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Market Power and Antitrust Responses

I'm planning on adding a section to this article, Market Power and Antitrust Responses focusing growth in IBMs market power leading into the 1956 Consent Decree and the many antitrust matters from 1968 thru 1984 and the impacts of those actions on the market and IBM. Any thoughts or comments? In particular, anyone strongly opposed to a new section on this subject? Tom94022 (talk) 18:41, 29 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No Mention of IBM's Only Female CEO

Shouldn't the History of IBM include mention of their female CEO and Chairperson from 2012 to 2020? She changed the course of the company to be more focused on intellectual property as a key resource of the corporation's revenue and profit streams, as well as downsizing the business of the firm. The same goes for the parent article, IBM, where she's effectively absent. Isn't it worth mentioning both her and Sam Palmisano, her predecessor? Between the two CEO's, they cover 20 years of IBM's activities in the 21st century. Stevenmitchell (talk) 12:20, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Stevenmitchell: rather than suggesting assignments for others to fulfill why don't u just do it, see WP:BOLD. Ginni_Rometty and Sam Palmisano already have Wikipedia pages so all you have to do is perhaps add links in the timeline of this article and elsewhere with more material as you see appropriate and consistent. Tom94022 (talk) 17:50, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Tom94022 Unfortunately, that is not how Wikipedia works, or at least in my 20 year experience with Wikipedia. The Wikipedia editors that control the article, control whether open edits can be made by other Wikipedians. It is not worth fighting over the addition of 1 or 2 sentences and references with the Wikipedians that control this article. That is why I put it out there on the Talk Page. Being Bold is only a theory, and has little to do with the actual realities of human behavior on Wikipedia. Stevenmitchell (talk) 22:49, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Steve, that is precisely how Wikipedia works in practice, see WP:OWN: No one "owns" content (including articles or any page at Wikipedia)." and that has been my experience in my 17+ years editing Wikipedia. Yes, there has been the occasional disagreement over an edit and most of those have been worked out either thru sequential edits and/or talk. I've never encountered a dispute over a factual addition such as you are proposing, so why not just do it instead of giving out an assignment for others to do? Tom94022 (talk) 18:09, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Tom94022 Thank you for your input on the theory of Wikipedia. Unfortunately, in my 20 years here, I have found that with certain articles, they are owned by people or cohorts who consider the articles to be their "babies." Just as an example, the Word Processing article on Wikipedia, refused to add a word processor that I had added, along with a reference from Microsoft's own website, that was popular in the NYC metro area (where probably a quarter of the US companies are based), simply because the 4/5 editors that control the article, had never heard of it. As it turned out, the editors were all from other parts of the underpopulated US, hence their lack of familiarity, and refused to permit its inclusion. So, hence to this day, the article remains incomplete. You may have noticed in your life experience that people in the real world, form cliques. That is equally a problem here on Wikipedia and regularly affects the quality of articles, and the information that is permitted to be added, particularly on long established articles. It's also the reason why Wikipedia should never be an academically acceptable reference material. When writing on a topic, it is a good first place to look for sources that may cover a topic, but can never reach the point of being authentically researched at a professional caliber, because of the personality issues endemic to a random, arbitrary, mob-managed encyclopedia. Unfortunately, Wikipedia doesn't even have the institutional mechanisms in an accessible fashion to address these concerns. So, I respectfully disagree with your conclusion. Stevenmitchell (talk) 22:04, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Steve in something as large as Wikipedia I am sure there are a few articles that operate in that manner but I see no evidence that in this article is one such, so why don't you just do it and see what happens. Tom94022 (talk) 05:00, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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