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English meaning

Declaring a potential WP:COI, my family hailed from Aberaeron (formerly officially anglicised as Aberayron). The name means "Mouth of the River Aeron). I therefore object to the removal of this valid and (to the vast majority of Wikipedia users who don't speak Welsh) helpful information. The explanation given by Xxglennxx ("no english lang. name") is no justification for the destructive edit. If the template is designed to convey nothing but a translation of the place name, then the preferred edit is surely to dispense with the template and use the wording "Aberaeron (meaning "Mouth of the River Aeron") is a seaside resort...", etc. Cheers, Bjenks (talk) 09:32, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, if there was any English meaning, it would be "Mouth of the Berry River," but names in Welsh aren't translated in speech, and a Wikipedia shouldn't by any different. It would be like me having a conversation and saying, "...and tomorrow, I'm going to the day fort (Cardiff, an Anglicisation of Caerdydd)." If we we are going to include anything, the full literal translation should be included. The fact that most of Wikipedia don't speak Welsh is irrelevant - you'll also see that we don't have transliteration for Llangefni (Church of Saint Cefni), Abercynon (Mouth (of the River) of Saint Cynon), Coed Darcy (Darcy's Wood), Château-d'Œx (Fort of the Oex), Düsseldorf (Village of Düssel) etc etc. -- Xxglennxx (talk • cont.) 21:42, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm. I s'pose you'll now commit to going through every Welsh placename, Aberdyfi, Aberystwyth, etc, etc to impose your personal interpretation on WP. What will you do with Lampeter? Please allow more discussion before charging on, eh? Cheers, Bjenks (talk) 02:24, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If I have to yes. In any sense, would you like to change Château-d'Œx to "Château-d'Œx (Template:Lang-en)..." or "Düsseldorf (Template:Lang-en)..."? No, I didn't think so. If there exists an official translation in English, or any other language for that matter, then I'd have no ground, but Aberaeron is Aberaeon in Welsh and English. As it stands, I've put a translation template on this article, explaining the meaning of Aberaeron. But it's not the same as saying that Aberaeron is referred to by English speakers as "Mouth of the Berry River." -- Xxglennxx (talk • cont.) 18:06, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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