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Hello Everyone Welcome to my talk page. Feel free to make any comments you like. I like to hear complaints as well as positive comments. Remember, we're all in this together to make Wikipedia an excellent information source. Thanks. Truthanado 01:00, 2007 Mar 23 (UTC)

Please add your messages below Add your message after the bottom message and start it with a section heading. Please sign your message with ~~~~ and let me know the article you're commenting on. I check this page every few days (sometimes more often) and will normally reply to your talk page.

Its already been redirected to the existing article, which is the right thing to do. This way other people searching for the article under the name Union Switch and Signal will find it. Best, Gwernol 15:55, 24 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Response to Recent Aida (musical) mods

The list of high school productions was removed because consensus was recently reached regarding the inclusion of high-school/community theatre (ie non-official performances) - it was agreed that high schools and community theatre groups should not be listed on the Aida page, as they have no official association with the proper musical, other than that they have paid license fees to perform the show.

If my edits accidentally removed official productions, my apologies. Otherwise, the removal of high-school musicals from this article is justified in my opinion :)

Chrisch 11:49, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Repsonse to Keswick Christian School

I have not completed my entry and neither is this written like an advertisement. I do not know how to remove your box, but would you please take it off or tell me how? An encyclopedic entry can contain an opening that is a direct quote as it weaves together a historic narrative account. I am merely citing history here, and if I can get the link to work you'd see where it came from. Having a tough time with the ref. mark for some reason. Thanks. --Wordy1 04:26, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

See my response on your "talk" page Truthanado 01:22, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your response. That box was actually borrowed from another Wikipage. I realized after borrowing it that the infobox tag existed. I'll know better next time.
I did use preview quite a bit but was afraid, after a while, it would get lost, as sometimes browsers crash.
I have one question for you regarding citation, and I wonder if you can help me: Some of the material I would like to include in my entry is from a newspaper article found in a subscription database, Lexis Nexis. Unfortunately, it does not appear for free on the Web. I understand Wikipedia's preference for open access information, but I would like to include this with the proper citation. Do you know if Wikipedia has a citational style for citing a full-text article from a subscription database. I am familiar with the MLA and APA styles found on this page, but don't know about style with Wikipedia.
Any ideas?
I'm not sure what the preferred citation method would be. I have seen several articles just include the reference as plain text (no link), such as "New York Times April 1, 2007". Maybe you can ask the question at the Wikipedia:Help desk. A comment about browsers. Without advocating a specific product, I have had excellent results (and no crashes) using Mozilla Firefox, and I know many others use it; can't say the same about Internet Explorer. Firefox is a free download ... just google it. Truthanado 01:49, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Good to meet a fellow "Firefoxer." Used it for a couple years now. Lots better than all the others. I was having more problems with my server I think than the actual browser. Thanks for the tip on the help desk. --Wordy1 01:56, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

Thanks for giving me a simple definition of minor, major in Wiki edits. I will conform to policy now that I know it. Until now, my general practice was to save edits regularly, so there is a sequence of smallish steps. I did not think these were considered worthy of "major" status. I will retain the same practice, but default to "major" edit (saves me a key stroke each time). Good for Wiki, good for me. Have a nice day, and thanks heaps for patroling! Alastair Haines 06:33, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reminder

It has been more than one week since your message on Aida (musical). Chrisch 14:01, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Second Avenue Subway

The tables in that part of the article are talking about the services. Unless work is done south of 63rd Street, there will be no T service, and it is misleading to say that construction has begun on the T. --NE2 23:35, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I montioned it in the introduction. I think it's important enough to mention there, but feel free to move it elsewhere if you disagree. --NE2 23:46, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Break needed

Hey, the break is needed. It's not part of a bulleted list; it's separating templates that have glommed together, but shouldn't have. Once I come out with a new version of the UCLA template (the current one is temporary), it probably won't need the break anymore. If you wouldn't mind, could you please "undo" your undo? Thanks. --Dynaflow 18:47, 28 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, I guess I'll do it then. --Dynaflow 19:09, 28 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Do you really consider this page to be blatant advertising? The lottery exists and is surely notable, and I don't see any promotional tone in this stub. DES (talk) 01:43, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it does need lots of work. There is no "lottery-stub", the closeset seems to be {{gambling-stub}}. You can find all approved stub tags at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Stub types. The creator of Maine Lottery seems to have created stubs on lots of state lotterys in the last few days. DES (talk) 05:51, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

New York school stub problems

Fixed. The template had been vandalized. Thanks for letting me know. DES (talk) 07:02, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The WikiProject Systems and the systems engineering article

Hello, I have seen that you made some significatant improvement on the INCOSE article. Nice work, thank you. With the WikiProject Systems we started two weeks ago, and are now getting started with a discussion about improving the systems engineering article. I was wondering if you might be interested in giving you opinion on that article on the talk page and maybe you have some ideas how this article could be improved. Ideas from your side will be very welcome. Thank you - Mdd 23:06, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's my pleasure to review and comment on this article. Thanks for asking. I have added some thoughts to the talk page. Best of luck with the project. I'm going to be pretty busy over the next month or so and I don't know how much Wiki-time I will be spending. I look forward to your work. Truthanado 23:55, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for your contribution to the discussion. They are certainly more then just Some random thoughts. We are going to try to get some more first impressions before we proceed. Any suggestions here are welcome.
Beside that, I made a start with a Category:Systems engineer and some reconstruction in the List of systems engineers. I guess this is counterpart of systems engineering also worth working at. I however don't know how to proceed here? How to select more systems engineers? My question is if you could take a look at that list also and give me some more of your random thoughts? - Mdd 00:06, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You've made a nice start at a list of Systems Engineers. If you go to the INCOSE web site and select About INCOSE / Hall of Leaders, you should be able to add to the list. The INCOSE site should also have other info that might be of use. Truthanado 04:00, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for these directions. I used that information to update the list. - Mdd 10:10, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion about SE has been moved to the new WikiProject Systems Engineering Initiative talkpage. On those pages all discussion around System Engineering are brough together. Things proceed slowly, but we keep working on it. Regards - Mdd 15:18, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hey there, did you add the external links at the Keswick Christian School entry? If so, you beat me to the punch on that. Thanks for taking care of it and for cleaing up the alumni. I've been swamped with deadlines and other work and haven't had time to "play" on Wikipedia much. Wordy1 03:04, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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I've added a brief description of the mechanical system. To read about an actual installation that is still in use, see the Pass of Brander Stone Signals article, which I wrote. Signalhead 17:28, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Baseball statistics

Truthanado, I hated to revert your new section, since it was clear that your edit was a good faith attempt to improve the article. My understanding of the WP:NOR policy is that editors can gather verifiable facts from primary sources (such as player statistics), but are not allowed to draw new conclusions from the facts. For example, it would be acceptable to look at the data on league leaders and say something like, "From 1945 to 2006, the average number of home runs hit by the league leaders was xx." Anyone interested in verifying that statement could go to the source and verify it. But I can't look at the source you gave and verify a statement like "hitting 30 home runs is good." If someone disagreed and said, "no, I think hitting 20 home runs qualifies as good," and someone else says, "no, 30 home runs isn't that good--40 is good," the source you gave wouldn't be able to verify one statement rather than another--it provides raw information, but doesn't indicate what the standard is. You looked at it and reached your own conclusion, but that doesn't work for an encyclopedia. To say something is good in Wikipedia, you have to be able to cite verifiable sources that have said it is good.

I think there are some sources that make those kinds of statements, and I'll try to look around to see if I can find some. But, especially for a word that involves judgment, like "good," I think Wikipedia requires that you be able to cite a source that actually says it; it can't just be your personal interpretation of the data. I hope this helps. BRMo 05:23, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the input and the discussion. I have created a new "Good statistics" section that does not involve original research. For now, it just has some typical Batting statistics in it. I will wait a week or so to see what comments the Wikipedia community has on this. Then, if all is okay, I will expand it to include pitching statistics. Truthanado 19:32, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
I have updated the "Good statistics" section again, simplifying the data so that it shows summaries for the past 7 seasons, not each year in detail, and adding pitching statistics. Truthanado 00:59, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The revised table looks good. Thanks. BRMo 04:10, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rat Bastard Protective Association

Thank you for your Rat bastard protective association comments, edits and suggestions! --Art4em 02:42, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Thedeadmanandphenom

Thedeadmanandphenom 02:00, 24 June 2007 (UTC) You are totally right! Anyway, my article wasn't so great. Hey, so how do you put pictures in your article. I'm just an apprentice![reply]

The articel had been deleted under WP:CSD#A7 and recreated twice. It was lsited for Proposed deletion, but since there is obviously some dispute over the matter, I have nominated it on Articles for deletion. You might want to comment, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sara Calaway. I hope that this information is helpful to you. DES (talk) 19:56, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Before your edit, the page read "The "Order" column indicates the sequence in which the players first reached number 1." This makes it clear that the numbers in the column indicate the order of those golfers' rise to the number 1 position. Since there was a sentence already dedicated to clarifying the column's meaning, I felt that it did not merit an additional explanation.

Moreover, your additional "clarification" was "For example, Bernard Langer was the first golfer to be ranked number 1, Greg Norman was the third number 1 ranked player." That is not a complete sentence and is written in a colloquial tone. In any case, I appreciate the effort to clarify the meaning, but I feel it is rather clear from the description above. Cheers. Supertigerman 21:30, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mayor vs Supervisor in Geobox

Truthanado, I've posted an answer to your question on both my talk page and at Wikipedia:Requested templates#Mayor vs Supervisor in Geobox Settlement. In short, the left column tags can be changed, see my response for the coding to do so. If you have other questions, please ask. VerruckteDan 15:29, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

At VerruckteDan's request I have made a New York locator map to add to the Geobox Settlement boxes in New York. Hope this helps, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 04:23, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Truthanado, I will create a calibrated NY map today and place it on the Pittsford (town), New York article so you can see how it works. VerruckteDan 18:29, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, I'm gonna delay this action. I noticed on the map that Staten Island is colored as part of NJ and Manhattan is colored as water. I've asked Ruhrfisch to correct this. Once the changes are made, I'll make the edits to Pittsford. VerruckteDan 02:10, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I made the changes and a few others, so Dan can calibrate the map. Sorry for any errors. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 03:03, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, I've added the new map to the Geobox. The calibration made still need some fine tuning, since you're more familiar with the location, let me know if it looks to be correctly located. VerruckteDan 23:26, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This is great. Thank you very much. The location is fine for Pittsford (town). I also added the map to Pittsford (village) and Victor (town) and they look fine too. Again. many thanks. Truthanado 23:43, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I just made a nav template for Template:Monroe County, New York in line with other NY counties VerruckteDan 00:13, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You're too good ... and very fast. I'm much slower adding the geoboxes, but I will get to all of the towns, villages and CDPs in Monroe County eventually. Thanks for doing this. Truthanado 00:38, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh trust me, the Geoboxes take me some time too. I did the whole state of Louisiana....now there was a task. Luckily, Louisiana does not have nearly as many incorporated places as NY.
A quick question, on Brockport, New York you put census-designtaed place as the category parameter, would Village make more sense? VerruckteDan 00:40, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yep. you're right. I have CDP for towns and villages. That's what I get for copying a geobox and blindly using it. I'll fix the damage I've done. Truthanado 00:45, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
No problem, cut and paste makes the Geobox process much faster and mistakes happen sometimes. Hope I don't feel like Big Brother watching you, I've just returned from a mini Wiki-break and am editing in overdrive right now. VerruckteDan 00:47, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I appreciate the help and guidance. Welcome back. Truthanado 00:49, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I hope I'm not coming off as nitpicky, but you started entering municipal names just as the town instead of "Town of ..." Despite the category link right under the name, I think it's better to have the full "Town of..." or "Village of..." as it maintains a consistent standard that is used on any Geobox I've seen, whether in Pennsylvania, Illinois, Louisiana, etc. What are your thoughts on this? VerruckteDan 03:51, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

TOC

Thanks for your edits to cancer bacteria. Just so you know, if there are not enough sections, the TOC does not appear unless forced by the TOC tag. --Una Smith 02:00, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. In List of school districts in New York you added a Norther Region entry. Given that you previously restructured the list of k-12 school districts to comply with SED's Higher Education (college) organization (which I still don't understand why it was used), what are you looking to have placed in the Northern Region entry?

Thanks

--Igoldste 11:35, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The simple answer is that the Northern Region should contain school districts in Franklin, Jefferson, Lewis, St. Lawrence counties, as defined in the NYSED Higher Education Planning Regions. However, I am beginning to understand that it is not that simple. A little history, if I may.
When I restructured the list in April 2007, I used the Higher Education Planning Regions (HEPR) because it was the only verifiable breakdown I could find at NYSED (I couldn't find the JMT breakdown you suggested on the article's discussion page). In hindsight, that may have been a mistake, because (as you correctly point out) that breakdown refers to colleges and universities, not elementary and secondary education that school districts deal with. Also, school districts often cover multiple counties, yet the HEPR uses county boundaries.
As further confusion, the List of high schools in New York article is arranged by counties, which doesn't fit well with either the HEPR or JMT grouping. However, if we consider the main user of that article, grouping high schools by county is logical. That's probably how someone would look for a specific high school.
I have done some further research and found info about the Joint Management Team (JMT) areas at NYSED, see [1].
Perhaps it's time to rethink the HEPR breakdown and change it to something more in-line with what the school districts use themselves, the JMT grouping. Let me suggest that we restructure the article to use the JMT BOCES regions you suggested. Either of us could do that, or we could collaborate and share the workload. It would also help the article if we added a reference to the JMT (Joint Management Team), like the one above (or similar). What do you think? I'm all in favor of making Wikipedia better, and it seems to me that restructuring to JMT will do just that.
FYI, the List of BOCES article has been updated to correctly link to all BOCES in New York. That would help identify which school district goes in what region. When we restructure, maybe we should subdivide into BOCES regions too?
See my sandbox for a start of what the restructured article would look like. Comments welcome.
-- Truthanado 18:34, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have dealt with the amtter. A simple move, leavign a redirect, is all that was needed. One could use "what links here" to correct the old links to bypass the redir, but since there are no double redirs there is no need to do this. DES (talk) 03:08, 11 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Greg Gall

Agreed. I didn't notice it had been around for so long. Thanks for letting me know. Miremare 20:22, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Titanic and ibdb

For some reason, the cast list on ibdb for Titanic has two different names for Edith Corse Evans. The one I used in the list was the one also listed on the cast album. I'm not sure who was actually there for opening night, so if you have some other means of finding out, go crazy.... —  MusicMaker5376 06:20, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Old Bridge High School

Old Bridge High School is located in Old Bridge Township on Rt 516. Its mailing address and zip code are Matawan but is it physically located in Old Bridge. I live in Old Bridge, my children graduated from the high school.

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Thomaskorp"

RFD Route Map

I made it as of December 2007 because that's when the latest route (RFD-FLL) starts...I don't see why its a problem. It's not correct if I put if as of August 2007 b/c Allegiant doesn't fly RFD-AZA or RFD-FLL yet. Contact me if you have any questions. Sox23 00:34, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No problem- I made the domestic route map: As of December 14, 2007, and the int'l route map: As of August 2007. It that okay or do you want me to have them both as of December 2007? Sox23 00:38, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Vistas High School

The article has been renamed correctly as Vistas High School Program. There is a discussion on a possible merge to its parent article at Klein ISD Merge. Your input is welcome. – Dreadstar 22:47, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

St Lawrence County Map question

File:Map of New York highlighting Saint Lawrence County.svg

The map that matches the others is there on Commons, just under a slightly different version of the name: Image:Map of New York highlighting Saint Lawrence County.svg. Because the map link is automatically generated based on the name in both the county article and the list of counties, it links to the differently formatted and named map (Image:Map of New York highlighting St. Lawrence County.svg). I will see if I can move the map on Commons (actually save it and reupload it under the correct name), but it may take me twelve hours or so. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 17:49, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The "correct" version is now under both names on Commons and came up here on both the List and the county article (you may have to WP:BYC). Thnaks for the heads up, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 22:42, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Thank you fixing that spelling mistake on buck tick album 29. It happened because I was so busy fixing the major mistakes someone else made. -Minamoto1989

Run (baseball)

Your point's well taken; I'll restore the phrase about three outs. Best, Dan—DCGeist 22:52, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Also see Talk:Portable Network Graphics for the same contribution by him; it's obvious that he's spamming, and he just created an article (two versions, at Jerry Ropero‎ and Jerry ropero) that didn't make sense. Nate 20:53, 3 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I will do that, though I know since it's a default file name a new image will pop up later on. Thanks for understanding. Nate 21:05, 3 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Surnames that begin with "Mc" are supposed to be default sorted as "Mac" for auditing/counting purposes. I have not changed his surname and it still appears as "McGoldrick" - not "MacGoldrick" - if you check the categories. Yours,

Ontheveldt 13:35, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]