Talk:The Second Coming (poem)

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Template:VfD-SecondComing (this link is bad, but I can't figure out where the data is. DrGaellon (talk | contribs) 22:15, 1 May 2007 (UTC))[reply]

The full text of this poem is in the public domain (for the Wikipedia servers in the United States), because it was published before 1923. —Toby Bartels 22:45, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can some Yates scholars come in and clean up the mess that is posted here? Much of what is here reads as if Adam Smith and Tom Delay had written it posthumously.

Plagiarism

The first paragraph of "Origin of terms" is copied nearly verbatim from the SparkNotes on this poem (see the second paragraph of the SparkNotes on line, accessed 2007-04-30). Should it be rephrased, deleted, or cited? -- DrGaellon (talk | contribs) 22:15, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comparison to Jungs collective unconcious

'The "spiritus mundi" (literally "spirit of the world") is a reference to Yeats' belief that each human mind is linked to a single vast intelligence, and that this intelligence causes certain universal symbols to appear in individual minds. The idea is similar to Carl Jung's concept of the collective unconscious.'

This is totally WRONG. The collective unconscious is the shared human symbolic language that has evolved through millions of years of human experience and evolution, manifested in dreams primarily. It is not of a spiritual or metaphysical nature. This is a very poor and inaccurate comparison.

It's also insane.

Allusions

This section is way too long and needs trimming.--Lepeu1999 16:52, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Another allusion that I thought appropriate to add was in Chimamanda Adichie's book "Purple Hibiscus" the starting line was ode to Chineau Achebe's book "Thing's Fall Apart", should that be added? -toks (talk) 01:29, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm about to start trimming this section down. It's way too long, has no organization whatsoever, and could basically go on indefinitely the way it is. While Things Fall Apart is significant and adds to the article, but the fact that part of the poem was quoted once on an episode of Babylon 5, in my opinion adds nothing to the article. In accordance with Wikipedia: Trivia sections, I'll try to keep what seems relevant. In Wikipedia in general, this is gettting out of hand. I've done very little editing so far, so any feedback/help is quite welcome. Punning (talk) 14:11, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rough Beast

Please think through that the rough beast, or antichrist / old no. 666, is about and rising up. Who could this be? is that mark of the beast , the 666, clearly visible ? Yes it is , in plain sight , right in front of you all ... ! on the sides of the AC beast's head. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.194.81.100 (talk) 09:25, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Following up on this, another cleanup in September. Like The Catcher In The Rye, this seems to be one of those "favourite band" articles where every use of the word "slouching" in every small-town band lyric is going to be added, and will need to be pruned. --66.129.135.114 (talk) 15:02, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dag nabbit, that should have followed the "Allusions" section above. Apologies. --66.129.135.114 (talk) 15:02, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What to do here?

This is a really shitty article about one of the most important poems of the 20th century. But I really don't know what to do about it. What would make this a better article? Tell me, and I'll try. GPa Hill (talk) 05:35, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]