Talk:William Kidd
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The dates I used were from The Pirate Hunter which is already cited in the article and is a biography on Kidd.--Drake44444 08:31, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
By the way, someone needs to remove some of those unneeded internal links, per MoS. I'd do it myself but at the moment I have no time. --Every1blowz 07:54, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
Drake44444, please cite your sources in the references section, otherwise there is no way for people to verify the dates you've entered. The dates I used in the article are all from the book Pirates of the Spanish Main, but if you have reason to believe that this book is inaccurate and your sources are better then please cite them. Thanks. --Every1blowz 07:51, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
This article is so full of inaccuracies it is unbelievable. Kidd should not be classified entirely as a pirate, and the circumstances of his pirate hunting voyage are wrong. There are also problems with dates, that I have tried to correct, and chronology. I will be working to improve this article more shortly. --Drake44444 20:09, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
Should Kidd be described as a pirate? I was under the impression that his role as a pirate in actual history (not legend) was a matter of dispute.
No, you're right. Kidd wasn't a pirate; he was merely an inept pirate-catcher. He was wealthy, so there would have been no reason for him to turn to piracy. Though it's true he was hanged as a pirate, in point of fact he was framed. The trial was a travesty. The evidence needed to clear him was concealed by the prosecution, and found after his death. Today it can be viewed in the London Hall of Public records.
-c.neron
Birthplace
OK, I don't have any book in front of me, but I am going to question the change from Dundee to Greenock as his birthplace. Can somebody get a 'final' answer? I see references to both in Google, main reference for Dundee is here. -- RevRagnarok 04:48, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
[1] Official Website of Greenock. Captain Kidd was born here, Dundee is shit.
- It would explain why he left
Last Words
hey does anybody know what Captain Kidd's LAST WORDS were??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.253.83.79 (talk • contribs)
"Fuck Paisley" if I remember correctly.
"My name was Captain Kidd, when I sail'd, when I sail'd, And so wickedly I did, God's laws I did forbid, When I sail'd, when I sail'd. I roam'd from sound to sound, And many a ship I found, And then I sunk or burn'd, When I sail'd. I murder'd William Moore, And laid him in his gore, Not many leagues from shore, When I sail'd. Farewell to young and old, All jolly seamen bold, You're welcome to my gold, For I must die, I must die. Farewell to Lunnon town, The pretty girls all round, No pardon can be found, and I must die, I must die, Farewell, for I must die. Then to eternity, in hideous misery, I must lie, I must lie." It was what i found for his last words — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.59.178.86 (talk • contribs)
Acooring to Zacks' book, Capt. Kidd didn't say anything as last words
Captain Kidd Treasure Reference
Hampton Star --MichaelGray 13:09, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
- Please put the references in the main article, not the talk page. — RevRagnarok Talk Contrib Reverts 13:28, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Not a Pirate
We currently have this sentence in the first paragraph: It is more likely that Kidd earned his reputation through circumstance and did not consider himself to even be a pirate. Is this a settled matter? I believe this is a controversial subject, and I'm not sure we need take a stand on the issue. (BTW, I agree that the evidence is compelling in this case, I just don't think we should portray it as a settled issue.) Does anyone have a reason this should stay? Levi P. 04:46, 27 August 2006 (UTC)