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pre-GA review

Lead

  1. Find information about the tagline and theme song, with reliable sources.
    There was no tagline or theme song. –LAX 19:48, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Oh, alright. iMatthew 2008 19:51, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Find information about the buyrate, and a reliable source.
    The buyrate should go in the aftermath. –LAX 19:48, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Ok, you're right. iMatthew 2008 19:51, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  3. The main event was an "I Quit" match for the WWE Championship between John Cena and John "Bradshaw" Layfield, which Cena won after Layfield quit as Cena was about to hit him with a large exhaust pipe - the sentence should end after which Cena won after Layfield, the rest are match notes and are included in the event section.
    LAX 19:48, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Wiki-link predominant and undercard.
    Card is linked to undercard, and there is no reason to link predominant. –LAX 19:48, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I didn't see that, ok. iMatthew 2008 19:51, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Background

  1. Every single date needs to be wiki-linked, and followed by a year. For example, it should be April 7, 2005 - and not just - April 7
    It doesn't need to be followed by a year, per MOS:NUM#Full date formatting. –LAX 19:55, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    A comment from Brian Kendrick's pre-GA reviewer said Dates without years – this is Wikipedia and thus very likely that it’ll be here in 2009-10 etc. so a date like “February 19” by itself isn’t good (the Feb 19 example isn’t even from 2008 it’s from his second independent circuit section) – all dates should have years with them to make them “future safe”. I don't know, maybe he was wrong. The review is found on the talk page. iMatthew 2008 20:04, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I would rather go by MoS then a reviewer. –LAX 20:07, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    As would I, I was just letting you know where that came from. iMatthew 2008 20:10, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Number One contender should be wiki-linked.
    To what? –LAX 20:08, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't know, but something should be found. iMatthew 2008 20:10, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  3. all demanded a title shot for the WWE title -- seems akward, maybe all demanded their own chance for a WWE title match.
    LAX 20:16, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Re-word During the match, it saw interference by Orlando Jordan and Eddie Guerrero to Orlando Jordan and Eddie Guerrero interfered in the match.
    LAX 21:09, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Moments afterwards sounds better as Moments later
    LAX 21:09, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  6. which resulted in Guerrero to attack JBL and break the pinfall, after Mysterio performed the 619 and covered JBL for the pin. needs to be re-worded and possibly made into two sentences.
    LAX 21:09, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  7. as he went onto defeat Guerrero - I think that should be on to instead of onto.
    LAX 21:09, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  8. On the April 21 edition of SmackDown!, Booker T and Big Show were booked in another series of contender match. - take out series of
    LAX 21:09, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  9. Which led to Teddy Long booking a Fatal Four-Way match the following week on SmackDown! - Change "which" to "that"
    LAX 21:09, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  10. The Fatal Four-Way match saw JBL as the winner and the Number One contender at Judgment Day for Cena's title, after he pinned Angle for the win - how about - The Fatal Four-Way match saw JBL pin Angle for the win to become the Number One contender for Cena's title at Judgment Day.
    LAX 21:09, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  11. Two weeks later, on the May 19 edition of SmackDown!, JBL faced Scotty 2 Hotty in a match. In which, Scotty won after JBL was disqualified for ignoring the referee's count those can be combined into one sentence.
    LAX 21:09, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  12. . After the match, JBL assaulted Scotty in which JBL demanded that Scotty say "I quit", but JBL continued his assaults as he choked Scotty with a leather belt, which led to Scotty saying "I quit". -- really should be changes, maybe to -- . After the match, JBL assaulted Scotty and demanded that Scotty say "I quit". As he choked Scotty with a leather belt, Scotty said "I quit".
    LAX 21:09, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  13. That same night, Cena was scheduled in a Handicap match against the Basham Brothers (Doug and Danny Basham). In which it saw Cena win, after he performed an FU on Danny Basham should say -- That same night, Cena was scheduled in a Handicap match against the Basham Brothers (Doug and Danny Basham). Cena won the match after an FU onto Danny Basham.
    Merged the two sentences. –LAX 21:09, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  14. Wiki-link "FU"
    Merged the two sentences. –LAX 21:09, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  15. The first match that Long announced was between JBL and Rey Mysterio. needs a ref.
    LAX 21:09, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  16. That same night, Cena was scheduled in a Handicap match against the Basham Brothers (Doug and Danny Basham) needs a ref.
    Merged the two sentences. –LAX 21:09, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  17. Same as #1 in Paragraph One, with the dates.
    LAX 20:16, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  18. After Rey Mysterio defeated Eddie Guerrero at WrestleMania 21. is not a complete sentence...
    LAX 22:53, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  19. in which Guerrero and Mysterio accepted. - take out "in"
    --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 22:49, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  20. That outcome of the match saw MNM win the WWE Tag Team titles from Guerrero and Mysterio after Guerrero walked out in the middle of the match. - reword to MNM defeated Guerrero and Mysterio to win the match and the WWE Tag Team titles after Guerrero walked away in the middle of the match
    --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 22:51, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  21. During the match, however, Mysterio accidentally performed a flying body press on Guerrero which led to Guerrero abandoning Mysterio, but returned as the fans urged Guerrero to come back. could use a source.
    --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 22:50, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  22. The match saw MNM retain the titles, after they pinned Mysterio for the win. should read MNM retained the titles after pinning Mysterio for the win.
    --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 22:52, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  23. The match saw Mysterio as the winner of the match. - reword to Mysterio came out as the winner of the match.
    --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 22:57, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  24. The same as number one in paragraph one.
    LAX 23:22, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  25. The match was won by JBL, after Booker ran back to the ring and hit Angle with a steel chair, after Angle eliminated Booker from the match. -- should be -- The match was won by JBL when Booker (who had already been eliminated by Angle) ran back to the ring and hit Angle with a steel chair.
    Merged the first and second sentences. –LAX 23:25, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  26. Moments before changed to Earlier
    LAX 23:31, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  27. Angle apologized for his actions the week before, but admitted that he actually kissed Sharmell and let her fondle his "private parts" before Booker made his way to the locker room last week. needs to be soruced.
    --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:27, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  28. On an episode of SmackDown!, Angle, Booker, Big Show and JBL took part in a Fatal Four-Way match to determine the Number One contender for Cena's WWE title. needs to be sourced as well.
    Its already sourced. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:25, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Nevermind. =] iMatthew 2008 23:40, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Event

Matches 1-5 (+ dark match)

  1. Combine the first and second, third and fourth, fifth and sixth paragraphs.
    LAX 00:01, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Nunzio pinned Akio with a roll-up. to make the sentance a little longer, how about Nunzio pinned Akio with a roll-up to win the match.
    LAX 00:01, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  3. The match started off with Johnny Nitro and Charlie Haas. this should be explain, it started off with Nitro and Haas inside of the ring, outside of the ring, backstage, in the parking lot. You know what I mean?
    LAX 00:01, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Both lock up and Haas rolled Nitro over quickly. - Is there any way to avoid starting the sentence with both? Also, IMO, saying quickly seems like a personal opinion.
    LAX 00:01, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  5. as all the superstars were able to participate in the match. insert "of" between "all the"
    LAX 00:01, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Carlito gaining the successful pinfall. gaining --> gained.
    LAX 00:01, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  7. Reword these two sentences Back and fourth action saw London and Chavo take the advantage over one another. One moment saw London up on the top rope and charging towards Chavo and leapfrogging over and kicked Chavo backwards into a corner. the word "saw" doesn't need to be used in every sentence.
    LAX 00:01, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  8. The sentence comes up again in the next paragraph, Back and fourth action saw Angle and Booker have the upper hand over one another.
    LAX 00:01, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  9. And again, The match saw Jordan retain the United States title, after he performed a DDT and covered Heidenreich for the win.
    LAX 00:01, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Last two matches

  1. The following match - should be the next match or something other than "following"
    LAX 00:48, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  2. The prase There was back and forth action is used a lot. Can this one be change, There was back and forth action between both Guerrero and Mysterio.
    LAX 00:48, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Guerrero lost the upper hand when he launched Mysterio over the top rope when he tried a charge at Mysterio, but Mysterio landed on the ring apron, springboarded off the top rope and landed a flying headbutt. - really long sentence, needs to be broken up and shortened.
    LAX 00:48, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  4. A pyro went off behind Cena when he lifted the WWE Championship over his head. should be sourced.
    LAX 00:48, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  5. A spot in the match included JBL removing the top of an announce table and grabbing a microphone and telling Cena to say I quit. - the beginning should be re-phrased.
    LAX 00:48, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Cena backfired with telling JBL to kiss his ass on the microphone and back body dropping him on the Spanish announce table, which resulted in JBL crashing through it. is not notable for the match. If it is, then source it and re-word it.
    LAX 00:48, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  7. Another spot saw JBL nailing Cena on the head with a steel chair and busting Cena open. - again, re-word the beginning. "Another spot" is not encyclopedic.
    LAX 00:48, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  8. The referee asked Cena if he wanted to quit and Cena yelling out "hell no." - source it or remove it.
    LAX 00:48, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  9. The result in the match saw Cena retain the WWE Championship. can be changed to As a result, Cena retained the WWE Championship.
    LAX 00:48, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Aftermath

  1. by the RAW brand General Manager, Eric Bischoff I believe there should be an "'s" after "brand"
    Removed "brand." –LAX 12:27, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Jericho's actions led to him turning on Cena, after defeating Christian and Tyson Tomko in a tag team match and Bischoff booking a Triple Threat match involving Christian, Jericho and Cena for the WWE Championship at Vengeance. needs to be either broken into two sentences, re-worded, or shortened.
    I think I got it. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 16:44, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Yup. iMatthew 2008 18:59, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  3. On the June 30 edition of SmackDown!, Batista was revealed to be the last pick in the draft lottery; as he made a surprise appearance after John "Bradshaw" Layfield (JBL) celebrated his victory in a six-man elimination match to win the new SmackDown! Championship, after the WWE Championship was now part of the RAW brand. - again needs to be shortened. it's two an a half lines long.
    I think I got it. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 16:47, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Almost, after the WWE Championship was now part of the RAW brand. needs to be re-worded. iMatthew 2008 18:59, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  4. On the July 7 edition of SmackDown!, Batista would defend the World Heavyweight Championship at The Great American Bash against JBL. -- lol, that makes no sense whatsoever.-
    Again. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 16:47, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Got it. iMatthew 2008 18:59, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  5. After their last meeting at WrestleMania 21, in which Angle won after he made Michaels submit to the Ankle lock is not a complete sentence and makes no sense. What happened after their last meeting?
    Does it make sense? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:21, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    No, I don't even get what it's trying to say. iMatthew 2008 18:59, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Now? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 02:23, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    No, it still says After their last meeting at WrestleMania, during an interpromotional match, in which Angle won. That makes no sense. It makes no point as to what happened after their last meeting at WrestleMania. iMatthew 2008 10:38, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, how 'bout now? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 19:32, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. iMatthew 2008 19:56, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  1. As a result, Michaels went onto challenge Angle to a rematch from their WrestleMania bout at Vengeance, in which Angle accepted. can be re-worded to as a result of what? Also, re-word the sentence, its too confusing..their WrestleMania bout at Vengeance makes it seem like they had a WrestleMania match during Vengeance....
    Again. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 16:49, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    No, it still says from their WrestleMania bout at Vengeance which makes is sound like they have a WrestleMania bout at Vengeance. iMatthew 2008 18:59, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Now? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 02:23, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes. iMatthew 2008 10:38, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  2. At Vengeance, Michaels defeated Angle after he performed Sweet Chin Music and gaining the win over Angle. Michaels defeated Angle...gaining the win over Angle. You say Michaels won the match twice in the same sentence. Remove "and gaining the win over Angle"
    --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:14, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Expand the last paragraph. What happened after it was revealed that Eddie was Dominick's father?
    Wouldn't that have to be explained at the GAB article? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:19, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    It should be explained here as well, since it's mentioned. It doesn't have to be in detail, just say what happened, briefly. iMatthew 2008 18:59, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Now? –LAX 13:18, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also two references do not work, currently #11 and 12. Also, do a google search or something, and look for more sources, if possible; about anything, mainly the results. iMatthew 2008 00:23, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

11 works fine. I ended up replacing 12. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 01:01, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've completed the aftermath. iMatthew 2008 12:18, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]


You can give WP:PW your 1 week notice now! ;) iMatthew 2008 19:56, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

GA Nomination Review

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria


This article is in decent shape, but it needs more work before it becomes a Good Article.

  1. Is it well written?
    A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:
    Well done.
    B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:
  2. Is it verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check?
    A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:
    B. Reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose):
    C. It contains no original research:
    D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:
    B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):
  4. Is it neutral?
    It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
  5. Is it stable?
    It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
  6. Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?
    A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:
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  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:
    There is some concerns with the article, so I'll put the nomination on hold, so the concerns can be resolved.

Notes:

  • In the John Cena and JBL feud, Eddie Guerrero attacked JBL and broke who's pinfall?
  • Going to Sharmell?
  • RAW is capitalized in the Aftermath, even though Raw is spelled out.
  • When did Shawn Michaels challenge Kurt Angle to a WrestleMania 21 rematch?

Speed CG Talk 16:19, 21 May 2008 (UTC) [reply]