Talk:Gerard Way

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It is great to see so many of you interested in improving MCR related wikipedia articles. However, there a few things you must remember. Because this page in paticular is a biography, please do not add any claims or rumours that are not well sourced. Please use the discussion page first, that is what it is here for. Second, do not add any personal opinions relating to any of the members, as this is an encyclopaedia. Thank you for contributing. --Sadistic monkey 23:41, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Current Residence

At the Bamboozle Left concert on April 6, 2008, Way stated that he now resides in Los Angeles, CA. I see the page is locked but just wanted to document that in case someone can change it. --206.117.15.4 (talk) 19:36, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

WHO THE HELL KEEPS DELETING HEADINGS?!

'HAPPY F*CK*NG BIRTHDAY GERARD.' HOPE YOU GET LOTS OF NICE BLACK TEE SHIRTS, BABY! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.36.223.213 (talk) 23:06, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Iron Maiden & Gerard Way

"She also made his costume, which included traditional green tights. After this Way "turned his back" on singing, saying, "Well, I don't want to be this weird singer kid, [I'm] into other things like comics and Iron Maiden". He then decided to pursue graphic arts."

Are there are any sources that can clarify that Gerard Way is into comics & Iron Maiden? His music is not in the style of Iron Maiden, nor is it in the same genre. What proof is there? Unconscious 14:26, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

It's in the Life on the Murder Scene DVD and in several printed magazines. I'm huge into Green Day and I play jazz. I don't think it really matters what you listen to. I'll try to dig some up, but I've been hella busy lately. Thanks for your concern!--JUDE ^talk 19:04, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

If it's on the Life on the Murder Scene DVD, perhaps you should make a reference to it during that paragraph, or add it into the reference section? Unconscious 19:53, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Citation needed

"Way had always been interested in drawing and comics because his childhood house was a "dark and dingy gothic-looking" place in the town of Belleville, New Jersey. Way says that as a (emo)child, he was not able to play much outside, because it was a dangerous area. Instead, he created imaginary worlds in his head, which led to his love for artwork. As a child, Gerard came to the realization that everyone he cares about will eventually die, and that he will die alone. This has led to his current obsession with the idea of death. "

This paragraph is uncitated, and seems to be a mere claim... May someone review it, and change/remove it if it is found to be just a claim? Unconscious 14:37, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

This is found in the DVD as well, however the last part about dying came from imnotokay.net and a few users ( myself included ) believe that it's slightly sensationalised. I'm going to remove the part about dying alone.--JUDE ^talk 19:05, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

If it's on the Life on the Murder Scene DVD, perhaps you should make a reference to it during that paragraph, or add it into the reference section? Unconscious 19:53, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Gerard has mentioned that he "came to the realization that everyone he cares about will eventually die, and that he will die alone" in quite a few magazine articles, one being KERRANG! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.20.187.128 (talk • contribs) 11:08, April 15, 2007 (UTC)

Mcr's Genre

God I love MCR. I went to their Chicago concert...ANYWAYS, I remember I read somewhere that Gerard said they were "violent pop". Yeah and at the concert, Gerard said,"People are saying that we're some sort of 'emo deathcult'. Well #1: we're not emo. # 2: we're not a deathcult." i forgot what number 3 was but whatever... --71.193.159.202 01:30, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
I can't cite this which is bad (I'm sure it's in an interview somewhere) but I'm positive that the band themselves do not want to be called emo. In my opinion they are genre-less, since it changes from album to album.

130.85.235.231 03:28, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

I think it is best to leave it as "Alternate rock, disputed sub genres". That way we can avoid any arguments.--Sadistic monkey 09:23, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

I feel MCR have no genre so just dont say rock.emo or whatever. I know MCR IS NOT emo. Emo is a subgenre of hardcore punk music (got from wikipedia) and u think bout it. Black Parade is different. Yes MCR have been hardcore punk but I feel they have grown out of that!

That's what the "disputed subgenres" part is for :) this way they won't be labelled anything specific since their albums don't all fit into the same category --Yunaresuka 02:50, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

I feel that MCR comes under the MTV-genres, eg; MTV ROCK / MTV EMO / MTV METAL... An example would be Trivium, I do not classify them as metal, nor do most 'metalheads', therefore, it becomes MTV metal, because MTV-fans and MTV are the only ones who claim it is metal.

I vote Emo, and whoever the hell just vandalised my opinion ought to be deleted from Wikipedia. I do not wish to check back at the edit history, but grow up, and stay the hell away from articles you can't work with, without harassing other users. Unconscious 14:29, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

My Chem are not emo. They dont go "oh, oh, look at me, im so depressed im gonna go kill myself now!" and thats what your opinion on emo seems to be. when you stated that they all dye their hair black and grow it over one eye, were you referring to the band or the fans? because i'm a huge fan, and i do have a dark hair, but i was born with that,so, not my fault! i also know quite a few blonde my chem fans who havn't dyed their hair black. and as for the band, gerard, mikey, frank and ray have naturally dark hair, and bob's hair is a kind of blonde, and guess what... he's in the band! My Chem also can't help who their fans are, they dont go out and pick them, so you cant judge a band by its fans, nor can you judge a person by their music. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.20.187.128 (talk • contribs) 11:14, April 15, 2007 (UTC)

"Disputed Genres" seems just fine to me. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mychemfan13 (talk • contribs) 21:04, April 15, 2007 (UTC)

Whoever wrote the following is completely wrong. As a fan, I know, not all fans dye their hair black and grow their hair over one eye. They don't sing about being different, they sing about life. And I don't believe MCR's genre should be mentioned on the page! Because it's about Gerard, not his band. And as well, I don't think the world hates me. That is just stereotyping and you can keep your stereotyping to yourself. -- Kii Kii 21:04, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Of course they're emo, they're fans all think the world hates them and they all dye their hair black and grow it over one eye. I know I'm generalising so sorry but MCR are emo, because they sing about being different even though all they're fans are the same.

I did say I'm generalising. All I'm saying is that I haven't seen one MCR fan who likes anyone of the following Slayer, Metallica, Alice Cooper, Iron Maiden, Saxon, Manowar. Furthermore I haven't seen one MCR fan that isn't depressed. It makes me laugh how MCR's song, "I'm not OK" is completely about being isolated from your peers, even though MCR fans are the same, so your not alone. lol Also I agree with the guy who wrote about MTV genres. Trivium Sucks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jay316 (talk • contribs) 11:11, April 16, 2007 (UTC)

I'm an MCR fan, and I like Metallica and Iron Maiden. I was Emo for a while and now I'm not, yet I still love MCR. You are generalising, and Generalising = Bad.

So is stereotyping, and I'm afraid, you just stereotyped yourself. I'd either call MCR Emo, or Pop. One of the two, although, considering it's obviously a source of controversy, "Disputed" is fine. Unconscious 23:30, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

My Chemical Romance '''is not emo'''. NOT EMO. NO.NO.NO.NO.NO. They're not metal either. Look at the second box down, the qoute from mikey: http://www.imnotokay.net/board/topic/454/

I've heard Gerard describe it as "violent pop". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.20.13.241 (talk) 01:33, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

I don't care what the hell they personally classify it as. Statements and Fact are not perfectly intertwined, and just because MCR and their fans refuse to say its emo does not mean that MCR is not emo. After all, you can say that orange is blue for all eternity, but it doesn't mean you're right. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.45.16.206 (talk) 02:33, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

i agree. personal testimonials ("i like Metallica and MCR") and opinions have no value. explain why MCR isn't an emo band. Mixed isn't specific enough. i think POP and ALTERNATIVE ROCK and disputed sub-genres would be appropriate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.45.220.23 (talk) 01:35, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

24.17.192.179 (talk) 04:38, 29 January 2008 (UTC) MCR'S GENRE IS ROCK. THAT'S IT.

My Chemical Romance is not an emo band. I've seen some interviews and Gerard has made it clear that he hates emo music. Actually, he's said that he thinks "Emo is f*ck*ng garbage." He doesn't think emo means anything. MCR's music is not about being unhappy. It's about stages in life. The topics of the Black Parade are: life, death, and love. That was also quoted by Gerard. He said that those 3 topics are what it's all about. And, this is VERY important! MCR fans are not all the same. Like, that's a dumb comment. They are not all emo! I happen to love MCR and have been to one of their concerts. I am definetly not emo. I've never been and never will be emo. There's other ways to deal with your problems. Don't hurt yourself over unhappiness. Get help.. Nobody wants to see another person hurting themselves. It makes others unhappy and they want to help, but they can't always. Anyways, back to MCR's genre. MCR is not emo and they would like to be categorized as "alternative rock" or "punk rock". I personally think MCR doesn't need a genre. They're perfect the way they are! -- mcr fan♥ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.226.183.97 (talk) 21:57, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Helena

Helena is about his grandmother Elena Lee Rush passing away right before the recording of three cheers for sweet revenge, Elena's nickname was Helen which is why Gerard named the song Helena, He has said she was his biggest musical influence, and it was hard for him to have the Helena charachter dance in the video because he thought it would be disrespectful. He now wears his grandmother's wedding ring which led to millions of rumors about him being married. I've gathered all that from multiple sources, including Imnotokay.net , songmeanings.net, mcr interviews,and Gerard himself...

Mikey also used to wear the ring, but now it's Gerards turn... I thought you might also like to know that —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.20.187.128 (talk • contribs) 11:16, April 15, 2007 (UTC)

In an interview he said the ring was because of his engagement (he was really exited about it) but I've heard that he threw the ring in the public during a concert. I doubt he'd do that with his grandmother's wedding ring.. - Maud'

Belleville, NJ

NJ is not crime ridden. I know that and I dont live there. I have seen Gerard's house and it is different. They have pictures of t.v./ Film families and personalities. It is kind of funny. If u look on Youtube u will find Gerard Showing his house. Its not bad

Ok, here we go agian with the "looks can be diecieving" quote. If you look this up on Search.com, then it will tell you that though it doesn't look it now, it really was a crime ridden nieghbor-hood. Gerard himself said that they kept finding all these dead bodies around the parks, so he couldnt go out.

That was Ray who said that, about Kearny, not Bellville. Crossbow1 15:00, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

If you believe that, then I don't know what to tell you. I grew up in Belleville, NJ, and went to school with Gerard and Mike Way. There weren't dead bodies or tons of crime. They're wrong and/or just flat-out lying. I promise you, at least since the early 1980's when I moved there, Belleville hasn't been a crime-ridden town. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.203.64.174 (talk) 22:23, 18 March 2007 (UTC).

I lived in New jersey for ten years, i can say first hand it is not crime ridden, yes some areas have crime but not all infact most areas of new jersey are nice.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Truemcrfan (talk • contribs) 05:02, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

The point is not whether it is crime ridden or not, it was merely a quote from Gerard Way *about* him growing up. Why am I even on this page? I hate the band.... Ah well; everyone has to contribute something, regardless whether it interests them or not. Unconscious 14:31, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Since when is Gerard from Summit, New Jersey? He's from Belleville not Summit!

Okay, who ever wrote this biogrpahy is messed up. Gerard and Mikey aren't from Summit, NJ. They're from Belleville. GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT PEOPLE! oh and btw. Belleville isn't a terrible place. It may have been in the 70's, but I think it might have changed. again, i THINK it MIGHT have changed. I don't live there. I don't know for sure, I bet Belleville has improved a bit. If it didn't, then why would Donna and Donald be living there? anyway, love the page. pretty good other than the fact that the facts need to be changed a bit. :D

King of Rock

Recently on MTV2's All That Rocks, Gerard Way was voted the "Almighty King of Rock" with 63% of the vote. Should this be put on Gerard Way's page??

Ok, I put it on there, but if it needs to be moved around then it should. But that's an important think to add I think. Orfen 05:23, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I don't see anything wrong with that. --Remz 12:04, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

As long as you have added a source, that's fine.--Sadistic monkey 23:29, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, its about him,and its pretty important. well,not so important that it should stay on there forever, but yes,i think its a good idea. THExBREAKFASTxMONKEY 21:11, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

It might been important but it's pretty stupid, MTV know nothing about Music anymore, I mean they never play music, they just fill it with Pimp My Ride. MTV is all about making money and Gerard Way is not a "king" of rock. People like Ronnie James Dio, Lemmy and Dimebag (RIP) should only be labeled "Kings" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jay316 (talk • contribs) 14:25, April 14, 2007 (UTC)

that sad..... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.229.35.146 (talk) 07:34, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

"Olivia"

I recently put a piece in teh trivia section about a supposed relationship with a girl named Olivia and it was deleted. I usually don't like to rock-the-boat but that was a serious rumour for a while and I left it a month before I added it just to be sure. Now my paragraph also defunked the rumour and cited an interview refrence about how she is a hair stylist and they are "just friends". So why was it deleted? You've got a paragraph there about a supposed relationship with Bert McCraken, so why not this one?

It is a rumour, not a fact...The bit about Bert McCraken is a fact. I think that is why it is removed. Olivia is not a person...She is Gerard's dog. The girl in the rumour is Eliza "Cuts". She is Mikey's hair stylist and a friend of Alicia Simmons. Mikey has offically declared on his myspace account that Eliza has never dated anyone in the band. Please visit worldsmosthated.com to learn more about Eliza and Alicia. Unlike Mikey, Gerard never talked about his personal love life in interviews. -- Chatake 20:43, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Actually, Olivia is Katmandu's daughter. Gerard and Katmandu were dating for six years but never got engaged. Katmandu is her daughter but in no way related to Gerard. If you don't believe me, read the thank you's in the booklet of three cheers for sweet revenge.

oh and to Chatake: MIKEY DOESN'T HAVE MYSPACE!!! (and never has)

Okay, just thought I should point out a few things.

1. 'Katmandu' is not ther realy name, just a nickname. Her real name is constantly debated. 2. Mikey did, at one time, have a myspace. As the band became more popular, he deleted it. This was before the EC rumors. 3. Eliza and Gerard never admitted to dating, but, against Gerard's wishes, Eliza made it incredibly obvious. They are not still engaged, however.

AND JUST EXPLAIN ONE PIECE OF INFORMATION WITH ME...

WHY IS ALICIA AND ELIZA ON worldsmosthated.com ??!?!?!?!

IT'S NOT FAIR! JUST BECAUSE ELIZA WAS ENGADGED TO GERARD AND ALICIA IS MARRIED TO MIKEY DOESN'T GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO HATE THEM! MIKEY IS VERY HAPPY WITH ALICIA! YOU SHOULD BE HAPPY FOR HIM OTHER THAN HATE HIS WIFE JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN'T BE WITH HIM!

NEWSFLASH! HE'S 28 YEARS OLD AND YOU'RE LIKE WHAT...IN YOUR TEENS?!? YEAH THERE'S NO WAY YOU COULD EVER BE WITH HIM BECAUSE IT'S KNOWN AS SAGITORY[sp?] RAPE.

AND ELIZA? I LIKE HER. SHE SEEMS VERY NICE. SHE AND GERARD GOT UNENGADGED LAST YEAR! GROW UP PEOPLE! I'M TIRED OF HEARING,

"I HATE ELIZA!" "I HATE ALICIA!" "HE SHOULD BE WITH ME!"

you know what? NO ONE CARES! GOD IT'S ANNOYING! if he SHOULD be with you, shouldn't he at least no you personally? DUH. egt it through your heads.

[srry for all the ranting, but it just makes me mad. if no body took part in the "I HATE MCR WIVES AND FIANCES" parade, then good. i hate that. it's stupid and immature.

Kay, chillax. Everybody knows that they won't be lucky enough to marry Gerard or Mikey. We didn't need allyour ranting to understand that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.226.175.59 (talk) 18:41, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Change the photo already!!

Gerard has recently dyed his hair back to black again (as of his appearance on MTV, which can be viewed on YouTube with MCr performing "Dead!" and "Famous Last Words" from The Black Parade. The picture needs to be changed!!File:Http://file028b.bebo.com/0/mediuml/2007/01/04/17/2271190142a3075239309b923383635ml.jpg can someone do this for me i cant do it. and WE NEED A LONGER trivia section, i mean how can you get information, if theres hardly any. The Spanish version of this article is better. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by MuitoLocaNina (talk • contribs).

WP:BB --Jude 06:04, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

As I have stated many times before, before we can change the picture, we first need a reliable source to use as a citation for him having black hair, and second we need a picture that we have permission to use from the license holder. --Sadistic monkey 02:34, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Do we really need to find the latest picture every time he changes his hair style? I mean, look at the Mariah article! She's got like 10 year old hair there but it's still a good article.Nukleoptra 23:17, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Cleanup

This article needs a pretty big cleanup- I've already removed unnecessary sections (see page history) and added citationneeded tags at various points. The article also needs to read more like an encyclopedia, and most of the article needs to be sourced, as I said before. Some of the sections are also about My Chemical Romance and not Gerard- Discography and Lyrics, and Musical Influences and Tastes, however some of the material in these are relevant to him, it's just a matter of filtering the My Chemical Romance material and putting it in that article. I'll be working on this over the next few weeks, but please help! Other than that, it's looking good, and it's got a pretty thorough biography. It's now just a matter of the wording. CattleGirl ^{talk | sign!} 05:58, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Also, I think we need another blond picture of him at the top. The current one is small and he may have dyed his hair black for the New Years performance but that doesn't mean that is for the rest of the tour. Also the caption doesn't match the picture, an easy fix but I still think it should be a blond picture of him for right now.  Orfen ^{User Talk} | _Contribs 20:20, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Agreed- I don't think there's any recent pics of him with black hair anyway. I'm pretty sure it's black at the moment, but I could be wrong- we'll find out for certain at Big Day Out, at least, unless people can find pictures of him sooner? The most recent ones I can see are with short black hair. CattleGirl ^{talk | sign!} 08:51, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

I believe that it is black right now during Big Day Out. I believe so. But this isn't really part of their The Black Parade tour yet, so unless someone has something recent I'd try to go with a blond one.  Orfen ^{User Talk} | _Contribs 08:07, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

A minor detail- "charismatic" is spelled incorrectly in the trivia section Oroneko 06:11, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! Remember to be bold, though. I'll change it now.--Jude 20:59, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Well since its protected and Im still rather new, I cant change it. (curses!) Though uh- the s in charismatic was left out this time.

Ohhh I see, I'm sorry! Oh boy. I'll check it out lol, thanks again.--Jude 06:08, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Just thought, since the edit it disabled, i would put this section that needs a citation

" This event changed Way dramatically; he told Spin magazine, "I literally said to myself, 'Fuck art. I’ve gotta get out of the basement. I’ve gotta see the world. I’ve gotta make a difference!'"[citation needed] "

source: http://www.spin.com/features/magazine/covers/2005/05/05312005_mcr/ Mlfm256 02:06, 10 July 2007 (UTC)Mlfm256 you need to change it but not every time he gets a different one. just change it with the main ones. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.255.174.82 (talk) 17:12, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

picture (g, with black hair)

Some one change the picture because i dont know how to. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by MuitoLocaNina (talk • contribs) 01:02, 16 January 2007 (UTC).

The picture is pretty out of date, it's not recent at all. And by the way, whether it's a picture of him blonde or not, it doesn't really matter, it's him. True, he has dyed it back, but the fact is it's still him. A more recent photo, however, should be preferable. CattleGirl ^{talk | sign!} 08:46, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Not to be rude or anything, but if you want a newer pic of gerard, then why say you dont care if he has blond or black hair. He already died it black so im quite sure that any pic of him in blond hair is not a recent one.

(P.S)Does anyone know where he is in the current pic? Someone told me it was his house.

can u get a newer pic cause this 1 is off the 3 cheers album b4 the ghost of u and there r loads of modern pic of him

Sources

I've seen this major problem with pretty much every article related to My Chemical Romance -- people aren't sourcing! People are adding rumors and hearsay to the pages. Not just that, people are adding things that ARE the truth but aren't putting sources. We need to work on cleaning this up, in my opinion.

72.200.21.91 09:57, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm of the opinion that this entire article needs to be rewritten from the ground up. Apart from including details that are more suited for the My Chemical Romance article, it's badly formatted, badly laid out, and doesn't cite enough sources. illspirit|talk 10:46, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

I believe this page should be restricted to registered users only. There has been a lot of vandalism/guests placing false rumours; this isn't the playground, kids! Stop adding rumours to our factual pages. Unconscious 21:01, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately it seems that some people are registering in order to add rumours etc... it's not exactly difficult to register. Is there no way to restrict it to people who've been members for a certain amount of time? It's already semi-protected but it doesn't have the banner on it to say that - which I think is probably a good idea since it may deter people from joining just to edit. thefunkygibson 21:27, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Can i just say that u complain bout sourcing but u have that gerard was influnced to play guitar by billie joe armstrong i no that gerad can play bit if guitar but that was frank iero not gerard Frank the 1 that looks up to bilie not gerard \gerad more likes billy corgon so i may b wrong but u need to check on that 1 --86.133.220.185 20:08, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Er.. what? Unconscious [[User

Talk:Unconscious|(talk)]] 20:11, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

You got that gerard was influnced to play the guitar by billie joe.Billie joe didnt influnce Gerard to play guitar. Billie joe influced Frank iero. Billie joe influnced gerard into bein a rock star not playin the guitar like you hav writtian down. I am sorry if i am wrong but in interviews with mcr and they talk bout their influnces its frank that says he was influnced to play the guitar because of billie joe!--86.133.220.185 08:33, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

According to the following article, Billie Joe Armstrong did indeed influence him to play guitar. His quote from the interview: I always cite my influences as being the Misfits and the Smiths and the Cure; those artists inspired me to write music. But Billie Joe from Green Day influenced me to play guitar. http://www.mtv.com/bands/m/my_chemical_romance/news_feature_022805/ Stakore 03:19, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Citation Needed

What's with all the Citation Needed comments everywhere? Yes, I understand they're important, but the fact that he still smokes needs citation..? I understand that people need to be sure but if there's a citation for every single tiny detail there'll be more links than information on the page. =/

Since this is a biography article, and on a subject that is vandalized on a regular basis, if it sounds like it could be false it has to be cited. And the fact that he still smokes probably shouldn't be in there anyways, it's really trivial. It doesn't need to be on every little detail, but on a whole, we need to make sure that everything in the article is 100% fact.Darthgriz⁹⁸ 03:54, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Gerard way does smoke, but he has said in some magazine articlesthat he wants to give up.it was his new years resolution, but he failed. but he does smoke. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.20.187.128 (talk • contribs) 11:34, April 15, 2007 (UTC)

I'm afraid that's that's not a verifiable source, your statement there. Link us to information on the internet, and we can cite such information. However, I feel that whether he smokes or not is too trivial to be in this article. Unconscious 13:54, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Images of Gerard

A note to editors: images added to pages must have copyright tags and be free images. I have removed the image of Gerald since most likely it is not free and has no tags whatsoever. Darthgriz⁹⁸ 03:54, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Headline text

Romance

He has girl fiend named Arian

Please provide a source before requesting information to added or it will not be added.--Sadistic monkey 02:42, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

"girl fiend"? Sounds intense. Maybe people should spellcheck too :D --Yunaresuka 17:52, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

omg no he doesn't i wanna cry plus all his songs sound like he had a girlfriend but they broke up have you listened to his songs lateley???

Please sign your submissions, and use spellcheck. ;) Unconscious 18:13, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Art section

I moved the part about his art in the "background" information to the section for "art" which had previously been deleted I'm *guessing* due to lack of solid information. I figure that his artwork isn't really background since he is presently working on it, and I think it deserves its own space. If anyone disagrees, I'm open to change, just let me know!--Jude 22:29, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

The headline is "Art" when it's nothing about his Artwork. Shouldn't it be changed to something more suitable like "The Umbrella Academy"? Katmandu 18:55, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Wording

Since the edit summary was getting to be a bit long-winded. I reverted the following edits: found here because the wording is very awkward and I think it goes without saying. It seems slightly redundant and unnecessary to me, but the original editor disagrees reverting the edit, so I wanted to see what everyone else thought about it. Here is the original text before the edits:

As a child, Gerard came to the revelation that everyone he cares about will eventually die, and that he will die alone.

here is the text after the edits:

As a child, Gerard came to the revelation that everyone he cares about will eventually die, and that he will die alone, unless someone whom he cares about is still alive when he dies, or he and everyone he cares about die simultaneously.

Please let us both know what you think :). I added a "citation needed" because it might help us clear up what exactly Gerard said personally.--JUDE ^talk 23:10, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I liked the original sentence better. I agree about the second one being very redundant--it pretty much says that he'll die alone unless he's not alone :P --Yunaresuka 16:19, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm going to go ahead and change it since there are two of us who agree that the first is sufficient enough. Discussion is still open, as always, so anyone who disagrees or agrees, please leave it here!--JUDE ^talk 02:47, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

OK, I admit, I was taking the piss. If Gerard's realisation counts as a 'revelation' he must be a bigger cretin than I gave him credit for.

Eustace Plimsoll 09:31, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Um, a couple of weeks ago the die alone part wasn't even in there. Either way I doubt the factuality of it and if it even needs to go into the article, but the second is way too redundant and most likely vandalism or OR. Darthgriz⁹⁸ 01:11, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

I read the "die alone" part pre-redundancy on imnotokay.net, but it seemed like padding and filler to me. I don't really have an opinion on whether the realisation part stays or goes. I hadn't thought about it, to be honest. Whatever the editors think is appropriate is fine with me.--JUDE ^talk 02:09, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

i read in K! that he said that even if there were people all around him when he died that he would still be alone. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.20.187.128 (talk • contribs) 11:43, April 15, 2007 (UTC)

The Hair

The caption states "his new short hair", has he gone back to black? I thought he was staying with blond till the end of this tour. Shamess 10:09, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

He went back to black around Christmas. I'm pretty sure the first time people saw him with it was when MCR performed at New Year's on MTV. --Yunaresuka 15:45, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Well its still pretty new.. I put up that picture btw sonny moore fftl 05:01, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Just a heads up, your image needs to have a fair use rational and has to be a free image or it can't be on the page. Darthgriz⁹⁸ 03:58, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

He said in a K! interveiw that he went back to black because he felt like hewas loosing himself in the blond because it wasn't who he was. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.20.187.128 (talk • contribs) 11:44, April 15, 2007 (UTC)

Gee looks good with black or blonde hair. I personally think his white-blonde hair suits him and I also like it better short then long. LONG LIVE GERARD & HIS SEXY HAIR. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.36.223.213 (talk) 23:09, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

'Gothic House'

Fourth best-looking female??? Is that a joke?! Also, the house he grew up in was far from dark and gothic. That's making him out to be more 'street' or 'goth' or whatever than he actually is like Blur, Vanilla Ice and Lily Allen have done. And one more thing: why is there about as much on Bert McCracken than his whole musical career? Most people haven't heard of it; but nearly everyone's heard of MCR. The section could be trimmed down.Nukleoptra 23:14, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

The Fourth best looking female is actually true. It was part of a livejournal.com serge of votes. Your opinions are greatly valued, however do you have any sources to say that Gerard is pretending to be more than what he is "like Blur, Vanilla Ice, and Lily Allen have done"? I'm not saying that he hasn't, but such a strong opinion should be backed by a source before we could add it to the article. Thank you for your contribution to the discussion. I agree that the Bert feud should be trimmed down considerably.--JUDE ^talk 03:24, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm working on sources. Best looking female, though... that still makes me laugh. Well, he is effeminate so, it figures. Maybe there should be an expalanation for people who are confused when they read that bit.Nukleoptra 21:51, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah you're very right, I laughed pretty hard too. I hope he found it funny, as well. I'm working on digging up the link. There are a lot of entries in the livejournal.com community to go through and find it. Thanks for reminding me, though!--JUDE ^talk 22:28, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Married.

Ok, on the trivia section it says that in the 97.x radion station interview, he...he...FOUND SOMEONE SPECIAL!!! i saw the video too and it deeply deeply sadenned me.

He has a wedding ring on in the 'I Don't Love You (Like I Did Yesterday)'video.

Although he had a wedding ring on, most forums I've visited are in agreement that he's still single- he was single when the video was made, there hasn't been any news that he's got a girlfriend, let alone married. I think that was just for the video that he wore that ring (I think I read somewhere that it belonged to his grandmother Helena, but don't quote me on that) CattleGirl ^{talk | sign!} 01:32, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

He is not married. It is a purity ring. It is his grandmother's and it was given to Mikey by her. And Mikey decided to give it to Gerard. he isn't married. It is simply a purity/promise ring.--MCRluvr 05:11, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

The wedding ring was indeed his grandmothers. I forgot where I heard it from, but i do remember it being from a reliable source ^_^ and he used it because the meaning of the video is "love". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.201.220.94 (talk • contribs) 22:21, April 9, 2007 (UTC)

Actually, he wears it all the time. Like i said before you, it is a purity/promise ring. He wears it during concerts, interviews ect. And the song doesnt mean love, it means the loss of love, hence the line 'I dont love you' it is about Gerard breaking up with his girlfriend of about 6 years. --MCRluvr 05:11, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Truthfully, Gerard wrote the song long before he broke up with his girlfriend. It can be heard in the DVD Life on the Murder Scene. However, I don't see the big issue with the ring deal. Everyone needs to calm down and focus on making the article better. This isn't a forum.--JUDE ^talk 18:54, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Sorry to interupt but in a recent interview for 97X Gerard was asked what the gold band stood for and he said he found someone very special. Maybe the ring just means commitment. Boy, you guys like to jump to conclusions. The ring was not once his grandmothers, like a person above said they found out from a "reliable source". I suppose they didn't have a very reliable source after all. And I should really start logging in. -- 24.222.102.218 23:28, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

I know the song means loss of love, but i was just saying in general. And the reliable source I'm talking about was wikipedia after all, so yeah. And by the way, why did the trivia section dissapear?

The trivia section was removed because trivia sections are seen as unnecessary in good articles on Wikipedia, anything that is necessary will or already has been added to the article and should be in the future. Trivia sections also seem to be a dump for rumors and trivial (no pun intended) knowledge. Darthgriz⁹⁸ 23:03, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

if you go onto www.frank-iero.net, you will see that actually, he is engaged. He said so at an earlier show.

What show??? 195.72.234.172 06:19, 1 June 2007 (UTC)lolagirl

68.194.85.76 18:56, 2 July 2007 (UTC)Just to sum everything up, Gerard Way WAS engaged, as he announced on MTV in an interview(which you can find an article on mtv.com)(on whether its eliza or not: hereor here), but in a recent translated interview originally from a Norwegian site I found on Buzznet.com, he was asked about his engagement and said, "Actually, I'm not engaged anymore.. That's just something that happens." For more on this interview: GERARD IS NO LONGER ENGAGED from buzznet For the original Norwegian interview: click here On whether Gerard and his girlfriend are still together or not, we are not sure. All I know is that he is no longer engaged. -Paige, contact me on Myspace

he was actually recently married to Lyn-Z of Mindless Self Indulgence. there are two pictures of proof. they got together during the Projekt Revolution tour.

Gerard isn't married. in an interview in the german tv and in a magazine someone asked him: what do you think, do you wanna marry too? gee: no i dont wanna marry Interviewer: but not long ago you were engaged. whats happen? gee:thats right but i dont wanna talk about it, i hope you understand. it dont worked.. thats life it work or it dont work. maybe its.. because im difficault with realitionships...

okay.. i dont know if you understand it, 'Cause my english isn't very well... but...hmm...whatever

Where's Neil When You Need Him?

Gerard wrote the introduction to the 2006 Neil Gaiman tribute album "Where's Neil When You Need Him?" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.130.49.64 (talk) 00:54, 30 April 2007 (UTC). i love gerard way!

Possible Protection of Talk page

I have had several posts of mine vandalised, and I've noticed other user's posts changing to other things also. The last section I have had vandalised was the following:

I vote emo; but a personal point of view is meaningless when it comes down to a factual biography, so I best leave it up to you guys. Unconscious 14:29, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Just to let UNCONSCIOUS know: MCR IS NOT EMO. Gerard has stated he thinks "Emo is effing garbage." MCR doesn't want to be categorized as emo. And if you hate the band, get off their discussion page. MCR fans visit sites about them. People that don't like MCR and visit their sites have no life. How about you go out get one and get off MCR's case. They wouldn't value your opinoin anyways. You're not a fan. I am a fan and have seen countless interviews. Also, I have been to one of their concerts. MCR does not believe violence is a solution for anything. They believe violence doesn't work. They don't believe that you should be unhappy and should get help if something is bothering you. Another thing, MCR's fans are definetly not all emo. They have fans of all ages and different styles. You don't have to be emo to listen and really enjoy MCR's alternative/punk rock music. They always have been and always will be amazing. I bet they've changed peoples lives. IN A POSITIVE WAY. They're so inspiring. As a person, I am not emo and I love their music. The Black Parade was so full of life. The topics of the CD (life, death, and love) are what everything's all about. Death is not a negative thing. Everybody will have a time and place for it. If you bring it upon yourself, shame on you. Humans were created to enjoy every aspect of life. So, enjoy it! Gerard, Mikey, Frank, Bob, and Ray don't make their music to depress people. They make it to express themselves and let others enjoy their life stories. And they're amazing at that. -- mcr fan♥

i know this is wrong, butI vote emo; im just a stupid retard. but a personal point of view is meaningless when it comes down to a factual biography, so I best leave it up to you guys. Unconscious 14:29, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

The vandalism was carried out by user 71.193.159.202.

To prevent further vandalism, perhaps the talk page should be protected from newly registered users? I'd like to add, that it wouldn't be a bad idea to add a semiprotect to the main article, also, as that has been subject to vandalism many times in the past. Unconscious 13:43, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

' I shall request a semiprotect to the main article, as there hasn't been any objections. please post here if you have any. The article has been subject to much vandalism, and a semiprotect cannot do any harm. Unconscious 22:28, 5 June 2007 (UTC)'

Aye, I'd second the idea of protecting this talk page as well, for even before I came here to post this message, I found and edited out some slanderous looking WikiCode from near the top of the page. :-|

I actually came to this section as I was looking to discuss protection of the main article itself and not the talk page, so I have changed the heading of this section to reduce ambiguity and confusion. :-)

Hyperspeed - 13th February 2008CE - 00:40 UTC

Engaged?

On frank-iero.net, on the date May 23, it reads "yes, Gerard is enagaged to Eliza" That is Eliza Cuts. Can anybody confirm this as true? That website is not an official fansite. -- Christa

I haven't heard anything, so I say it's not true. However, I'm not a Gerard Fan... but the children in my school would have said something at least... If there is no official annoucement, then as far as we know, it's not true.Unconscious 11:06, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah that's what I thought. He is super-loyal with his fans and he would have mentioned that earlier. There's been rumors he's engaged to that Eliza girl since last year! Thanks ! --Christa

I just saw a video, of the day I went to the concert at the st pete times forum and someone asked him what was with the ring he had on and he siad he had just found someone very special and that is where he want it to end!! I think we should just respect the mans privacy and when he is ready to say anything about it he will... The video link is http://youtube.com/watch?v=a3guiCm-lA8 There is also a part 2 you can find in related videos!! -- Kirsten (May 30, 2007)

I hope he's not engaged...rumor has it that it's just publicity to take out rumors that he's gay --Christa

Actually a friend told me they read in Kerrang! that he's engaged but he didn't say who he was engaged to. --Mandy9876

- He is engaged. He confiremed this in an MTV interveiw. The mystrery women is beleived to be Eliza Cuts from the WMHC, however this is purely speculation.

http://www.mtv.co.uk confirms the rumors he is engaged. Her is name is unknown too...it's not Eliza, however. She insults the band a lot in her buzznet, and i don't think Gerard would marry someonewho insults the band he created.. --Steph

Unbelievable!!I can't believe it's Eliza who he is getting married too...eww. she is so ugly!!! --Dione

Well, you're ugyl, too. LOL how about spell check?

A few sites say that Gerard is engaged but only three that I found say Eliza. And they all say the exact same thing word to word. I thought it was illegal to do that...

And, plus, those sites aren't that reliable. The ones that are, like MTV UK, Kerrang! and NME, don't mention a name. 24.222.102.218 16:59, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Completely true. Those are not reliable websites. Maybe HE will confirm later. --Trixie

Well, I thought Gerard got married in September of 2007 to a girl named Lyn-Z. Who is also in a band. But I forget what one. Apparently, they met on tour. Also, it doesn't matter if she's drop dead gorgeous or butt ugly! If she makes Gerard happy, then that's all that matters. He deserves the best and what makes him happy is the best. He's been through so much.. But he's managed to pull through. He needs somebody who is supportive and makes him happy. He definetly deserves it. And obviously Gerard's not gay if he's married to a girl. Perhaps bisexual? Although, there's no proof. It doesn't matter anyways. Everybody is different and should be accepted for who they are. -- mcr fan♥ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.226.183.97 (talk) 22:10, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

68.194.85.76 18:55, 2 July 2007 (UTC)Just to sum everything up, Gerard Way WAS engaged, as he announced on MTV in an interview(which you can find an article on mtv.com)(on whether its eliza or not: hereor here), but in a recent translated interview originally from a Norwegian site I found on Buzznet.com, he was asked about his engagement and said, "Actually, I'm not engaged anymore.. That's just something that happens." For more on this interview: GERARD IS NO LONGER ENGAGED from buzznet For the original Norwegian interview: click here On whether Gerard and his girlfriend are still together or not, we are not sure. All I know is that he is no longer engaged. -Paige, contact me on Myspace

Photo updates

As much as I LOVE checking this page every day to see all the photo changes, I wish people would stop putting up old pictures of him when there are thousands of current ones available. I see the one that's on there right now is from the 2006 Warped tour (That's three hairstyles ago, for those of you who track time that way), while the one before that was from 2007. Can't anything be put in place to keep people from changing the photo all willy-nilly?

Because I'm having a really hard time overcoming the temptation to replace it with his high school photo.Crossbow1 19:10, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree. There has been many photo changes. Stop changing the pesky photo, and leave it as it is. How about, instead of messing about with your photo, you try and verify all of the claims made on the page? I still think it should be semiprotected. Unconscious 22:34, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

In one of the interviews (used to be in the interview section of the article) that he lately he found someone very special. And in another website I visited, which I cannot cite, says that at a show he said he was engaged. And the speculation about it being a purity ring was said by the bandmates to hide the fact he was engaged until later....

I am not entirely sure. --71.211.71.212 21:29, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

CITATIONS NEEDED

I have just added a bunch of "Citation Needed"s to the article on claims that will need backing up with legit sources. This does not include MTV webpages. If in the next 3 weeks, sources are not found for each alert, I shall remove all unsourced material.' All supposed 'quotes' need citations. You cannot quote him on anything, unless you have proof that he had honestly said it. Furthermore, please do not cite celebrity gossip webpages, or a website that isn't notable. That is just as bad as not having a citation at all. I apologise for the mess of the main article, the citations alerts needed to be added for every claim I could find, that requires a source. Cheers.

Furthermore, (http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/way%20confirms%20engagement_1032911) I personally, do not consider that a notable source. The information provided is barely anything, and from the looks of the website, it is not particulary notable. How about we await a *real* annoucement from Gerard Way, before we even mention an engagement? Unconscious 22:21, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

How about we remove that he is enagaged to Eliza Cuts, just say he's enagaged, and put the reliable sources like MTV UK, NME, and Kerrang? I have the articles right here.

http://www.mtv.co.uk/channel/mtvuk/01062007/exclusive_my_chemical_romance_singer_engaged

http://www.nme.com/news/my-chemical-romance/28701

http://www2.kerrang.com/2007/06/gerard_way_gets_engaged.html

Just a suggestion. 24.222.102.218 21:51, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree, I have removed the Eliza Cuts reference TWICE, but someone keeps editing it back in. Keep an eye on the history, so we can find the culprit. Unconscious 20:16, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

It has been around 2 and a half weeks since I originally made this section, and not a single citation has been added in. Therefore, once the article is unlocked, I shall remove all unsourced information. If you have any objections, please post here. Unconscious 15:35, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Just thought, since the edit it disabled, i would put this section that needs a citation.

" This event changed Way dramatically; he told Spin magazine, "I literally said to myself, 'Fuck art. I’ve gotta get out of the basement. I’ve gotta see the world. I’ve gotta make a difference!'"[citation needed] "

source: http://www.spin.com/features/magazine/covers/2005/05/05312005_mcr/ Mlfm256 02:13, 10 July 2007 (UTC)Mlfm256

I have a reliable source. A reliable one. It says Gerard is no longer engaged. Here: http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,22055675-5003421,00.html

So, there, you are wrong. The engagement is off. It can be cited. Katmandu 18:48, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and, By the way... It says under References "ImNotOK.net" when it should be "ImNotOkay.net". You don't want to give false information. Katmandu 18:52, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Kitty?

"The song, “Demolition Lovers”, is said to be about Gerard's former girlfriend Kitty, based on a dedication in the CD booklet."

I thought the dedication only said "To K". No where at any time did Gerard mention someone named "Kitty". Kitty isn't even a real name. 24.222.102.218 21:58, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

It does say "K" and it's not even a dedication, nust a note. It says: "To K: I'm sorry I wrote all this stuff about killing you. I hope the last song makes up for it." (Aw, so romantic!) Crossbow1 17:19, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

--Her name is Katamundo, aka kitty. -Christa

No one has ever been able to verify that. Crossbow1 03:17, 14 June 2007 (UTC)\

actually on Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge he thanks a girl named Katamundo; which begins with a K. helena0x013 (UTC)

--Some hard-hitting proof you've got there. A lot of names start with a K. And actually, the name/nickname mentioned in the thank-you notes is Katmandu. -tyvm

The song was dedicated to his ex-girlfriend Kim. the K stood for Kim. end of story.

Engagement Video

Okay, here's the link to the video when Bob tried to cover up for Gerard's engagement : http://youtube.com/watch?v=jSCZVYoXG8Y it's actually hilarious what Bob says...maybe it could help in the article. --Christa

No more help than our other sources, sorry. It doesn't name any names, so it's nothing new, really. Unconscious 23:05, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Okay...I read in www.frank-iero.net that Gerard proposed to Eliza on her birthday. --Christa

What was their source for that? Crossbow1 03:14, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, apparently the editor Cody is somehow close to the band. I guess it was just him who knew that.---Christa

Sorry, then it's not a reputable source, and it's merely a rumour. This 'Eliza Cuts', as of yet, is just a rumour. It has not been confirmed by Gerard, he only stated that he's met someone special. Not that he's engaged-- merely that he's met someone special. To whom, however, he has not said. The main article is locked due to spam about Eliza Cuts, we don't really need any more rumours to add to it, Thanks. Unconscious 15:05, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Actually in that video, he does confirm that he is engaged. He doesnt say to who, but he states that he IS engaged. [my screen name is MCRluvr, just dont feel like logging in]--68.6.250.16 22:42, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Gerard WAS engaged too Eliza but now the engaged is called OFF

Eliza Cuts

There are NO SOURCES to verify that Eliza Cuts is Gerards fiance. Stop editing the page with spam like that, I have added a warning to the Music section, and any more edits regarding Eliza Cuts will be considered vandalism.

Actual Edit: "Note to Editors: Eliza Cuts is a rumor, and nothing more. It cannot be added to the Wikipedia article, as it's not verifiable. Please do not edit. This is your only warning, if there are anymore edits about Eliza Cuts, or possible girlfriends, it WILL be treated as vandalism."Unconscious 12:20, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Page is now fully protected due to repeated addition of 'Eliza Cuts' and developing edit war.Unconscious 14:03, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Eliza is known to be Gerards Girlfriend. She has a lot of people hating on her and people in the circle have posted dtuff on the message boards and groups saying how much they hate her! I believe Eliza is gerards girlfriend. He just doesnt like to talk about his personal life other than he has found somebody special. I was just pointing this out ~Kirsten~ 1:01am, 17 June 2007

Eliza is known to be Gerard's girlfriend? Who says?! If it's that true, how come it's not sourced anywhere that is reputable? If he doesn't want to talk about his relationships, then Wikipedia won't add it to their pages. It would, AFAIK, constitute as harassment. "The Circle", might I ask, what is "the circle", surely you don't mean Gerard Way's close friends? Please note: You believe Eliza Cuts is Gerard's girlfriend. Belief is not enough to make it into a factual biography. Unconscious 20:34, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Eliza has been photographed with Gerard. Clearly that means she is his girlfriend. Based on that evidence, Gerard is also dating the Mikey, Ray, Bob, Matt, and Frank - especially Frank - and the entire MCRmy. Crossbow1 21:52, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

68.194.85.76 18:58, 2 July 2007 (UTC)Just to sum everything up, Gerard Way WAS engaged, as he announced on MTV in an interview(which you can find an article on mtv.com)(on whether its eliza or not: hereor here), but in a recent translated interview originally from a Norwegian site I found on Buzznet.com, he was asked about his engagement and said, "Actually, I'm not engaged anymore.. That's just something that happens." For more on this interview: GERARD IS NO LONGER ENGAGED from buzznet For the original Norwegian interview: click here On whether Gerard and his girlfriend are still together or not, we are not sure. All I know is that he is no longer engaged. -Paige, contact me on Myspace

i saw this picture on photobucket where he's kissing Lyn-Z from mindless self indulgence....can someone help clear this up because i'm confused... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.16.208.79 (talk) 00:21, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

Oh geeze, people! Please give the poor man a break. It's his personal life and when he's ready he'll tell the fans, but until then be patient and don't start rumors. Be respectful to MCR and the other people in their lives. Besides, if he was engaged you should be happy for him. It's not like any of us will be marrying so stop living in your little fantasy lands. -concerned MCR fan

You all want proof

http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/44170776

Read that! It tells he is ENGAGED!!! ~Kirsten~ 17 June 2007

• sighs* We know he's engaged. It's to who that the big fuss is about. Unconscious 09:14, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Why does it matter!

why does it matter if he is engaged or not, or who he is engaged to?

the circle..thing is probably just some fan based hate site that are jealous because gerard is marrying someone else..and not them. and the eliza cuts thing. i think that fans should stop trash talking about her because 1 neitheir them or their freinds know the truth about wether she is engaged to him or not. and 2 so what if she is and so if she isn't. gerard can choose to marry who he wants when he wants. but don't post things when you don't have the facts Pete_wentzluvor 05:58, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

The facts are here , here, here, and here

And judging by your name I think it's safe to say that you'd be doin the same thing if Pete Wentz was engaged.

Sadly it might interest fans to know (least I hope it saddens yous for Gerards sake)that he is no longer engaged. He made it clear in a Norwegian interview about a week ago.

GerardsLastWords 02:09, AM 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Unprotection

I've unprotected the article. Please avoid edit-warring, and discuss proposed changes and disputes on the talk page. MastCell ^Talk 23:01, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, will do. Thank you. :) Unconscious 08:19, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Though edit-warring is certainly not an ideal approach to fine-tuning a biographical wiki, some users are persistent in their efforts to include rumors regarding Gerard Way's relationship with Eliza Cuts (without reliable sources, or courses). We shouldn't be hesitant to strip these away to avoid edit-warring. Stakore 03:32, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Deleting Uncited Information

I am going to delete all uncited information today. It's been around 2 and a half weeks since I posted the section on the talk page asking for sources to be stated. So I feel that 2 and a bit weeks is a long enough opportunity to edit in all existing sources. I'm going to assume the rest is uncitable information, so I will remove it. Instead of creating an edit war, please contact me if you object. You've had nearly three weeks to object, and you didn't, so I assume I'm able to do this as there have been no objections. Unconscious 08:35, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Uncited information has now been deleted. Please help perform a clean-up, and cite any statements that could do with a reference. Unconscious 08:43, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

I just deleted the "is engaged to be married to eliza cuts". Can you put protection in this page?? --Christa

Requested it. Waiting for an admin's decision. The amount of vandalism is insane. It's all the little kids visiting the page, I swear. Unconscious 08:34, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Semi protection was denied. We'll have to just put up with reverting vandalism. Unconscious 10:21, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Okay, where is the first part of this article??? User:FendiCatz

I fixed the first part. User:FendiCatz

hmmm... well if you can't protect it ignore it...i know this is a

"suppose to be help site" but if they want reasonable answers they're going to have to stop asking truculant questions...just ignore it. only answer the question that have citations, all those little children are doing is making this wiki a hasioan for spam. Panicdork911 3:39, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

It is now protected, thank god. PS: Wikipedia is not a help site. They are misusing this site also as much as if I was to go around on dictionary.com and ask for help with a video game! Unconscious (talk) 09:05, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Everybody, somebody wrote "And is deathly afraid of needles..secretly a gentleman". I really don't think that belongs here, but now the article is protected...User:FendiCatz

Just removed it- thanks. CattleGirl ^talk 11:33, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

If they do it again, request blocking. I had warned this user for vandalism before, I believe. Unconscious (talk) 11:47, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks User:FendiCatz

Picture

Okay, maybe this article could use a picture or two. The one it has is three hairstyles ago. Maybe we can find a new one. How do you upload a picture?? User:FendiCatz

I already uploaded one and changed it, and got snapped at, so I won't be doing that again anytime soon.

This article has a picture. It does not need another, and it is not worth the hassle. Unconscious (talk) 16:36, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

But that's a very old picture! User:FendiCatz

If you have a good quality picture with all the correct licensing and copyright info, go right ahead :). It's just hard to find pictures like that. CattleGirl ^talk 06:48, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

May I add, if you're not sure about the copyright status of the image, do not upload it. Perform background checks on the image before you upload it. I'm not one for uploading images, so I can't fill you in on much detail, other than you will need to supply the correct copyright information or else it might get removed by the administrators. Unconscious (talk) 14:57, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Can people seriously source the info they put on the article, i've never heard of the name, morgan mckenzie, so if you want to keep that up there, provide reliable sources, and stop vandalising!

GERARD IS FREAKIN SEXY!!! ^ It's fangirls. Ignore them -- I'll request SemiProtection again if it gets too bad. Unconscious (talk) 11:14, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Engaged

my friends tommy and paige told me yesterday that they found something on myspace that says Gerard Way is engaged to someone named Brenna. who is Brenna? is this true? someone find out please!!! User: Cobritanntiraie 05:15, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Okay, not trying to be rude at all but. Where have you been for the past month? Gerard announce his engagement to an unknown girl about three weeks ago. But then, about less then a week ago, he said in a Norwegian interview that he was and i quote "Actually, I am no longer engaged...that's just something that happens." So, we dont know if he is still with thi smystery girl. But whoever she is, she isnt engaged to Gerard anymore. This is however the first time that I have heard Brenna, I heard Eliza Cuts, but not brenna. Hope this helps. BTW-this isnt a forum.--MCRluvr 09:07, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

I actually heard about someone named Brenna too but that was along time ago like two months ago. why are you bringing this up? its really late... he said he is not engaged anymore so even if he WAS engaged to this unknown girl he isn't anymore. i agree withMCrluvr on the fact of where have you been..lol mychemfan132

He is not engaged. It is a purity ring. It is his grandmother's and it was given to Mikey by her. And Mikey decided to give it to Gerard. he isn't married. It is simply a purity/promise ring

Stop using the talk page as a forum. It does not matter whether or not he is engaged. We are keeping that out of the article, and mentioning it like this (taking up many sections about it) is spam. I wish not to give any of you formal warnings, however, this ends here. Unconscious (talk) 20:40, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't know whether this is relevant to the article or not but I noticed that no one seems to have posted about this. Gerard's no longer engaged (yes make the teenage girl girls now) so I just thought I'd source it. I didn't want to post it on the article yet in case it wasn't useful.

This is the best source I can get. But it's pretty reliable since that one came from ImNotOkay.net

I had sourced my posting back up yonder about his engagement (when he let the cat out of the bag).

So I guess this all means, in summary, he was engaged, he announced his engagment and now it's off. All of it sourced! NOW it all ends

That post is from a forum. It is not reliable. I also do not consider ImNotOk to be a reliable source either, due to it deals with a lot of spam.

I asked for the discussions regarding Eliza Cuts, Brenna, or anyone like that to stop, however, they've persisted. If you cannot post a reliable source, meaning something like an verifiable interview by Gerard, then it is a rumour, and not reliable, according to Wikipedia policy. He has not announced any engagement, at least not one we can verify, the only information we can get regarding the ring is that it was his grandmother's, and was given to him. That seems to be more believable than all this fangirl rubbish going around saying he's engaged.

He is not engaged.

He is not involved with Eliza Cuts, or Brenna.

It ends here. There has been enough posts on the subject. Unconscious (talk) 13:00, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

[1] Will this do?

No. Notice the 'reportedly'. Yet another source that verifies that it is a rumour, and nothing more. Wait until Gerard himself makes an announcement. Personally, I'd rather not hear another thing about this matter. Unconscious (talk) 20:49, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

If Gerard is involved with anyone, he probably won't come out with it because of s*** like this. Let the man live his life.

I think it should be noted that you were incorrect in your assertion (which was rather harshly worded) that Gerard was not engaged, and that this was merely 'fangirl rubbish.' And merely reporting his engagement, which he admitted himself in an interview over a month ago, is not preventing him from 'living his life.'

I must insist that this petty debates ends here. It's not verifiable, therefore, is not of Wikipedia's standards. End of. Unconscious (talk) 08:51, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

I disagree. Though I personally don't think Gerard's wiki needs to include his recent engagement, your assertion that it is not verifiable is incorrect. In addition to the interview linked above in which Gerard discusses the ending of his engagement, there are several video clips of Gerard himself admitting his engagement: [2] I think these kinds of things ought to be researched rather than dismissed as "fangirl rubbish."

They have been investigated, and it had been decided that the sources are not reliable. I hardly trust a Norwegian website about America news. If they were engaged, or broke up, surely there would be something on mychemicalromance.com? If something needs to be *researched* in order to prove it's verifiability or authenticity, then it is not a adequate source. Unconscious (talk) 08:57, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't know what 'Norwegian website' you're referring to. I linked to an interview discussed in an Australian article in which Gerard mentions his broken engagement. Also, Gerard himself acknowledged his engagement in several taped interviews, videos of which are available online (also linked above). Is Gerard himself not an authentic enough source to prompt Wikipedia staff to drop the 'fangirl rubbish' label? Also can't forget NME [3]. And by the way, research is the cornerstone of Wikipedia. Bold assertions shouldn't be made without it.

he is not engadged he said it himself he said "i told all the magazines that toget rid ofthe rumor that im gay" is that good enough for you 72.144.112.213 21:41, 27 July 2007 (UTC)gerardway0409

People are claiming he did a interview with a Norwegian site, regarding the engagement. He never said he was actually engaged, merely that he has 'met someone special'. He never claimed it was Eliza Cuts, or anyone else. I'm starting to doubt whether he even said 'I've met someone special', with the amount of rumours flying all around the place. There are very few mainstream websites have sections up about Gerard's engagement. There is a lot of uncertainty regarding this. It is best to leave it until an official announcement from Gerard is made ("I am engaged to Mary Poppins") instead of assuming. I have also heard on some reputable websites that the ring is not an engagement ring, but his grandmother's, Elena Lee Rush. There is too much uncertainty regarding the matter to put it up on Wikipedia. At least, that is my view. We ought to get a second opinion, and possibly make it a majority-rule situation. I say Do not Add Unconscious (talk) 07:51, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

The link above contains a clip from MTV2 in which Gerard discusses his ring and his engagement. He states clearly that he is (at the time of the taping) engaged. I fail to see any ambiguity.

He may have stated that he is engaged, but for now, I believe it is best to stay out of the article, for vandalism-related reasons. We cannot say anymore other than 'Gerard is Engaged'... I cannot find any video with him confirming the relationship, but as of yet, it looks legit. We shall wait to get other editor's opinions on this matter. I also think it'd be a great idea if you were to register, too. Many more features are available to you once you have created an account. Also, please may you sign your posts using the ~~~~, at the end of your sentences, so I can tell others users apart from you. Unconscious (talk) 20:15, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

I've noticed someone has tried to spark off an edit war by putting in the engagement information before the issue has been decided. As of yet, until a final decision is made, we shall not put anything about the engagement on the article. For starters, the source stating they had broken up had little to do with a breakup, but more so settling down instead of constantly being on the move. I find it hard to believe that he got engaged, and broke up, in the period of about a month, and we still don't have any names. For this reason, I personally, I'm going to dismiss it as a rumour. If it is edited back in, I shall ask for administrator guidance as to our next course of action. I do not find that the source is reputable, and it seems to be, me and 'anonymous' are the only users editing the page, or checking the talk page at the present. Unconscious (talk) 16:43, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

not a reliable, or is it? [[[:

http://joromime.buzznet.com/user/photos/?id=7392131

this is a link that shows gerard broke up with his girlfriends read the interveiw it tells you. Dead4liike10 August2, 2007 6:25pm

The grammar is atrocious, and the picture could easily be faked. However, we'll keep that link in mind, if we decide to cite it. We'll wait for more reliable websites to appear, first. Wait until MTV has something about it. EDIT: Looking at that, it appears to be a user profile, or a user image gallery. It is against Wiki policy to cite such pages. Unconscious (talk) 09:40, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

THE ENGADGEMENT IS DONE AND OVER WITH. DELETE THIS POST. IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE UP. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.10.121.33 (talk) 17:37, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject class rating

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summit, nj??? when was he born in summit nj??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.185.126.51 (talk) 01:03, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Possible marriage to Lyn-z

93.3 in Colorado is reporting via their website that Gerard Way and Lyn-Z of Mindless Self Indulgence have wed. The announcement includes two pictures of the purported wedding ceremony. http://area93.com/pages/Nerf.html Discuss. 75.68.171.197 05:30, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Rumour. Wait until Gerard himself makes an announcement. Unconscious (talk) 07:03, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

there's pictures of him kissing her at projekt revolution. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.60.201.13 (talk) 14:21, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Kissing is not wiki-worthy. However, other news sources are now starting to report the wedding, so a few more confirmations and this may be ready for wiki prime time. 75.68.171.197 18:02, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Perezhilton.com reported it too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.74.141.22 (talk) 22:00, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Perezhilton isn't a news source... it's an online celebrity gossip blog. But the Arapahoe County website now has their marriage licences listed, and MTV has announced it as well http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1568923/20070905/winehouse_amy.jhtml Not a rumor. 75.68.171.197 02:16, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Treat this rumour with extreme prejudice. It does *not* go in the article, until a reliable source could verify that it is fact, not fiction. It has been removed three times now. As much as others will disagree, I do not consider MTV to be a reliable source for recent events regarding celebrities. If MTV was right all the time, Gerard's been married about three times now. Unconscious (talk) 08:38, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Further confirmations of Gerard's marriage to LynZ:

http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/47601859 http://www.chartattack.com/damn/2007/09/0510.cfm http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2007/09/05/metallica-neil-young-eddie-vedder-and-more-to-play-bridge-school-benefit-amy-winehouse-emerges-at-mercury-prize-ceremony-mcrs-gerard-way-marries-at-impromtu-wedding/ 195.157.154.166 09:46, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Are public records not reliable? Arapahoe County document number B7113964 is the marriage license of BALLATO LINDSEY ANN and WAY GERARD ARTHUR. This is part of the legal public record, and confirms the media reports of their marriage. 75.68.171.197 03:59, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm guessing that the actual records would be reliable, but all anyone's seen is screen captures of them. Crossbow1 23:58, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Like most US counties, Arapahoe has a website which has a public records search function. The marriage certificates are both there. These are not screen captures. Gerard Way and Lindsay Ballato are married, folks. Time to move on. 132.198.140.34 22:18, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

I checked the office of the clerks website for Arapahoe county and while there is a record of a marraige license it also says in large red letters at the top that it is not official information, and that in order to get the official information you would have to go to the Clerk's office. So unless someone is willing to go to Colorado, this seems to be another dead end. Oroneko 23:45, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

He isn't married...gerard said in an interview: i dont wanna marry... and that he isn't engaged 'cause it don't work with eliza but there are friends...poor gerard. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.16.211.99 (talk) 11:29, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

he said he's married in a recent NME interview, November 15. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2C2UAzqk6c helena0x013 (UTC)

Im pretty sure Gerard Way is now married. And it is to Lyn-Z (MSI). There are pictures of them together and at the ceremony —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.77.99.77 (talk) 17:04, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Hey, I have a copy of Gerard and Lyn-Z's marriage certificate. It's true, they are married. they got married on Semptember 4th of last year. okay? now delete the post. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.10.121.33 (talk) 17:38, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Comic Credits

The article mentions that Way was working in the "comic industry" before starting his band, but there are no details given. It might be handy, I think, to have some information on what exactly this work was. Did he have any published work, or was he into self-publishing? Kelvingreen 07:20, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

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The article says that Gerard is born in Summit. It's wrong, he's born in Newmark! Can someone please change it so it says Newmark? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.224.56.115 (talk) 18:58, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

--is there even a place called newmark? i think the name you were looking for was NEWARK. -tyvm ps: why is this under 'comic credits?'?

Catholic

I've seen him described as Catholic on a number of sites. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.241.246.168 (talk) 03:58, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

he is he had the word catholic written on his neck a few times —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.215.43.104 (talk) 20:45, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

What does this have to do with the price of tea in China? Crossbow1 (talk) 05:44, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Guest Appearances

Should any mention be made of Gerards guests appearances on other bands albums(like has been done on the Patrick Stump article)?

I know he has made appearances on Thursdays "Jet Black New Year" and Say Anythings "In Defence Of The Genre". Kokiri kid (talk) 03:06, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

He has also appeared on "Kill The Music" by Every Time I Die. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.197.93.144 (talk) 06:48, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

<edited out fangirling>

Yeah, Gerard also appeared on The Oval Portrait's "Can't You Do Anything For Me", "Barnumus Collins Has More Skeletons In His Closet Than Vincent Price" and "From My Cold Dead Hands"

Also, Murder By Death's "The Devil In Mexico"

I have them all on my iPod. I'm at school, so I'll talk to you all later. :D —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.10.121.33 (talk) 17:41, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Better protection of main article?

Hi everyone! :-)

Just thought I would make a suggestion that the protection on this page be moved up a notch to "Admin only" or similar. The reason that I'm suggesting this is simply because - Although the page is currently protected from new users - I still wound up removing vandalism that had been placed there by another Wikipedia user that I came across whilst visiting the page to reference something else, and as MCR often get a lot of stick for being "Emo", just about any MCR-related page on Wikipedia could well be a prime target for vandalism. :-(

I'm hoping that this is an isolated incident (Just a random MCR-hater maybe?) but it does make me think that a lot of MCR-related pages could be vulnerable to vandalism from other Wikipedia users who have a disliking of the band, and protection from such things (As opposed to edit wars) might be a better solution, provided there are enough editors who are MCR fans available to keep the pages updated. :-)

I must admit that I'm one of the "other lot" (Someone who doesn't like MCR at all), but even then I'd sooner remove vandalism rather than forge it...Alas though, the majority of this "other lot" could possibly be a primary source of vandalism unless these pages are protected better... :-(

is he gay?

is he gay or straight? Madblast 17:29, 8 March 2008 (UTC) Hyperspeed (Talk) - 13th February 2008CE 01:48 UTC —Preceding comment was added at 01:47, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

• sigh*. He's married to a woman... icelandic hurricane #12_(talk) 17:35, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Being married to a woman doesn't mean anything. A lot of gay mean are married to women and even have children. He could be bisexual. I looked up quotes by Gerard Way (sorry, don't have a link.. just go to www.google.com and look up "Gerard Way Quotes" and you'll find a lot of hits.) One of them was, "When you're kissing a guy with a beard, it's different..." Also, another was something along the lines of, "One time Bert and I were making out for so long it wasn't even funny...But then it was." The last one I can think of about this topic was, "People don't know if I'm gay, straight, or an alien from outer space... It's funny." Gee's so funny. & PS. Bert is the singer for the band "The Used".