Talk:Chris Young (pitcher)

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Chris Young (pitcher) has been listed as one of the good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
May 6, 2007	Good article nominee	Listed
May 22, 2007	Peer review	Reviewed
July 4, 2007	Peer review	Reviewed

Current status: Good article

GA on hold

I have reviewed this article according to GA criteria. There are a few things that should be fixed before I pass the article.

Add a hyphen to "right handed" in the intro. There should probably be another one in "two sport". Done17:10, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
Is there any early life history that could be added to the article? Example: where he was born, who his parents were, high school he went to, siblings, etc.
I have included where he was born, his wife and am not yet able to determine if the "Highland High School" in Dallas that he attended was Lake Highlands High School. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 19:55, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Write out 3 years in the affiliations section. Done17:10, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
"Then just prior to the 2004 season the Expos traded him to the Texas Rangers where he debuted late in 2004" Remove "then just". Done17:10, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
The Collegiate Career section needs to be moved in front of the affiliations section to be in chronological order. Done17:10, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
"5 2/3 IP, 4 H, 4 SO, 3 BB, 3 ER performance" Add wikilinks for the various initials here for people who may not know what they stand for. Done17:10, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
"In November 2006, he traveled to Japan to take part in the Major League Baseball Japan All-Star Series." Elaborate on this sentence or incorporate it into another sentence. Individual sentences shouldn't stand alone. Done 21:07, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
In the 2007 Season section, combine some of the sentences in the first paragraph, they sound choppy when reading them. Done TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 21:27, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think "inked" should be used. Signed should be fine. Done17:10, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
Rename the trivia section, to something else such as "Height". Done17:10, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
If you can, add a table about his current career stats. You can see an example at Ty Cobb#Regular season stats. Done TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 21:59, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Altogether, these shouldn't take too long to fix at all. I am going to leave the article on hold for seven days and will fail it if the above issues aren't addressed. When you are done or if you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. --Nehrams2020 03:55, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree

1.) Well written? No, poor read, broken up paragraphs that uses alot of baseball terminology, lack depth of information apart from baseball facts included. Over use of links Home run is link at least 3 times .Difficult to follow players progress

2.) factually accurate? The references look good with most statements having a citation.

3.) broad in its coverage? No, contains general baseball details not enough personal information

4.) neutral point of view? Yes

5.) stable? Yes

6.) contains images? Yes.

This for me is a fail (Gnevin 09:01, 2 May 2007 (UTC))[reply]

A few more things

There are just a few more things that need to be fixed before I pass it. The first sentence in the 2007 season section sounds redundant with "surrendered a home run" used twice, please reword the sentence. Also, some of the headings need to be lower-cased according to the WP:Manual of Style. The last thing that should be taken care of is the table. It's good that you added it but it would look better if it was properly formatted. In response to the above fail review, I think you have fixed most of the issues by expanding the article by allowing it to become more broad and providing wikilinks for the baseball terminology. Again, let me know when these are done and I'll get back to you faster than this time. --Nehrams2020 22:11, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"The first sentence in the 2007 season section sounds redundant with "surrendered a home run" used twice, please reword the sentence."

Done 14:42, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

"Also, some of the headings need to be lower-cased according to the WP:Manual of Style."

Done 14:42, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

"It's good that you added it but it would look better if it was properly formatted."

Done 18:32, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

GA passed

Good job on addressing the above issues so quickly. I have passed this article according to the GA criteria. Continue to expand the article with sourced information, making sure to keep the stable. If you get the chance, consider reviewing an article or two at GAC to help with the backlog. There are a lot of articles to choose from. --Nehrams2020 19:39, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Last Princeton hit/home run

Since Bob Tufts failed to get a hit in his only at bat it is unclear who was the last Princeton player to record a hit prior to Young in a major league game. Also, since Young has neither homered nor stolen a base, it is of interest and import to determin who is the last Princeton player to do either. Neither Tufts nor Dave Sisler accomplished either feat. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 06:17, 8 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, from Baseball-Reference, it looks like Dave Sisler was the last Princeton alum to get a hit in a MLB game before Chris Young. The last player from Princeton to steal a base and hit a home run is Moe Berg (whose article is written quite nicely, might I add). Nishkid64 (talk) 18:53, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pic needed

I got as many pics as I could of Young during his visit here to Chicago, but since he was ejected in the top of the 4th my selection is limited. We could use better pics of him batting and in the on deck circle. Also, since we are on a stolen base watch we should get a picture of him leading off of first or running between first and second. TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 15:05, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Possible reversion war discussion

I am fearful of my first WP:3R case. Please see user page discussions especially at User_talk:Ksy92003#Chris_Young before blocking any user.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 20:24, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Holy guacamole

I'm tempted to de-list the GA status on the article because it seems like every other word is linked. I'm not going to de-list it (however if there is extensive debate over editing, the article should not be GA) but if someone is going to copy-edit this, can they please; A: remove links on stand-alone years B: only link something once C:only link to what pertains to the article, to what helps the reader. I cannot do this, but if someone is copy-editing this, please look into that.++aviper2k7++ 21:13, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

And we don't need seven paragraphs to describe his 2007 season (which is midway through). If an account of every single game is added, this article would be like a telephone book.++aviper2k7++ 21:17, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Recent major changes to Chris Young

I've noticed there are huge reverts going back and forth on this article.

A couple of notes:

1. In the current state (the state with 115+ references) , there is WAY too much minutia about the individual seasons. Especially in the 2007 season, where we DON'T need an entry and link to a boxscore each time Young pitches. If someone wants to see how he did in each and every start, they are welcome to visit his gamelogs on ESPN.com or MLB.com. If the article continues in it's current state, it is going to become huge & unweildy, bogged down by individual game recaps.

2. Again, in the current state, there's no reason for all of those pictures, especially since a lot of them are very similar. If they were different, or each added something to the article, it would be another story.

Just my thoughts from the outside. Bjewiki 21:33, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A good idea would be to upload the images (if not already) to Wikipedia Commons and link to the Commons page. Gallery's aren't meant for Wikipedia.++aviper2k7++ 21:40, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Little details

When reading this article, do I have to read every single little detail about every little game? I'm going to work on shortening that, hopefully soon. Hornberry 03:53, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Most likely, you won't be able to; TonyTheTiger will probably revert you. Trust me.

By the way, I am not Ksy92003, but I am acting for him. I am a friend of his. Currently, he is not in a condition where he would be able to edit any article on Wikipedia. He asked me to take his place until he is able to return, answering any questions in any of his active disputes. If there are any issues with any of the edits that I make for him, discuss them with me, not him. Additionally, if there are any issues with any of the edits that he has made, discuss them with me, and I will pass them on to him when available. 4.232.174.77 06:05, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I (Palmdoc) deleted the recent incident with Derek Lee in Chicago as it is not really an important historical point in baseball. CY is serving the suspension - the inclusion of this incident in Wikipedia is minutia.