Talk:Hiawatha (train)

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We'll need some citations for those "120 mph" claims.

Exile 22:44, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This looks more realistic

http://librarydust.typepad.com/library_dust/files/milwaukeerail.doc

103 mph achieved on a test run

http://www.germansteam.co.uk/FastestLoco/fastestloco.html?

Evidence of 112.5 mph with dynanometer car

However - the Hiawathas were the fastest SCHEDULED steam trains ever and perhaps this should be emphasised rather than uncorroborated claims for the steam world speed record.

Strange that the present-day Hiawatha is a good 20 minutes slower than the 1930s version.

Exile 22:52, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hiawatha run 15 June 1937

A well known French train timer late Baron Gerard Vuillet travelled on the footplate on northbound Hiawatha and recorded in ordinary service speeds: Gurnee was pssed at 100 mph. Between Caledonia and Lake one mile 106 mph, average 101 mph for 8.5 miles. Between Okauchee and Oconomowoc 100 mph touched. Mauston passed 102 mph. Near New Lisbon 102 mph before stopping for three and half minutes to take water. Section Mac Coy - Sparta 4.8 miles was averaged at 100.8 mph, maximum 103 mph. La Crosse reached in 49 minutes 35 seconds after starting from Chicago. Locomotive used was 4-4-2 Atlantic Nr.4 and train load was 390 / 420 tons. The Hiawatha thus was the fastest steam-hauled train that ever run in ordinary service.