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Modern therianthropy and this article

Hi! I believs you have the definition of therianthropy wrong, so im going to politely and respectfully correct your errors

Therianthropy is the belief and identification as one or more non-human animal(s) weither this is spiritual or psychological. Therianthropy comes in many forms and vairies from person to person.

a Common misconception is that therianthropes physically identify as an animal, which is false. A physical identification as an animal is called lyncanthropy. (which there is already a page about) which is a mental illness.

Therianthropy is commonly refered to with the furry fandom, while there are some similarities between the communities, they are NOT the same.

Just wanted to clear things up

-Andromeda — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andromeda Wolf (talk • contribs) 07:27, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. As a therian myself I feel this is a very good connection and understanding of modern therian. As I feel the words In this site are to old and hard to understand. HandsomeGUMS (talk) 02:02, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The fact that a word can have multiple meanings does not make one of them "wrong", and our article is not "wrong" about the meaning we are covering. You are talking about a new psycho-subcultural sense (a neologism) of "therianthropy" and "therianthrope" to refer to 'a person who identifies pyschologically or spiritually as a non-human animal (refered to as the "theriotype" or "kintype")', to paraphrase a recent reverted edit that tried to change the article to be about this notion. If you believe this idea is encyclopedically notable, then it is possible that it should be covered here, or in a separate article. But this requires in-depth coverage in actually reliable sources that are completely independent of the subject (not written by self-proclaimed therianthropes). And the burden of proof is on you to provide this impeccable sourcing. Wikipedia is not a slang database of terms used within LARP, within furry/plushy and closely related subculture/kink, or within the confines of particular synchretic neo-pagan circles, which is where this other sense of "therianthropy" collectively comes from. There is something obviously performative about much of this, and very difficult to objectively separate from all the people who claim they are vampires including "pscyhological vampires", though that was more of a '90s subculture (started by Mind's Eye Theatre: The Masquerade and related LARP stuff).

When it wanders into claims like "psychologically identify", it also has a very strong undercurrent of pseudoscientific self-diagnosis, along the same lines as people who declare that they have several distinct personalities or "alts" but who do not actually pass any psychiatric tests for dissociative identity disorder (AKA multiple personality disorder). This is another extremely limited "identity subculture" trend that WP does not have any material about, and should not until it is covered extensively in indepdent reliable sources. Claims pertaining to psychology are going to be subject to the more stringent WP:MEDRS sourcing guidelines.

To the extent any of this is actually encyclopedic to cover at all, it probably is not in this article, or at best in a small section about it, but this really should probably be at Therianthropy (subculture).  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  04:30, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a reason this is not already covered by otherkin? GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 03:20, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ah! Didn't realize that article existed. Seems like exactly the place.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  14:29, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Cool, I'll merge this section over. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 15:59, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Semi-protected edit request on 14 February 2024

please include a section at the start of the article specifging that 'Therianthropy is the psychological connection to an animal and it is an identity.' 2A00:23C7:7009:8801:820C:F9FF:FE3E:7F16 (talk) 22:25, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: what you propose seems pretty different from what this article about, what you describe is basically any relationship a human has with an animal, also not sure how that is an identity Cannolis (talk) 23:39, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 10 May 2024

i would like permission to edit because some of the information is incorrect. Fern1234567890 (talk) 11:15, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Fern1234567890: If you post another protected edit request, this time saying exactly what change you think should be made to the article and why, someone can review your suggestion and decide whether to go ahead with it. The reason for protecting the article is that there is a history of new editors making unsuitable changes; it would defeat the purpose of protection if we were to just allow anyone to edit who just said they wish to. JBW (talk) 11:33, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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