Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Neutrois (2nd nomination)

Neutrois

Non-notable neologism; only two sources - one of which doesn't mention the term, the other of which is not-reputable; recreation of deleted content; etc. -Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:31, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per non-notable WP:NEO. Suprised it wasn't speedy deleted when it was recreated. -Jahnx (talk) 08:17, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to genderqueer per this source, which is about as comprehensive an RS as I found. There's a lot of personal interpretation in these non-societally-sanctioned gender identities and we've already got a couple of good (well, better) articles like that one and third gender to cover the area. --Dhartung | Talk 08:57, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

redirecting to genderqueer brings back the stigma of politicization for a group that don't need anymore bs. redirecting to third gender does not work as it is largely a cultural and historical term. Taineyah (talk) 09:23, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

also, what does "Just Add Hormones" have to do with redirecting the article?Taineyah (talk) 09:44, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is the ONLY result for the word "neutrois" on Google Books. It uses the term in a definition of transgendered: Most generally used as an umbrella term that encompasses a range of people .... (standard TG definition, feel out of place in wrong body, etc.) It can also refer to those who present as androgynous or do not define themselves by gender at all. In some cases, these people self-identify as "genderqueer", "genderless", or "neutrois". There are many other names that people use to define themselves. There are no relevant hits on Google Scholar or Google News Archive. --Dhartung | Talk 11:47, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Lack of sources is not the same as unverifiability. Wikipedia deletion policy states that if a page can be improved, to take that option rather than deletion. As for the non-reputable source, questionable sources may be used in articles about themselves. Finally, this article is still being built- see WP:INSPECTOR. I do realize I'm not a user of this site and my vote may not be counted, but I hope you'll at least allow me to voice my thoughts on this. 24.70.106.141 (talk) 09:29, 21 March 2008 (UTC)Mendori[reply]

Comment What sources do you propose we use? --Dhartung | Talk 11:47, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

At present, attempts are being made to obtain a copy of a German book which is supposed to have further references. Unfortunately, we're being forced to obtain an electronic copy from the British Library as it is a rare book and difficult to find. If we can find it, then we should be able to use that book to find further sources.Taineyah (talk) 20:03, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My point exactly And that essentially proves that this is a non-notable neologism. -Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:47, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy delete as re-created deleted material and so tagged. If there is any new evidence that it is notable this can be thrashed out at a deletion review. —Snthdiueoa (talk|contribs) 09:49, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]