Talk:Dizzee Rascal

Date of Birth

It cannot possibly be correct. He was referred to constantly (and referred to himself) as being 18/19 around the time his first album came out, yet according to this he would have been 17. The article also refers to him winning an award in September 2003 aged 19. According to the DOB listed in this article, he would have been 17 then. (Unsigned)

mytowerhamlets.co.uk also lists 01/11/1985 (http://www.mytowerhamlets.co.uk/towerhamlets/celebs&gossip-dizzee_rascal.htm) however IMDB lists 01/10/1985 (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1476707/bio). I'm inclined to believe IMDB. PoisonedPigeon 14:50, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

A link with that DOB was provided from his own site some months ago, yet his own site said he was 22 when according to the DOB he would have been 21!

Are you saying you really believe he was 17 when Boy in Da Corner came out? He was listed everywhere, including out of his own mouth, as 18.

Here you go, quoting from your own link- "Dizzee gets Mercury Music Prize! - 19/09/03 Tower Hamlets born rapper Dizzee Rascal has become the first underground urban artist to win the prestigious Mercury Music Prize.

19 year old Dizzee and his debut album ’Boy in Da Corner’ beat hot favourites The Darkness and Coldplay to win the award. He said that he had not been expecting to win but he was ’happy to be recognised’"

If he was 19 in September 2003, and his birthday is October or November, the year would have to be 1983 not 1985....I highly doubt a 17 year old would get reported as 19. If anything, it would have been highlighted how impressive it was for a 17 year old to be doing all that. But I bet you can't find ANYTHING from 2003 saying he was 17.

ok, found some more links

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/feature/14694-interview-dizzee-rascal "the 20-year old Brit" in June 05

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/record_review/17038-boy-in-da-corner "18 year-old Dizzee Rascal" in July 03

How could the guy have got his age wrong when interviewing him......

Clearly he was 18 in mid-03 when BIDC came out, so he is older than listed

Rascal is seen as the British 50 cent or 2Pac.- Bit biased.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.155.244.239 (talk) 11:56, 1 November 2007 (UTC) 

Years active

Why are his years active from 1995-present? He was only 10 in 1995 and the article itself says he started MCing at the age of 15, which would be 2000 from my calculations.

There must be a delay

Nicely written article, but i must say that i dont think thre is anyway dizzee is meeting this date. No intreviews, no new single and stilla 10th of april release date. Whats he doing!! also im planning adding a new section metioning his record label and signings. Okay?

I agree. (It is simply a bad idea to present record release announcements as facts in a Wikipedia article). Go ahead! regards, High on a tree 23:21, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay, but its written now, im new at wikipedia and code language so i didn't know how to insert references, or make hyperlinks for pages within wikipedia. If anyone could help, it would be appreciated.

websites used

http://www.myspace.com/dizzeerascal

http://www.dizzeerascal.co.uk

http://arts.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,11711,1472012,00.html

http://www.xlrecordings.com/friends/~dirteestank/

I havent completely finshed so i will continue working on the article. Thanks Davinche 17:41, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Does anyone know the story about his stabbing in Aya Napia?

                                --Djjazzyjeff69 11:43, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, the story goes that Dizzee pinched/slapped Lisa Maffia on the arse, which led to a fight with Megaman, which then later led to the stabbing. Who did the stabbing is not normally said (It would likely be seen as snitching, even more of a taboo among criminals than with regular citizens), although it would be fair to assume it was someone related to So Solid. A dispute comes with Wileys role in this, and whether or not he backed Dizzee. Dizzee seems to claim that Wiley didn't help him in the fight/stabbing, whereas Wiley says that he backed Dizzee in the fight with Megaman, but wasn't present at the stabbing. It seems this incident is the reason of the beef between them. They have both spoken about it on records, of course though there will be some self-censorship on both sides, either to protect their own reputation, or avoid snitching, or getting someone into legal trouble. There is a video on youtube called "wiley vs dizzee (dylans on a hype now)" that contains a track from each on the subject when appearing on Westwoods show. It may not be appropriate to link to that in the article however, it would be debatable to me as to whether or not that would be copyright violation, some may make a fair use argument in the interest of comment and criticism, or along some other similar lines, but it would need a lawyers advice before putting wikipedia at risk. Zbigniewwho (talk) 11:10, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

BLP

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Some comments

the track 'Pu*syhole' is shown with a *, is this how it is released? Wiki rules (from what i remember) basically say that you shouldn't do this unless that is how the name appears on the official release, i believe its called bowdlerizing, an editor should know more about this rule. Also there is some question (ie citation needed) about the fact that the 'dirty stank' label existed from his early days in the scene, i remember playing the instrumental singles 'go' and 'hoe' (which are not mentioned in the article)at friends houses , and one of these definatly had the 'flys around fæces' logo on it. I also remember being under the impression that these tracks were produced by dizzee.

Hopefully someone who knows more about these things and is a good writer/researcher can look into these things, and consider them. 213.48.1.15 06:46, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

EDIT:

just did a little research, it looks like some of the info that need verifing comes from the dirteestank myspace, and and interview with blackdown

http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/2006_02_01_archive.html http://www.myspace.com/dirteestankrecordings

the dirtystank myspace page looks to be his 'offfical' myspace, as its linked to from the official site http://www.dizzeerascal.co.uk/

the blackdown site looks fairly reputable, he seems to have good contacts within the scene.

I don't know if these qualify as good enough sources though, i know that wiki generally frowns on blogs/myspaces as sources. I understand that he did a recent interview with 'the observer' which would certainly be consdireded a reasonable source from what i can tell, i don't have access to the interview so i don't know if that will have something. Another place to try and get better sources from would be rewind magazine (i think its known as RWD). I'm pretty new at this wiki stuff, so i'll leave these to a real editor to check out, hope this helps. 213.48.1.15 07:06, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

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Fair use rationale for Image:Dizee Rascal Album Boy in da Corner.jpg

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Fast Rapping "Spitting"?

There is an issue with the term "spitting" being associated with "fast rapping", which is not necessarily the case. In terms of rap vernacular, "spitting" is just another word for "rapping", "rhyming" etc... there are many MCs who use the term "spitting" and do not necessarily have a faster-paced flow (guys like Joe Budden for example). The point being made about him using a more UK Grime-like flow is definitely on point... that should be kept, but the term "spitting" is not a new term for "fast rapping". Khal 14:13, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Maybe they use it that way in England? I deleted it.--P4k 22:41, 26 June 2007 (UTC)