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Merges and redirects

Gummi Bear has been merged with Gummy bear and Disney's Adventures of the Gummi Bears. Averell 09:47, 11 Oct 2003 (UTC) w]p4otr, gy;swejfl gs;ldf gjs ';dfgga

a sd fad f af as dsf could start by discussing the nature of the material and THEN get into shapes, brands, etc. --Digitalgadget 04:40, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure about this edit

How does everyone else feel about this edit? Whilst not exactly POV, it somehow doesn't come across as being quite right in terms of its tone and viewpoint. I haven't removed it, as I'd rather hear what others think first. Fourohfour 19:37, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's great! ;) j/k if you don't like the tone feel free to edit it, but the information is relevant so don't delete. Justforasecond 23:56, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'd be more comfortable doing that if I could put my finger *exactly* on where I'm not happy with it. I'll probably leave it just now. Fourohfour 20:17, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
How about a source for verification that the gelatin in Gummi Bears contain prions, or that gelatin in general may contain prions? Just wondering. Ecophreek 05:14, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
added citation requests to body as everything I found states otherwise
[Asian Food Information center] Gelatin – Not only is gelatin derived from cattle hides and skin, which are considered low risk tissues for BSE transmission, but the manufacturing process for gelatin involves intense processing, which further reduces any BSE risk for humans to negligible levels. Also, as a further precaution, gelatin manufacturers have been advised against using bones and hides from cattle with any neurological disease and the heads, spines, and spinal cords of cattle from BSE countries. Worldwide, authorities have therefore continually attested to the safety of gelatin. It continues to maintain its 'Generally Recognised as Safe' status within the US. The Scientific Steering Committee of the Health and Consumer Protection Directorate-General in the European Commission states that with appropriate sourcing of raw materials and using appropriate production processes, the BSE risk level of gelatin is close to zero. Hence gelatin can be safely used in food products, pharmaceuticals, dietary supplements, cosmetics and other industrial applications. also ...
[FDA]Guidance on Gelatin - In 1994, representatives of the gelatin industry presented preliminary data to FDA staff concerning an experimental study of the infectivity of TSE-infected tissue that had undergone one of two processes (lime or acid) used to make gelatin. Based on these data, FDA decided not to include gelatin as part of its recommendations concerning other bovine ingredients in FDA-regulated products. A notice in the Federal Register of August 29, 1994, summarized FDA's recommendations to reduce any potential BSE risk and clarified that FDA's recommendations at that time did not extend to gelatin for human use produced from bovine materials from BSE countries... Ecophreek 00:32, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
If manufacturerd using just skin then gelatin is probably OK. But some gelatin is made with something other than skin, and skin and bones both have neural tissue, though only small amounts of it. I wouldn't want to eat gelatin made from a cow with BSE. The first google hit to "gelatin prion" says "Gelatin Without BSE-Infectivity can Only be produced From healthy animals" [1] also see the gelatin article Gelatin#Safety_concerns Justforasecond 01:07, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The very site Gelatin#Safety_concerns referenced is the same site I referenced. Further down the page of the reference it gives the recommendations made to manufacturers of gelatin containing items.

The following sites all have articles stating the safety of gelatin with regards to prions if manufacturers follow guidelines:

Further the first hit on google is a mad-cow watchgroup, that collects information from various sources to disseminate to the public, it is a clearing-house of information (if you will), like wikipedia is. Not that it is a bad thing but I think the original documentation needs to be found and sourced in order to lend credibility to the inclusion of this information in the article. If the FDA (not that they're always right) says gelatin is safe if recommendations are followed then I think the section should be annotaded with this information (with sourcing). Ecophreek 03:17, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds reasonable to me -- let's put both in here. Justforasecond 15:01, 19 April 2006 (UTC)fgsdfgsfan article itself yet. → ΣcoPhreekΔ 16:16, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Just give it a try. Use facts and cite them as much as possible, try to follow the wikipedia "neutral point of view" WP:NPOV policy, etc. This is a pretty apolitical article so I wouldn't worry about not doing it the right way. You could do something similar to "There has been some concern that gelatin may harbor the infectious agent responsible for BSE ('mad cow' disease). Based on studies xxxxxx, the United States FDA considers the risk of BSE transmission through gelatin to be relatively small." with citations in the right locations. Justforasecond 00:07, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Okay done, hope it reads and flows well. → ΣcoPhreekΔ 21:37, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Gummi bears!

Why is this article spelled Gummy bears? I always thought it was spelled gummi bears, like in german, since they ARE german

yes and made by TROLL-i -Justforasecond 16:33, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
absolutely wrong! made by haribo... --129.13.72.153 19:43, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In Restraunts

I removed this part of the article which read: At the end of a meal at Michaelangelo's Restaurant Cafe in San Francisco, guests are treated to a novel albeit unsanitary treat—a communal bowl of gummy bears. I didn't find what one resteraunt does to be all that encyclapedic so I deleted it, and put the page on my watchlist, the next day I come back to find that the section is back, personally I don't find this to be encyclapedic maybe if the trend caught on and Gummy Bears were served at a large number of restraunts it might but right now, one resteraunt is not encyclapedic. I removed it again, this time hoping that the author of the section this time understands my reasoning. Deathawk 19:30, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

They are served at at least one other restaraunt in S.F. but I don't know about the rest of the world. Gummy bears are also featured at Coldstone's but I guess that isn't so surprising. I guess if we had more gummy bear content aching to get on this page and we needed to make sense we could remove the reference, but I think its notable....sorta like the reference to Ferris Bueller's :). The Simpson's episode probably deserves mention [2] Justforasecond 00:39, 11 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
in germany, it is usual to serve gummy bears after or with the meal... so it is common i think and the special note on that frisco restaurant can be deleted --129.13.72.153 19:48, 7 September 2006 (UTC) (user's name in german wiki: cinor)[reply]

Another Gummy Bear Image

What do you all think of the use of Image:Gb1b.jpg instead of the current top picture with the plate? ~Linuxerist L / T 20:46, 11 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Go for it! Do you have a higher res version? Justforasecond 21:10, 11 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It's not mine, I just think it would suit the article better than the plate image. ~LinuxeristFile:Tux-linux logo.svg E/L/T 11:38, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

On screen

The whole section on Disney's Gummy Bears is covered under the article [Adventures of the Gummi Bears], is there any reason it has to be repeated here? To me it throws off the flow of this article and is clumsy. Could we not just mention the series and provide the link? →ΣcoPhreekΔ 15:58, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Justforasecond 17:06, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

More info

For an English class, I did a research paper on Gummi Candies, so I thought I would share it with you.

Here goes: The Romance of Gelatin and Sugar

If you have ever wondered, while staring into the clear eyes of your tasty and extraordinary confection, you are not alone. One day, as I sat pondering on the meaning of life and other weightier matters, this idea dawned upon me. Who, when, where, and how did such excellence as the gummi bear (or just gummi candy in general) arise? I asked myself. So now, throughout the course of this paper, you will learn all about their invention, how they came to the United States, their involvement in films and on television, variations on gummi candies since the gummi bear, and how they sell (and how to sell them) in the American market. And if you don’t especially care at all about gummis, maybe along the way you’ll learn to like ‘em.

It all began in the German town of Bonn in the year 1922. Hans Riegel, the owner of a (then) small candy business, Haribo, came up with a most excellent idea (Bellis). For some time he had been noticing the popularity of teddy bears and dancing circus bears and so doing (Haribo), he had thought long and hard about making his own “Dancing Bear” or “Tanzbär” (Hunisch). So, he came up with a recipe to make his bears actually dance! And thus, the gummi bear, the first of all gummi candies, was born (Bellis).

Since Hans invented them, he and his wife Gertrud were the only people in the world to make gummi bears at that time. To make sure that everyone (at least in Germany) could try and buy them, Hans would make a daily output of about 100 kilograms (approx. 250 lbs.) of gummi bears every day (that’s a lot!) and Gertrud would pedal around on her bike delivering and selling their tasty bears at fairs and kiosks. They were sold for only one pfennig (penny) for 2 bears (Hunisch). Within only one year, they were a huge hit throughout all of Germany!

All this time, while these Germans were enjoying feasting upon those tasty, tasty Haribo gummi bears, all us people here in the United States of America were totally missing out! Gummi bears were invented in 1922, but the very first gummi bears to be made in America weren’t made until 1981 by what is now the Jelly Belly Candy Company. Not until 1982 were gummis readily available to everyone in the United States, though a lucky few did get them before that by visiting Germany themselves (NCA).

Nowadays, though, gummi bears as well as hundreds of other shapes, colors, flavors of gummi candies are manufactured in the United States as well as in Europe and Germany. If you pay attention, you’ll be able to tell some differences between American made gummis and the European made types. American gummis tend to have a softer texture softer with stronger flavor and brighter colors as opposed to the European gummis having a “more firm, more consistent gummi which has a longer chew”(Young 52). A lot of people don’t notice the difference, but those of us with more refined tastes can choose which nationality of gummi candy we prefer. Although Germany and most of Europe has an extremely dominant brand (Haribo), the United States really doesn’t have an extremely dominant brand (Young 52). I personally favor the German brand, Haribo, the original makers of gummi bears.

Within the last 30 or so years, gummi bears have also had their time in movies and on television. In the film, Ferris Bueller’s Day Off, Polly Noonan, a student, says to her principal, Mr. Rooney, “Want a gummi bear? They’ve been in my pocket all day; they’re real warm and soft.” Though that is kind of gross, it is pretty cool that those gummi bears were movie stars! Also, in the 2001 film Hedwig and the Angry Inch, American gummi bears were used to represent power (“Gummi Bear”). Gummi bears also happen to be one of the only, if not the only candy that has had a cartoon based on it (NCA). Disney’s Adventures of the Gummi Bears was first aired on September 14, 1985 and lasted four whole years (Turner).

Even if you don’t love gummi bears, the very most popular kind of gummi candy, gummi worms, might just be the gummi confection for you! Trolli, another of those German candy companies, came up with and made the first gummi worm in the year 1981 (Bellis). At first, the idea of gummi worms was just a fun way to gross parents out that kids would like, but the parents started liking these scrumptious confections too, so now gummi worms are loved much by almost all (NCA). Brite Crawlers, the most favorite of all gummi worms, is about 2 inches long and is covered in sour sugar crystals (Bellis). Because of their popularity in America as well as in Germany, in 1986, they started up their own factory in Iowa (Hunisch).

Now, there are hundreds of small, large and even medium sized gummi candy manufacturers. Large companies, the most widely known type, include Black Forest, Haribo, Trolli, Sour Patch Kids and Ferrera control a lot of the packaged gummi sales in America because of brand name and good packaging. When gummis first became popular, about 10 years ago, many people thought that gummi candies were just a passing trend that would loose popularity rather quickly. Obviously, those geniused people were totally wrong, since now, gummis have grown fast and consistently enough that now they have an entire category to themselves in the candy businesses (Young 49).

All that brand stuff is only really important in the packaged candy area of gummis. For a big company to sell well and succeed, they need to sell in bulk as well as in the packaged part. A “very aggressive bulk program” says Babiarz of Candy Tech, is necessary for any business to have “phenomenal success” in gummi retailing. We all know that tons of people buy their gummis in bulk (‘cause it’s cheaper, admit it). When someone buys bulk, they don’t care about the brand name, they just care about price, a good flavor, the shape and if it’s colors are vibrant and catch their eye. One can usually buy bulk gummis as low as two or three dollars per pound as opposed to six or seven dollars per pound packaged.

“Variety is the spice of gummis,” Jason Young of Professional Candy Buyer stated in his article about gummi economics (Young 50). Sour gummis, which get their zing from fumaric acid as well as other acids, are a popular variation on plain gummis (“Gummi Bear”). Also, milk and white chocolate covered gummi bears (Koppers), vitamin-enriched gummis (for parents to trick their kids with), interactive shapes so kids can play with their food (Young 54), vegan gummis (made with pectin in place of gelatin) help to make gummis exciting for a whole new audience of gummi consumers (Pavlina)!

Molding gummis into any shape imaginable is one of their most endearing qualities and is part of what helps them continue to increase their sales yearly. Trolli recently came out with a new, innovative gummi trend. Called ‘double deposits,’ they are half normal clear gummi (usually on top), and on the bottom is a poofy, kind of foamy, opaque gummi that has a similar but different texture. Their gummi hot dogs, burgers and pizzas all use the foamy kind for the bun or crust. With their nifty individually wrapped gummi ‘meals,’ you can have a ‘balanced’ meal (Adams). Ask your mom for some of those as your lunch! Or, maybe you could eat Indiana Jones’s or Darth Vader’s gummi head which are imported from a Belgian manufacturer (Young 54).

Now, for the final mystery! What makes gummi candies gummi? GELATIN!!! Gelatin is a kind of gross-when-you-think-about-it thing. Made from animals hoofs, bones and cartilage it’s an odorless, tasteless, colorless jelly (Colombia Encyclopedia). It’s the basis for gummi candies, but its other ingredients include sugar, corn syrup, corn starch, flavoring, coloring and citric acid ("Gummi Bear"). From personal experience, I have found that without an adequate recipe they are really hard to make, so Hans Riegel must’ve been such a genius to come up with such a good product!

In factories, to mass produce gummis, all the ingredients are measured out and mixed up in big vats then cooked and put into a vacuum chamber to get rid of the extra moisture. The mixture is then separated into smaller vats where it is flavored and colored. When that’s done, the mix is squeezed into starch board molds and left to sit for 2-4 days. After that, it is packaged, delivered, sold and eaten by hungry people (Bellis).

In closing, just in case you wanted to know, the most popular flavor of gummi candy is cherry, or the red kind (NCA). But, seriously, now you know more than you ever need to about gummi bears, gummi candies in general, and a German candy maker.


Works Cited Adams Business Media. “Get a Bigger Bite Out of Gummi Sales.” Internet. 12 January 2006. <www.retailmerchandising.net/candy/archives/0801/0801gumi.asp>. Bellis, Mary. “Hans Riegel Invented Gummi Bears During the 1920’s.” Internet. 9 January 2006. <http://inventors.about.com/od/gstartinventions/a/gummi.htm>. Colombia Encyclopedia, The. “Gelatin.” Internet. 9 February 2006. <www.encyclopedia.com/html/g/gelatin.asp>. Turner, Amy. “Gummi Bears: That Great 1980s Television Show.” Internet. 11 January 2006. <http://academic.algonquincollege.com/students/turn0122/indez.html/>. “Gummi Bear.” Internet.10 January 2006. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gummi_Bear>. Haribo. “History of Gold Bear.” Internet. 10 January 2006. <http://haribo.com/planet/us/>. Hunisch, Julianne. “The History of Gummi Bears.” Internet. 10 January 2006. <http://academic.scranton.edu/student/HUNISCHJ2/history.html>. Koppers. "iGourmet Koppers Chocolate Covered Gummi Bears – White Chocolate (Polar Bears).” Internet. 11 January 2006. <www.cooking.com>. National Confectioners Association (NCA). “Gummi Bears and Gummi Candy.” Internet. 19 January 2006. <www.candyusa.org/candy/gummicandy.asp>. Pavlina, Erin. “Vegan Gummi Bear Review.” Internet. 11 January 2006. <www.vegfamily.com/productreviews/gummi-bears.htm>. Young, Jason. “Gummis Come of Age.” Professional Candy Buyer April 1998: 49+. Internet. 12 January 2006. <http://retailmerchandising.net/candy/archives.html>.

Ruthless813 00:18, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

So someone posts a paper they wrote on a Wikipedia talk page, among whose sources is... that talk page's associated Wikipedia article. My head hurts. drseudo (t) 07:50, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Gummy bear implants. You have got to be kidding me. Where do people come up with this stuff, eh?

I think what we're trying to say is thank you for sharing this, hopefully the sources can also be used to improve this article. Next time it might be better to post the actual paper elsewhere on the internet and link to it and just provide the sources as that's usually all we can use. Hope your effort scored well! Benjiboi 05:45, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Gelly Beans?

I was unable to verify the existence of "Gelly Beans" at all, much less as the thing Haribo makes with its excess gummi bear mix, which seems dubious anyway, since why not make more gummi bears out of it instead. Can anyone actually verify that this wasn't false information slipped into the article for a laugh? --Kaz 22:03, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, this sounds a bit dubious. I looked into Haribo "Gelly Beans" and didn't find much, although Haribo "Jelly Beans" do exist. Still, though, they are hard candy, and not of the gummy variety at all. Accordingly, I'm going to remove the entire section, but feel free to reintroduce it if it can be sourced. Nicolasdz 14:46, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wine gum

How do these differ (if at all) from wine gum? Badagnani 21:11, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Gummi Bears are fruit gum, made with fruit acid, wine gums are made with wine acid.

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Health issues

This part seems to have seen several iterations, but the current state is just bizarre. Flatly stating that "Bowel obstructions ... are extremely rare", with one case linked to gummy bears (and nothing) else is more of a non-information. Even if bowel obstructions may occur in rare cases, the fact that these are high-calorie sweets with no real nutritional value would probably still be the most important health issue. Averell 14:57, 10 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I took the liberty of removing the bowel obstruction issue. It should only go back if there is any evidence that it is actually important to the topic of gummy bears. Averell 17:25, 22 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reinstated Ingredients/Health issues

All right, I actually went back and checked the history of the article a bit. Both the "Ingredients" and the original "Health" section disappeared not because of discussions here, but because of vandalism (where only the obvious vandalism was removed, without restoring the actual content that had been replaced five revisions earlier...)

Both contained useful information, so I restored those sections to the state where they were before the original vandalism. They may not be perfect, but at least the information is back. Averell 17:25, 22 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ringtone

I removed the ringtone session. Quite frankly, I believe that this ringtone is not noteable enough to be included at all.


If it is, this page is about the food product, which has nothing to do with that ringtone whatsoever. Maybe in that case it should be on it's own page, or on the Disney bears page or ... Averell 19:01, 28 October 2007 (UTC) gummi bears give cancer —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.97.123.237 (talk) 00:18, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I started an article that addresses the song and ringtone and the article can be found by following the other uses link at the top of this article's page. Benjiboi 05:42, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Gummi Bear

Unless anyone has any valid objections, i plan to change the entire page to the spelling "Gummi Bear" as all of the sources i can find spell it that way, and that is how it is spelled by the company who originated it (Haribo). As far as i can tell, Trolli changed it to avoid legal confrontation. German food means German spelling. Darkage7 (talk) 09:15, 6 December 2007 (UTC) I've moved it all over now... Darkage7 (talk) 18:46, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As long as both spellings are addressed in the article seems fine to me. Benjiboi 05:47, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I'm afraid you may have botched the move a bit as all the page and talk page history is gone. Please ask an admin to help you get this restored and post here so we know the status. If I don't see anything in a day or so I'll work on it when I have time. Benjiboi 05:53, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know how to move a history over... Darkage7 (talk) 06:07, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It was the method you used, honest mistake and can be fixed. On the upper left side of most pages under the History link of an article is "Move" that one uses for renaming, when you use that it will automatically move the talk pages and all the history with it. I'll see if i can find an admin who's experienced in moves to help us fix. Benjiboi 07:43, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Talk Spam Cleanup?

Surprising this has gone un-noticed for so long, especially with active talks. I think these are the talk edits need to be removed. I'm not an active wikipedian, so IDK. 09:18, 10 May 2007 211.50.61.82 01:46, 11 September 2007 24.33.137.91 Cheers. 68.237.239.86 (talk) 20:31, 15 December 2007 (UTC)A passing visitor[reply]

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