Talk:Hiawatha (train)

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We'll need some citations for those "120 mph" claims. Exile 22:44, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

This looks more realistic

103 mph achieved on a test run

Evidence of 112.5 mph with dynanometer car However - the Hiawathas were the fastest SCHEDULED steam trains ever and perhaps this should be emphasised rather than uncorroborated claims for the steam world speed record. Strange that the present-day Hiawatha is a good 20 minutes slower than the 1930s version. Exile 22:52, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Hiawatha run 15 June 1937[edit]

A well known French train timer late Baron Gerard Vuillet travelled on the footplate on northbound Hiawatha and recorded in ordinary service speeds: Gurnee was pssed at 100 mph. Between Caledonia and Lake one mile 106 mph, average 101 mph for 8.5 miles. Between Okauchee and Oconomowoc 100 mph touched. Mauston passed 102 mph. Near New Lisbon 102 mph before stopping for three and half minutes to take water. Section Mac Coy - Sparta 4.8 miles was averaged at 100.8 mph, maximum 103 mph. La Crosse reached in 49 minutes 35 seconds after starting from Chicago. Locomotive used was 4-4-2 Atlantic Nr.4 and train load was 390 / 420 tons. The Hiawatha thus was the fastest steam-hauled train that ever run in ordinary service. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:34, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Minor note[edit]

In reference to the "Amtrak" section at the bottom of the document, MSP/Midway is not normally a crew change location for Amtrak crews, as the document states. The closest thing to a crew change is during peak season, when the attendant for the CHI-MSP local coach detrains, spends the night, and returns the next morning on the eastbound train. Normal train and engine crew change points in the region are Winona MN (WIN), St Cloud MN (SCD), and Minot ND (MOT). -- an amtrak employee (talk) 03:26, 9 November 2009 (UTC)


An addition by (Farmington, MI , AT&T service provider, using WinXP) was removed. The addition to encyclopedic entry lacked citations and references (required). It appeared to be opinion in specific viewpoint (racism of train's name and marketing in 1950s), usage of Indian names in this 1950s period was common, and NOT specific to the Milwaukee Railroad's train.


What happened to the engines after their service ended? Scrapped or preserved? Mac Dreamstate (talk) 19:01, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

What a terrible shame. Much thanks for the prompt response, however. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 22:09, 9 August 2016 (UTC)