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Page history: Feb-Dec 2003, Jan-Jun 2004, Jun 04-Apr 05



Good luck, Angela

Hi Angela,

Just a little note to let you know that I've (belatedly) returned from the polling booth. I voted for you:-) David Cannon 30 June 2005 13:52 (UTC)

Thanks for your support. :) Angela. June 30, 2005 20:00 (UTC)

Hi, just to let you know that the list of UK participants at the UK notice board was getting rather long, so I have replaced it with the above category which I have added to your user page. -- Francs2000 | Talk File:Uk flag large.png 30 June 2005 18:40 (UTC)

PS what are you doing in Berlin?

Thanks for adding the category. I'm now living in Berlin since I started seeing Erik who lived in Berlin, and Berlin was a lot cheaper than anywhere in the UK, so we decided to stay here for now. My postal address is still the UK though, so Category:UK Wikipedians isn't entirely untrue. :) Angela. June 30, 2005 20:00 (UTC)

I posted this originally to User talk:Jimbo Wales, but it struck me that you might be more appropriate to ask:

Given that HMSO has stated that they do not consider material under Crown Copyright reproducable under a GFDL licence,

what is Wikipedia's legal position with reproducing the entire King James Bible, which is Crown Copyright (rather than just small scattered portions of it) ?

This is with respect to the full text sections of the articles


(Co-incidentally, these are currently up on VfD on other grounds, but it is a reasonable possibility that the VfD will fail)

~~~~ 1 July 2005 21:25 (UTC)

We allow {{PD-US}} images, so how is this different if the text for the jurisidction in which the database servers are is PD? If it concerns you, you may want to email juriwiki, but I don't see why editors outside the UK would need to conform to Crown Copyright when the work is freely available to them. Angela. July 2, 2005 01:07 (UTC)
I was concerned about the fact that there may soon be wikipedia servers in Australia, which is still under the crown. ~~~~ 6 July 2005 20:15 (UTC)
I've not aware of any plans currently to put servers in Australia. If there are, it would still be possible for those to be caching servers rather than database servers. Angela. July 9, 2005 02:39 (UTC)

Angela, if you know how, could you please remove the Places to Help Out and VfD sections on Wikipedia:Goings-on? I've requested this and explained why on the talk page, but I can't figure out how to do it myself because there's so much customized formatting. I tried, but when I previewed I couldn't get things to look right.

Incidentally, how did Wikipedia get to this point? I've been here for close to two years, and it's getting harder for me to edit things, not easier. People have sacrificed ease of editing in favor of having stupid colored boxes everywhere. Isomorphic 3 July 2005 01:02 (UTC)

I've sent a request to join the FKC mailing list

Please let me know if there is anything you require of me before you are able to accept me on to this list. Many thanks. Pcb21| Pete 4 July 2005 08:40 (UTC)

Nothing I can think of. You should be subscribed now. Angela. July 4, 2005 13:25 (UTC)
Thanks. Pcb21| Pete 4 July 2005 13:40 (UTC)

Wikisource question

Hi! I asked for your help about wikisource here. Gubbubu 6 July 2005 09:25 (UTC)

Wikisource conversion

Hi Angela! I will do the same thing at your talk page there. Dovi July 6, 2005 12:46 (UTC)

lb-wiki: language swaps of user interface

Dear Angela,
I contact you in your quality as a developer re a problem that we experience at the lb-wiki since the first tests with MediaWiki 1.5. started: Whatever language preference one indicates for the user interface, the user interface randomly swaps from that preferred language to English and back. Except the fact that of course the lb-users do not feel very comfortable with these random language swaps, some of our links not situated in the main namespace do no longer work and all our bots are currently down as they can not handle random window title changes.
Can you please help to get this bug fixed or have the present request forwarded to another competent developer? Thanks. --Otets 6 July 2005 20:39 (UTC)

This is also happening on es and sh. I've reported it at bugzilla:683#c5. Angela. July 7, 2005 04:18 (UTC)

Thanks. This morning it seemed to be fixed already. Let's touch wood. --Otets 8 July 2005 10:37 (UTC)

One more technical question on Wikisource

Hi Angela. Thanks so much for your help checking things out with Brion! One more technical question here.Dovi July 7, 2005 08:29 (UTC)

Hi Angela. I tried to make this stuff clearer in my reply at User_talk:Angela#Clarification_on_links_between_wikis. Sorry the details got so confused. Dovi July 7, 2005 17:40 (UTC)


Please help!

Dear Angela,

I am new to Wikipedia, enormously impressed and at the same time disturbed. I don’t suppose I am raising anything new for you but would appreciate your comments.

After reading around and noticing the way that Wikipedia is structured and what is happening in the hierarchy and all the changes since May 04, [when a major new software infrastructure was introduced] it seems to me likely that Wikipedia is being used by western ‘intelligence’ not only to provide a way of keeping under surveillance those who might be troublesome but also of ensuring that in the most important fields of human knowledge and endeavour not only does Wikipedia provide a simple way of staying in touch with developments but, even more insidiously, a way of ensuring that these developments may even, to an extent, be ‘managed’ in a way that is as compatible as possible with western values and interests. NPOV seems as close to a definition of this as anyone is likely to be able to imagine.

I accept that I have no hard 'evidence' whatsoever for this surmise. At the very least, however, it would be a dereliction of duty were CIA, Homeland Security, MI6 and whoever else, not to infiltrate as far as possible and set up whatever mechanisms were possible to be able to track people, groups and movements over 200 languages and involved in discussions on every possible topic of human interest.

But I suggest that it is very unlikely that their involvement is limited in that way. It is more likely that they are supporting the development of Wikipedia and its community in order to be able to keep track of people and developments and foster what they consider to be positive change.

I would be very interested in your comments. I am sending this also to a few others whom I think would have something to add.

Jeffrey Newman 8 July 2005 12:09 (UTC)

How can you talk about "all the changes since May 04" and at the same time claim to be new to Wikipedia? Angela. July 9, 2005 02:39 (UTC)
Both are true. I found myself deeply drawn in and read a lot. Who it was who spoke of the software changes I don't remember (I think I could possibly trace if necessary) but whoever it was put a lot of emphasis on that. However the issues I have raised are entirely mine. I have not seen them directly raised in Wikipedia, though they may have been. Fred Bauder has commented on my talk page, but I think he underestimates both the resources now available to the security services and the importance of Wikipedia. Of course, the issue is - even were it to be true, what could/should one do? I suppose I should send this to Daniel Mayer who will know most about the finance (and yes - I am new and such information is open and immediately accessible, which is why I think that trained intelligence people could have a major impact.)

Thank you for taking the trouble to give me even a brief reply. I will think further.

PS Why does 'Fred Bauder' come up in 'red' not 'blue'? Jeffrey Newman 9 July 2005 12:35 (UTC)

You need to use the User: prefix to link to a user page. User:Fred Bauder exists, but an article about him does not, which is why Fred Bauder is a red link. Angela. July 9, 2005 14:18 (UTC)

Gravity page

Dear Angela,

Just to give you a heads-up: The gravity article has been dealing with a persistant vandal/nuisance who wants his original research on the subject to be mentioned one way or another on that page. I have taken the lead in the fight against him, and he considers me to be the vandal because of the regular removal of his material from that article.

I have just told him to report me as the vandal if he really feels that way, and he well may. See talk:gravity. The relevant thread is at the top since I just archived all of the previous material, but it is a long one and you may be best off starting at the bottom of it, where I summarize my case against this individual. (His name is Nigel Cook, but he always edits Wikipedia anonymously.)

So be aware that this issue may be "kicked upstairs" by him, and that it will not be your usual vandalism report. --EMS | Talk 8 July 2005 19:18 (UTC)

I think its fairly clear to anyone it's not a normal vandalism report. Have you considering beginning the Dispute resolution process? Perhaps getting more comments via WP:RFC might help? Angela. July 9, 2005 02:39 (UTC)

Could you please take a look at the above template, it is currently the subject of a revert war where both sides are at the 3RR limit. ~~~~ 13:06, 10 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

IP liars in HuWP

Dear Angela! There is a user in Hungarian Wikipedia, hu:User:ip-number.com who states that his IP adress is 80.98.42.42. I don't think that, because this is my IP-number at the same time. He wrote some personal articles hu:bökvers about hu:User:Nyenyec and I don't want to be mixed with him. If I have troubles with someone, I used to tell it to him directly and not to write about him in articles. Is there a possibility for some administrator to check this user and telling me his IP? Thank you. You can write answer to this page. I wrote these anonymously, because I don't want anyone to know my IP. 80.98.42.42 06:52, 11 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It would be possible for a developer to look up the IP number, but it sounds very much like the person is being purposefully disruptive, so it may be easier to deal with via your normal policies. Has there been any discussion on whether to block this user? Are they making any good edits at all? Would checking their IP actually help if you're sure that's not their IP in the first place? Angela. 06:58, July 11, 2005 (UTC)
Problem seems to be solved, thanks repliing. 80.98.42.42 08:56, 11 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Kyrghyz

Hi! There is a problem with Kyrgyz link at pages! Kyrgyz currently uses Cyrillic. Current word is Turkish. Kyrgyz link should be Кыргызча --Untifler 07:32, 11 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure, is any community at this wikipedia... But Kyrgyz uses only Cyrillic in Kyrgyzstan and Arabic in Xianjiang. Latin messages are not in Kyrgyz, the are in Turkish. Only Cyrillic message needs.--Untifler 16:42, 11 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Doppelganger account

I would like for you to take a look at Wikipedia talk:Doppelganger account/Archive 1#I object to the bizarre manner this vote is being conducted, and comment if you wish. --cesarb 21:24, 11 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Interwiki problem

Dear Angela,

There is a problem with the interwiki link to the csb wiki. The language name is displayed incorrectly, instead of "Kaszëbscziej", it should be "Kaszëbsczi". I corrected the php file at:

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/LanguageBn.php,

as well as several other instances of the wrong name on META, but this has had no effect at all. Maybe somebody should just upload the updated file? Yes, I did clean up my browser's cache before asking this :-)

Could you possibly help me with that, please? Sorry to bother you, but I got no response on META, and after all, this is a "global issue", since it affects all wikipedias that link to csb. Kind regards, UCZK 22:05, 11 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations!

Congratulations, my love! Wikimedia would not be what it is without you, and today the community has shown you that it is fully aware of that. May the next 2 years be as successful and exciting as the last. It's good to know that you will be there, listening to people's concerns and fears, moving the projects forward, and keeping Wikimedia from harm.--Eloquence* 03:58, July 12, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks!Thank you, and thanks to everyone who voted. :) Angela. 04:06, July 12, 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations! Wow...I am so not used to people I have voted for actually winning. :) func(talk) 04:21, 12 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Keep up the fanstastic work. The position should also come with an extra official title: "The Most Helpful Person at Wikipedia." Dovi 05:59, July 12, 2005 (UTC)

Me too. Apwoolrich 06:27, 12 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Toutes mes félicitations (congratulations) Angela. Aoineko 06:59, 12 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]