Talk:Ryan Ross

Please keep this page as a discussion of the article, not a forum.--Panic!out (talk) 16:27, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism

People are able to vandalize Panic! at the Disco's page as well, this isn't fair! I want Ryan's page to stay here, it helps people learn about the individual not just the band and sometimes people want to know more about the person not the band Panic's page wouldn't be able to give all possible information about all the members which is why I think they should each have their own page. Please! Today is my birthday let's just have this be my birthday present and leave the members individual pages alone :[ LoserKidEmx3 12:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

The worst error one can make on a wikipedia biography article (almost) is to display a picture of someone other than the person who is being described. In this case, the person in the primary picture is fall out boy bassist/lyricist/back-up vocalist Pete Wentz and NOT Ryan Ross.This must be immediately corrected as most people trust wikipedia and use it as their main reference/encyclopedic source. He is dating a girl named haley and the relationship has lasted for about 6 months now. He is also dating a girl named haley and they have been in a relationship for 6 months now.

Photo Questions

Can't we get a better picture or something? There are actually like...pictures from photo shoots available. This one is blurry, dark, and Ryan isn't even looking at the camera. Danner578 04:56, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

• Per WP:C & WP:FU currently "photo shoot" or "promotional" images are prohibited when a 100% free alternative is available.Hackajar 05:08, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

How could you take out that photo?! That was by far the best natural picture of Ryan. If you can't use that one because of "copyright issues," then you could at least find a decent one. A decent photo is better than no photo. I'd recommend some of the ones from Panic!'s official site, or one from their purevolume site, [1]. I have some really good photos, but I don't know how to put a picture on the page, so if you could leave me the instruction on my talk page, [[2]]. Please leave me the instructions. I'll take care of the photo business. Thanks!!--P!@tD Girly! 03:53, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Okay, so this is happening with all the members of this band. None of them have photos! Can none of us find a decent photo that we're allowed to use? What's going on?--P!@tD Girly! 01:59, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, two of my photos were deleted, though only one had a copyright on it. Jazzline b! (talk) 20:05, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

We can't put on any pictures because the page is protected. Only admin can change it.

Can someone PLEASE contact an administrator or something, Ryan really needs to have his picture on here! He's adorable, it's a shame that people who look at the wikipedia page about him don't get to see that... :( —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.228.29.240 (talk) 01:40, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

I took a picture Friday night. He's not looking at the camera, but it's something. I can probably take one from one of the videos I took, but this is better than nothing. ~DoubleAW^[c] 19:43, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Guitar Info??

Shouldn't we know what kind of guitars he has? i'm pretty sure he played a Gibson ES model at the VMAs.

• Find a Secondary source for this, reference source, and it can be included per policy. There are lots of band member pages that speak of their instrument preferences Hackajar 12:43, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

He has used a Gibson Firebird too. [3] Myke251 14:19, 17 January 2007 (UTC).

He also has a Gibson Les Paul, hes got two of those i think acctually. hes got a lot of gibsons um i don't know the names of guitars and what nots, but he always has like the large yellow one thats like super awesome, he always has it in liver performances and in the video for but its better if you do-erin

I can't edit the page myself, as I haven't got an account, but could someone please remove the last line of "Early life" that describes Ryan as the "sweetest guy on the planet"? Thanks. 24.201.233.33 18:18, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Done Redspark09 19:26, 3 December 2006 (UT

Ryan most often plays an arch top Gretchen's G6118T-120 and sometimes a firebird, but I can't remember the model. This might be important to state in the article

He changes his guitar, so technically, we shouldn't.....

i've seen Ryan play a les paul in some video performances too. but i don't know much else about the guitar besides that.

My dad says the guitar he plays a lot is a Gretchen's Semi-Hollowbody, but I don't know what model. Sorry! hahahaha soz i think dats funny (becci)

Just a question...

I'm an avid fan of Ryan, so I'm curious about this. Currently, at the end of the article, it says Ryan is "currently taking piano, guitar, and voice lessons." I understand piano and voice lessons, since he doesn't do either in the band, but guitar lessons? He plays guitar in the band! I mean, I know there's always room for improvement, but is this true? Once again, I'm just curious. Thanks! :) Ryan is talking piano, guitar, and voice lessons. He was asked about it in an interview and he said that he was.

Actually Ryan is also back up vocals but there are few songs in which he has to do so.

he does back-up vocals in live performances, as well as some key-board when live. also, all of the guitar parts on the album are relatively simple, hinting that maybe he isn't the greatest guitar player. plus, what would it hurt to get a little better.

I heard that currently, he is taking lessons from Frak Sinatra's voice coach. Which must be why his live singing has suddenly improved so much. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.111.15.73 (talk) 00:01, August 30, 2007 (UTC)

I heard that only Brendon was taking lessons from Frank Sinatra's voice coach. AmieUrie 11:14, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

also he isn't dating kanye west lol get rid of that please —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lolitagirl1989 (talk • contribs) 23:13, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Ryan's Dad

Ryan Ross's dad died JULY 28, 2006, not JUNE 28, 2006. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Anna is Awesome (talk • contribs) 04:43, 22 January 2007 (UTC).

Yes,I know,I was the first person who added the information that he died on July 28,then someone changed it to June,but for some reason I can't edit the articleXpoisonedxlovex 19:14, 2 April 2007 (UTC)Xpoisonedxlovex

Yea whoever said it was in JUNE obviously did not real the Rolling Stone Article which says...

"Last July,His Father Died In His Sleep at the age of sixty. Panic were en route from Vancouver to Seattle on there bus when Ross herd the news. "I Could almost feel that it was going top happen,because of the way he would treat himself" he says. "I got a phone call,and i knew right away what the police officer was going to tell me"........" so yea...pick up a rolling stone,lol. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.244.31.4 (talk) 05:49, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Also, along these lines, someone please go fix the part that says he wrote two songs on the album about his dad's death. The album came out almost a year before his dad died. I would, but I don't have an account and that's really bugging me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.74.228.254 (talk) 17:30, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

^ I know....Camisado, and Nails for breakfast tacks for snacks were about his dad's alcoholism not about his death...

Could we possibly get someone to edit the page who can spell? Please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.76.42.172 (talk) 13:06, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Infinity on High?

Ryan did a guitar solo on infinity on high should that be in here or is it not really that important?

yes, that is important.

seconded. VERY JazzlineB (talk) 16:09, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

thats very important.i was trying to figure that out for weeks actualy....

Ryan Ross was in the song : The Take Over The Breaks Over *** in Infinity on High ----ruchika55 (inlove with ryry) lol

picture...?

a picture would be good.... theres this one on buzznet thats floating around alot... and its a good picture... its the one where he has "Robert smith"-esque and is looking quite androgynous. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by mell (talk) 04:06, 30 January 2007 (UTC).

who the f*** wrote this?
Ryan did NOT go to school with Spencer. their dads worked at the same hotel and they used to play with each other. .
i think the infinity on high solo should be on this.
tbh.
why don't you just let a real fan write this?
yeah.Ryan went to a private school and Spencer went to a public school i belive.
ryan did go to school with spencer until spencer swtiched schools.
They always change the picture and now they have no picture. I am pretty annoyed.
they technically went to the same school for two years, but they were in different grades. then spencer switched schools. but they met through ryan's grandfather and spencer's dad.
Ryan and Spencer:
First of all, Ryan and Spencer have been friends since they were really little. They didn't meet at High School. So who ever wrote this article, they need to know the REAL story! Ok? Good!
And, Ryan's dad died on July 28, 2006. not June 28 dipweed..

Okay, this article needs HELP. it has no picture and gets vandalized all the time. any ideas on how this can actually become a DECENT article? thanks. --P!@tD Girly! 02:29, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Keltie Colleen is Ryan Ross's current girlfriend. They met when she was a backup dancer at the VMA's and have been dating since some time around then.

You should display who Ryan Ross is in a relationship with!

actually, i met ryan once and asked if he had a girlfriend he said "not at the moment" and laughed, (April '07). he also said he wasn't interested, but that's beside the point.

Everybody, please sign your comments with ~~~~! Firstly, this article is a biography- in other words, everything needs to be verifiable, with correct, reliable sources. Therefore, arguing about it on the talk page as above is not going to do anything unless someone comes and backs it up! Please... CattleGirl ^talk 07:54, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

I think we know for sure that he WAS dating Keltie Colleen, but I haven't seen any reliable source say that they are currently still dating. And, um, since when is Buzznet a reliable source? 24.74.141.22 21:31, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Is it true hes getting married to some...model....? I thought he was still dating Keltie... -(im not a user only a confused fan) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.73.103.253 (talk) 01:36, August 30, 2007 (UTC)

He's not getting married to a model, trust me. I don't think he's going out with Keltie anymore, either, though. See 11th article on this page. Hope I helped u confused fan rockerchic_22 <3 Panic! at the Disco 19:27, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

How Come?

19 May 2007 22:27BST

How come in the main article, it says that Ryan Ross was born on August 30 1992, and the bit under the picture says he was born on August 30 1986?

Shouldn't these two match?

yeah, he was born in 86... looks like vandalism, maybe someone hoping he wasn't so much older than they were

Why is this there?

19 May 2007 22:53 EST

In the 'Early Beginnings...' paragraph, why does it say 'and He was Support By His Friend Sweet Blood Stacy now he write her lyrics . . . . '
Either someone edit that sentence or delete it. I really don't think that there was ANY news at all about this and if there was there should be a reference link about it.

Yeah that was really bugging me someone completely vandalised it. Knight Whitefire 06:25, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

I agree. o.o It doesn't even make sense. Who is that person anyway? Panicattdfan 16:27, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

After posting that last post, I just saw that I could edit Ryan's page. Fixed it. Panicattdfan 16:29, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I think, what he/she meant to say was '...and he was supported by his friend 'Sweet Blood Stacy.' And he now writes her lyrics...' i'm not a user 15:14 May 2007

i believe he was born in 87 not 86...could be wrong but thats what most of the fan pages say —Preceding unsigned comment added by Panicpirate (talk • contribs) 20:11, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

They're wrong... he was definitely born in 86. I was born in 88 - last year he turned 21, and I turned 19, so 86 is correct. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.25.78.45 (talk) 15:44, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

?

i thing is dating a model not sher but i no he is dating some one

Ryan is dating Keltie Colleen. She is a model and a dancer.

They broke up about a week or two after his birthday —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.153.230.166 (talk) 22:24, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Um, no. Keltie and Ryan are still together, unfortunately. AmieUrie 11:12, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Ryan Ross and Keltie are still going strong despite immature people trying to spread lies and horribly untrue rumors about her..and about them.

tattoo

Ryan currently got a tattoo soon after brendon got his, his tattoo says "mad as a hatter, thin as a dime" and they're on his wrists. they are lyrics from tom wait's diamonds and gold.

just a question... it says it's his first tattoo, than why does he have a tattoo on his other wrist? just wondering if i am wrong or the person who added the picture

he got them at the same time

ryro♥

Mad as a hatter ia on one wrist and thin as a dime is on the other Happy Birthday Ryan!

There are more, on the backs of his upper arms. On the left, it's a Q with a crow sitting on the top of the line, and on the right it's a question mark. There are pictures at http://www.patdonline.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=277 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.74.228.254 (talk) 17:27, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

I think he's no longer with Keltie

There's rumors now that they broke up (finally).

And this picture doesn't exactly help disprove the rumor:

http://img104.imageshack.us/my.php?image=7643114110wp6.jpg

It doesn't look photoshopped to me so...looks like Mr. Ross decided to take a page out of a certain Wlliam Eugene Beckett's page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.111.15.73 (talk) 17:35, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

That picture is NOT photoshopped. It is real. Thats travis mccoy and ryan at this 12th birthday party. hehe —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.115.52.121 (talk) 17:34, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Ack I hope he's not with Keltie anymore. I don't like her much, I really think Ryan can do better.

still together. but two good things. 1. he's happy with her 2. they have a really cute dog named hobo!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.186.33.124 (talk) 07:25, 8 April 2008 (UTC) http://www.myspace.com/fromagentstoauditions that's her only myspace... Ryan has no myspaces, except the PATD myspace...Any way, on it she just posted a bulletin because the break up rumor got back to her mom in canada and her mom asked her about it. She said in the bulletin that they are still together and that their was never a break up...meaning they did not break up then get back together, they're still going strong

Birthday according to Perez

[4] i know perez isn't the most reliable, but it says thrusday september 30 was ryro's birthday. hmph. plus, no more ryhawk. meh. i would sign this post, but i don't have a wikipedia account —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.145.212.100 (talk) 01:27, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Ryan Ross and Keltie are still together as there are pictures of them together at his 21st birthday party and a picture of her coming out of a present and them kissing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special

there still together. that picture In the "Personal Life" section, it says that Ryan is having an affair with Brendon. I'm sorry but I'm pretty sure Ryan's straight. Can some fix that?( It won't let me on my computer.)

I agree!!! Ryan Ross is not gay!!! -I <3 Ryan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.225.132.224 (talk) 15:41, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Just a friendly reminder

All of the Panic! at the Disco pages need to be improved, not just this one. If you've been editing this page please consider branching out and contributing to Jon Walker and Brent Wilson! Jazzline b! (talk) 20:07, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

I think Ryan is NOT GAY!!! I mean he's hott... I hope he broke up with Keltie... JK They look so happy together!but it's sad for the other grls who luv Ryan Ross(cry) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 28chocolatebar (talk • contribs) 04:58, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Okay for anyone who doesn't know this already, yes Ryan and Keltie are still together. They are very happy and love eachother!can someone please shange the part were it said they dated, 2 days ago a pic was put on Keltie's myspace of him hugging and kissing her with their promise rings showing in clear view... and there is a pic of her with a ring on her ring finger but sources tell me its from a family member and she jut like to wear it on that finger, and besides it doesnt have any diamonds on it or anything so i dont belive that they are engaged. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lyricsfanatic (talk • contribs) 16:49, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

delete a section

The Personal Life section should probably be removed, as it lists many non notable people. Jazzline b! (talk) 03:55, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

I don't know why but I think this article is locked from all users. And that persona life section defintely needs to be removed. PrincessOfHearts (talk) 00:25, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

It looks no different from the trivia sections that are always flagged on other pages. Except with the header "Personal Life" rather than "Trivia". Terukiyo (talk) 01:08, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Keltie Colleen

More recent rumors have been going around saying that they have broken up now. Someone said something had been added on Keltie's myspace and everything referencing Ryan had been deleted off it. Anyone have any solid evidence? 121.44.209.144 (talk) 03:48, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Keltie posted this in her blog last week; they are still together.

"ps. I am off to Austin to judge this weekend and then meeting up with my boo on the road next week! I'll be tagging along all week and I CANNOT wait. My days are empty without him. I feel like I should be over being so in love. Isn't there supposed to be a point where your heart stops beating so fast and your face doesnt break out right before you see your man? Guess not. Yay! Seeing songs from new record for the first time! Boo. Adult acne!!!!"

They are still dating shes just confused, here this is from one of her blogs on myspace...

I was also a little low with some things happening in my personal life, which of course I will keep personal. I've just been questioning what love is, what love means, the power of family, why really shitty things happen to really good people, trust, forgiveness, and just the weakness and power that giving yourself to someone requires. A good friend of mine once said to me " (blank)(ryan) wasn't really that special, I just made him that way" and I sort of believe that. Do you ever feel that way? Needless to say, I have never been so hurt in my life, and I have never been able to be such a big person. I believe in growth, and change and that as humans, we are apt to make mistakes, say the wrong thing, or do the wrong thing. I also believe that I am deserving of all the love and stars in the sky ...sometimes those two outlooks conflict. Jann Arden just says it best...How do you teach your heart it's a crime to fall in love again? ^ just remember not everything she writes is about Ryan, she went through a rough break up a while back, and as a result had a guard up to protect herself from getting hurt again. But she's let it down w/ ryan and is soo happy. Yes they have their ups and downs but every couple does. But at the end of the day they're madly in love. oOo and by the way " (blank)(ryan) wasn't in the origional blog...

I want to inform anyone who knew her myspace url..myspace.com/radrockette that is no longer her. A few weeks ago Keltie deleted her personal myspace and now only has her buisness one myspace.com/fromagentstoauditions . However, since then someone else has taken over that url and is pretending to be Keltie.. In response to this keltie posted the following on myspace.com/fromagentstoauditions "I just wanted to take this chance to say that I am focusing only on work and have opted out from having a personal myspace (it has been hacked one too many times! and caused me WAY too much stress) I have deleted my myspace (radrockette) and also my doggies myspace and hopefully will get more work done! I know that someone else has taken that URL and is posting as if they are me, but they are not me." —Preceding unsigned comment added by YourGuardianAngel2 (talk • contribs) 21:18, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Ryan Ross's little brother?

Does Ryan have a little brother named corey? I saw a picture of him on some girls photo

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.91.99.250 (talk) 01:59, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Okay, IM 99.99999% SURE THAT RYAN ROSS DID NOT DATE MANDY MUSGRAVE! if he did, there would be pictures and such. Yes, he used to date Jac Vanek, but can someone please tell me if he really did date this Mandy girl???? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.113.244.65 (talk) 22:51, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Mandy No, Jac unfortunatly yes... —Preceding unsigned comment added by YourGuardianAngel2 (talk • contribs) 05:04, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Keltie

Okay, are they still dating? It's been a while and Ryan's personal life has been deleted. Does that mean they've broken up or what?

Can some just please clear this up, I'm confused. Bottle-Of-Musical-Joy (talk) 14:59, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Never mind, I think I just confirmed it myself. I read her myspace and it says she's single. Obviously, her and Ryan are not dating anymore. Should we put this up or what? Bottle-Of-Musical-Joy (talk) 15:06, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

No they're still together and happy...check out her myspace myspace.com/fromagentstoauditions she deleted her personal myspace becaus it was getting hacked and what not...so now that's her only myspace...and a while back she posted a bulletin about the whole break up rumor, and how it got back to her mother who's a school teacher back in Keltie's hometown, and she said that they are still together and their has been no break up...