Talk:Caviar
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Do we really need 5 pictures of caviar on one page? The page isn't even that large, it looks very overpowering. I'm sure one or 2 images is all that is needed.
Miscelaneous
How about some mention of the milder caviar varieties eaten regularly on bread in Sweden, such as Kalles? --193.11.222.179 13:41, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
How about a mention of the current embargo on all trade of wild sturgeon caviar? 23:22, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
I once heard of one kind of caviar known as "Almas/Almaz" (not sure on the spelling) which comes from an albino sturgeon in the Caspian. Guinness world records 2007 said it is the most expensive in the world. Any more info?74.96.212.21 23:50, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
- I did add a short paragraph on this, from my reading of the article I found, the ban is temporary right now, with the understanding that it will be permanent unless the countries involved come up with a good reply. If you can find a clearer source, or more news comes out, feel free to update it. Cheers, MartinRe 22:59, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
I have heard that the Sterlet is not actually extinct, but the species exists only as two isolated populations in the Volga river and another river system. Can anyone gather more information as to the status of the Sterlet? 10:35, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
Hmmmm. 4 oz. of Beluga is $30 here in Azerbijan. It's not universally extremely expensive. Dobbs 17:29, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Caviar and vegetarianism
The article claims that caviar is not vegetarian but since non-vegan vegetarian's eat eggs, and caviar is fish eggs then I would think caviar in and of itself would be non-vegan vegetarian objections by vegetarian based on cruelty to the fish objections related to the most popular means of harvesting the eggs. I think the reason why it's not considered vegetarian should be mentioned. --Cab88 17:53, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
- Chickens aren't killed when their eggs are harvested, while sturgeons are.--66.32.233.224 12:06, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
- Interesting. Many who consider themselves vegetarians drink milk produced on a commerical scale. Such milk is only possible through continual breeding for beef (or even veal) production. Dainamo 15:00, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
- Making the best of a bad situation, I suppose. A lot of people who don't approve of unmarried sex still enjoy nonsimulated porn. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.122.208.51 (talk) 14:36, 8 January 2007 (UTC).
- Interesting. Many who consider themselves vegetarians drink milk produced on a commerical scale. Such milk is only possible through continual breeding for beef (or even veal) production. Dainamo 15:00, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
Caviar production in California
I changed "southern California" to "California". I live in CA state and most of our sturgeon farms is in Northern CA and not Southern CA. Stolt Sea Farm's sturgeon operation is by Sacramento [1]. White Sturgeon is also native here in CA, known as the Pacific sturgeon, Sacramento sturgeon, & California white sturgeon. -- Adeptitus 17:32, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Etymology of the word "caviar"
The article states:
The word "caviar" derives from the Persian word خاگآور (Khāg-āvar), meaning "the roe-generator".
However, I've seen other sources, including Merriam-Webster Online [2], trace the origin to the Turkish word havyar. It may be that havyar has a Farsi antecedent, or perhaps not.
The article refers to khag-avar, which it translates as "roe-generator"; but this source [3] also mentions the word chav-jar, which it translates to "cake of power" (ancient Persians used to eat it in stick form as a kind of elixir).
I am going to update the article to reflect these possible etymologies. Maybe someone more knowledgable about Farsi, Turkish and eastern languages can weigh in.
guanubian 19:48, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Caviar vs. Roe
I still lack to catch the exact diference between caviar and roe. Is the point in its color (black vs. other), cooking/salting or something else? --Koryakov Yuri 22:51, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Yes, the processing makes it Caviar. AFAIK, Roe is a generic term for the eggs of any fish. chavo 14:19, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Odd Statement RE: Prohibition
The article states: "During the Prohibition, caviar were smuggled in special cases shaped to fit in boots to aid the smuggling." I cannot find any mention of Caviar being banned during prohibition. I think that statement needs a citation. chavo 14:16, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Cost
Why is caviar so expensive?
Caviar in 1800's America
On the radio (NPR?) it said that caviar from 1800's American fishing grounds was so cheap and plentiful that it was served for free in coastal bars like peanuts are today. Can anyone verify this statement? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Septagram (talk • contribs) 03:13, 30 March 2007 (UTC).
Caviar Pizza
Fresh Caviar Pizza?
Yes, you too can now feast on this specialty gourmet food for over $1,000.00 USD for a whole pizza in a New York restaurant.
Too high for your budget? You want to give it a try and see what all the buzz is about?
Now you can make your own caviar pizza at home within a fraction of the price!
Simply mail order some premium black caviar and red caviar online at [4] and top your pizza and enjoy. Gourmet food with prefferances customized by you! Mix up the flavor with a wide selection of caviar. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.231.144.243 (talk) 07:31, 18 April 2007 (UTC).
Image
Hello people! This article urgently needs a good image of proper Caviar (that is Caspian Sturgeon Roe)! The Ogre 10:24, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
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