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Arab Reference

I've removed the following text from the entry that is floating the idea that the name has Arab roots.

Although there are claims that this name came from South Asia, it has been proven that it started from the arabian peninsula. The Chughtai were also one of the clans/ tribe in areas of Saudi Arabia and many claim to be from that ancestry.

The reason for doing so, is that, the name itself is a Mongolian name and there are where the roots belongs to. If, historically, the name moved to Arabian peninsula or anywhere else in the world, that does not prove that it is Arabic. If there's a claim that it is Arab and not Mongolian i.e. not related to Chaghadai Khan, then please cite the reference and create a separate entry for such name. This topic is strictly related to the surname that is based on the lineage of Chaghadai Khan.

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Arab Reference

I just saw that aswell, you see it was also a name which came from the arabian peninsula. And many people still carry the name in that area. I have read that it was a tribe in Arabia called Chughtai and people to this day still carry the last name in arabia and that name has status as arab —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.229.66.7 (talk) 06:48, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please cite any out-of-wikipedia sources for your Arab reference? I am just wondering 'cause the Chaghatai Khanate was in south and central asia, and if the family line extended to Arabian penisula then it would be interesting to know that how it happened?.hameed 14:28, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Merger

I oppose the merging of the article about Chaghatai language, which is of greater importance for the cultural history of Central Asia and beyond, with the article about the family name Chughtai. I do not see why there shouldn't be a separate entry on the family name if people wish to have it, but that should be it. Otherwise one could easily come up with a para on the family name English under the entry for the language of the same name or a para on family names in the articles on virtually any historic person on Wikipedia (Bismarck, Bhutto, Bayazid, Blake...). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Züccaciye (talk • contribs) 23:46, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I support the merger as both language and the surname are directly related to Chaghatai Khan; one is the legacy and other is the lineage. I'll support to an extent that most articles with common source to be merged in order to maintain consistency. I would also like to emphasize that the pronunciation and written form of Chughtai (the lineage) is not different from Chaghatai, cultural factors around south-asia are responsible for linguistic distortions; but reflects the same root i.e. Chaghatai hameed (talk) 14:58, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

I also oppose such a merger per Züccaciye. Otebig (talk) 11:44, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I Support this most probable merger as per Hameed. Both the language and the surname are linked directly to Chaghatai Khan. 62.17.141.34 (talk) 09:06, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]