Talk:Boeing 747-400

British Airways

The article says "British Airways has preserved five of its 747-400's following the fleet's retirement during the COVID-19 pandemic, although only four now remain". It then lists 4 preserved air frames but mentions the first one is (was?) scrapped. Does that man only 3 survive? Or that there is one missing from the detailed list and that 4 really survive (3 listed frames plus the unlisted frame) ?  Stepho  talk  05:58, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

I took some time to look into this. The only other British Airways 474-400 that I could find that was preserved, is the G-BYGA that was partically preserved and converted into an event space and flight simulator known as 'The Deck'. I added the information about this into the article. KittyHawkFlyer (talk) 21:12, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. It looks like G-BYGC was scrapped in August 2023 and the others preserved. Although I don't know if they have remained preserved.  Stepho  talk  01:21, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

I didn't see anything in my research saying that the other are no longer preserved. KittyHawkFlyer (talk) 23:47, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

G-BYGA was scrapped for parts in 2022. The only three BA 747-400s that are still preserved are as follows:

G-BYGC

G-BNLY

G-CIVB BuddyHeigh (talk) 15:22, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

New Image

Hello, I personally think the NWA livery looks worse than the United Airlines early 2000s livery. Replace it with a better UA livery! BuddyHeigh (talk) 20:25, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

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  Virgin
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  Lufthansa
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  Northwest
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  Transaero

We've been changing and reverting the lead image a lot in the last few days. I don't see that any are particularly better or worse than any other. Can we knock it off with the pissing contest and leave the damn things alone?  Stepho  talk  16:18, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

New Image

Will this Qantas Boeing 747-400ER image look better(Qantas was really a major operator of the Boeing 747-400)? Here is the image:- https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wunala_Dreaming_on_short_finals_at_London_Heathrow_Airport.jpg BuddyHeigh (talk) 16:02, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Wunala Dreaming - Qantas

In the 1990s when I was living in Hong Kong, Cathay Pacific were so proud of their new, bold, artistic, modern, brushstroke livery. Then Wunula Dreaming landed the next day - making the newspapers and totally blowing the wind out of their sails.

As much as I want to wave the Australian flag, the purpose of the lead image is to show the shape of the aircraft. Unfortunately, the Wunula dreaming paint job is so in-your-face that it distracts the reader from the shape of the aircraft. However, I would definitely agree to adding it as an extra image in the article.  Stepho  talk  23:02, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Ok Stepho-wrs, your proposal of not putting the Wunala Dreaming is correct, how about put the normal Qantas livery? This is going to make you proud of you country, right? This image is also quite high-resolution.

Here is the image:-

https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Qantas_Boeing_747-400ER_MEL_Nazarinia.jpg BuddyHeigh (talk) 14:07, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Qantas

Lufthansa

True, it appeals to us Aussies. But objectively, it is about equal with the existing Lufthansa image.  Stepho  talk  21:52, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

You told to add the Wunala Dreaming as an extra image, and so I did, but you changed it. There is no image gallery in this article, and you are telling me to add the image in an image gallery. Which image gallery did you mean? Please make it clear. BuddyHeigh (talk) 17:52, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Apologies, I was too hasting in removing that. Sometimes I overreact when there seem to be a lot of images added. I have restored that image.  Stepho  talk  23:09, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

New Infobox Image(Boeing 747-400M)

Does anyone want this new Air India(formerly Air Canada, currently Dubai Royal Air Wing) Boeing 747-400M image, does someone also realize that the existing Air China image shows only the back of the aircraft, not the front, but this new Air India shows the whole aircraft in detail. The Air India image also has some more colours than the Air China image. Flying AviaSome (talk) 15:36, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

It would help if you pointed out which image you are talking about. Look at how I showed thumbnail images in the sections above.  Stepho  talk  00:21, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Apologies for not providing the image!

Here is the image:

Air India

Air India Boeing 747-433M, with registration VT-AIM Flying AviaSome (talk) 09:35, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

I don't know how much you notice the cargo loading/unloading door, but if you zoom behind the flaps behind the right engine of the right wing, you notice the cargo loading/unloading door. Flying AviaSome (talk) 09:38, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

I changed your image to a thumbnail. And here is a thumbnail of the existing Air China image.

Air China

The Air India is a generally fine image. However, even after you told us where to look I cannot see, the cargo door. I doubt if a reader could see that without instructions.

I like the Air China image because it is from the rear. Almost every other image in the article is from the front. And the Air China image shows the rear door very clearly.  Stepho  talk  23:36, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

I hope you must have at least seen a line behind the right engine of the right wing, and that is the outline of the cargo door. I hope you will like an image of a B747-433M with the cargo door, and the whole aircraft. Flying AviaSome (talk) 09:32, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello @Stepho-wrs? Didn't you receive notification about my reply? Or did you stop editing aviation pages, and started focusing on automobile pages? Flying AviaSome (talk) 09:40, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

Oops, sorry for the delay, I got distracted.

I can now see the top hinge line of the cargo door - although the side and bottom edges still elude me. However, I still prefer the Air China image. The Air China door is far more obvious to the casual reader. And the image from the rear is more interesting in an article with many front and side images.  Stepho  talk  10:03, 15 July 2024 (UTC)