Talk:Dominique Phinot

Composer project review

I've reviewed this article as part of the Composers project review of its B-class articles. This article is B-class; it could use a works listing, an image, and inline citations. My full review is on the comments page; questions or comments should be left here or on my talk page. Magic♪piano 22:07, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Executed for homosexuality?

I realise that the concept of 'homosexuality' is of recent creation, so I doubt that Dominique Phinot was 'executed for homosexuality' as claimed. He may have been executed for sodomy or some other charge. I am unable to access the reference to see the exact wording used in the source. Can anyone clarify? Cheers Fishiehelper2 (talk) 11:09, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

"Homosexual practices" is the wording Roger Jacob uses. You might want to consult the primary source -- it's Girolamo Cardano (Jerome Cardan), the Theonoston. It's in Latin, but someone may have translated it into English (I've never seen such a thing ... but it seems like someone would have by now). The Hyperion biography mentions it too. This is the same source from which we have the juicy bits about Nicolas Gombert, who was sent to the galleys for (allegedly) sodomizing his choirboys. Antandrus (talk) 12:58, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Fishiehelper2 (talk) 13:00, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

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==Composers Project Assessment of Dominique Phinot: 2009-02-14== This is an assessment of article Dominique Phinot by a member of the Composers project, according to its assessment criteria. This review was done by Magicpiano. If an article is well-cited, the reviewer is assuming that the article reflects reasonably current scholarship, and deficiencies in the historical record that are documented in a particular area will be appropriately scored. If insufficient inline citations are present, the reviewer will assume that deficiencies in that area may be cured, and that area may be scored down. Adherence to overall Wikipedia standards (WP:MOS, WP:WIAGA, WP:WIAFA) are the reviewer's opinion, and are not a substitute for the Wikipedia's processes for awarding Good Article or Featured Article status. ===Origins/family background/studies=== Does the article reflect what is known about the composer's background and childhood? If s/he received musical training as a child, who from, is the experience and nature of the early teachers' influences described? ok ===Early career=== Does the article indicate when s/he started composing, discuss early style, success/failure? Are other pedagogic and personal influences from this time on his/her music discussed? ok ===Mature career=== Does the article discuss his/her adult life and composition history? Are other pedagogic and personal influences from this time on his/her music discussed? ok ===List(s) of works=== Are lists of the composer's works in WP, linked from this article? If there are special catalogs (e.g. Köchel for Mozart, Hoboken for Haydn), are they used? If the composer has written more than 20-30 works, any exhaustive listing should be placed in a separate article. No complete list; works are counted. ===Critical appreciation=== Does the article discuss his/her style, reception by critics and the public (both during his/her life, and over time)? ok ===Illustrations and sound clips=== Does the article contain images of its subject, birthplace, gravesite or other memorials, important residences, manuscript pages, museums, etc? Does it contain samples of the composer's work (as composer and/or performer, if appropriate)? (Note that since many 20th-century works are copyrighted, it may not be possible to acquire more than brief fair use samples of those works, but efforts should be made to do so.) If an article is of high enough quality, do its images and media comply with image use policy and non-free content policy? (Adherence to these is needed for Good Article or Featured Article consideration, and is apparently a common reason for nominations being quick-failed.) no images or sound. ===References, sources and bibliography=== Does the article contain a suitable number of references? Does it contain sufficient inline citations? (For an article to pass Good Article nomination, every paragraph possibly excepting those in the lead, and every direct quotation, should have at least one footnote.) If appropriate, does it include Further Reading or Bibliography beyond the cited references? Article has references; few inline citations. ===Structure and compliance with WP:MOS=== Does the article comply with Wikipedia style and layout guidelines, especially WP:MOS, WP:LEAD, WP:LAYOUT, and possibly WP:SIZE? (Article length is not generally significant, although Featured Articles Candidates may be questioned for excessive length.) ok ===Things that may be necessary to pass a Good Article review=== Article requires more inline citations (WP:CITE) Article needs (more) images and/or other media (MOS:IMAGE) ===Summary=== This is a decent short bio about a poorly-documented figure. The works list could be enumerated, and it would benefit from a relevant image, and inline citations. Article is B-class. Magic♪piano 22:05, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

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