Talk:New Haven–style pizza

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Any way for this to be encyclopedic? I'm not sure how relevant a style of pizza in one particular town is. Would this ever be verifiable? Friday 17:34, 13 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

See: VfD Frank Pepe

FWIW, there are also already articles on New York-style pizza, Chicago-style pizza, and St. Louis-style pizza. I think these are all relevant to serious discussion of different styles and traditions of pizza, as well as to the local cuisine of the particular cities. Dr.frog 22:50, 20 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

New Haven pizza is a type of pizza along the lines of Chicago style or New York Style. The article has relevance in the history of pizza as well as in the general typology of pizza. People travel great distances and line up for hours to buy New Haven pizza partially for its unique taste and partially for its historical significance. If somebody wanted an explanation for this behavior, it would be natural for many to look up New Haven pizza on Wikipedia. In addition, it's natural for people visiting the area to want to know what "Apizza" is and why it only seems to be in the New Haven area. For these reasons, it seems the best service to the public would be for the article to stay and be improved if possible. 71.235.99.181 (talk) 00:38, 22 December 2007 (UTC)Greg[reply]

'a pizza

I'd like to present a more reasonable explanation for this debate/discussion.

Most Italian emmigrants who settled in New Haven were Neapolitan (from the south of Italy, Amalfi, Sorrento, Salerno, Caserta, etc.). Most of them spoke the Neapolitan language (or dialect if you will).

In Neapolitan, the word for pizza is `a pizza. The word `a is the definite article the used before nouns like pizza which doesn't need to be translated here. For purposes of comparison, the word would be la pizza in Italian.

It's likely that these illiterate immigrants (I beg you, I mean no disrespect in this comment) weren't able to write properly Neapolitan nor English. When these immigrants began to open their own restaraunts, they started to write apizza on their signs and in their menus.

In conclusion, apizza isn't "a New Haven word" or some kind of local slang. It's just the way that the illiterate immigrants wrote the Neapolitan word 'a pizza, which over time, was used by other pizza places in greater New Haven and reinforced over the last 80 years.

If you don't want to take my word for it, here's the Neapolitan language Wikipedia. Afterall, `a pizza was created in Naples!

salutammo

Apizza is just another way to say pizza

When I lived in the New Haven area, it was my understanding that apizza ("ah-beets") was just another way to say "pizza". (As the last anonymous commenter says, a dialect variation.) This Wikipedia article is the first time I encountered the theory that this is the name for New Haven-style pizza. I have not seen any support for this theory (the cited reference does not suggest any such thing). ... --orlady 21:37, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Every pizzeria in the New Haven area has Apizza in the sign; I believe that's sufficient evidence of the validity of the word being directly associated with New Haven style pizza. I have seen the name used in other parts of the country, usually qualifying themselves as: "New Haven Style Apizza". Jsderwin 09:37, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

For anyone who may be interested, there is a relatively new place in San Diego, CA serving New Haven style pizza. It's called Basic Urban Bar and Kitchen, and one of the principle owners hails from New Haven. It's across the street from Petco Park, the ballpark where the San Diego Padres play, and is a favorite pre- and post-game stop for baseball fans. On that note, when the Boston Red Sox are in town, the place is simply packed with New Englanders...

This writer would have to say that it is certainly the best pizza he has ever had in his life.

Apizza in Southern California...

For anyone who may be interested, there is a relatively new place in San Diego, CA serving New Haven style pizza. It's called Basic Urban Bar and Kitchen, and one of the principle owners hails from New Haven. It's across the street from Petco Park, the ballpark where the San Diego Padres play, and is a favorite pre- and post-game stop for baseball fans. On that note, when the Boston Red Sox are in town, the place is simply packed with New Englanders...

This writer would have to say that it is certainly the best pizza he has ever had in his life.

Pictures of Apizza and Article Notability

Looking at those two pictures on the page, I have to ask what exactly is unique about these pizzas? The upper picture shows a pizza with clams, which is surely an uncommon ingredient, but it just doesn't seem to warrant its own page. The lower one just looks like every other traditional pizza I have seen. If these are examples of so-called "New Haven style" pizza, it makes me skeptical about this type of pizza being notable.

Has anyone noticed that the previous vote for deletion of this page saw participation mostly from people who dine at Sally's and Pepe's pizzerias? It makes me feel that those votes were cast more for having an article about their favorite pizzerias rather than on notability. I guess this is how wikipedia makes decisions, but I wonder if the same decision would have been reached with more participants in the discussion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.96.6.11 (talk) 19:38, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]