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Working japanese water bottle rocket jetpack?

I recently stumbled upon a video of a supposedly working Japanese jetpack made out of bottle rockets. (it's actually linked from the mythbusters wiki page). It looks as if it actually works. Trajectory looks a bit odd though, large chance it might be a hoax. http://www.milkandcookies.com/link/31501/detail/ Whacha guys think? Squiggle 14:51, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

mythbusters busted it.WolfKeeper 16:27, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Question of Existance

Actually Rocket Packs have been in flight since the late 60's. I remember watching a man fly into the Orange Bowl in Miami Florida when I was a kid. If you'd like to see the real deal, you can see a man who does this for a living and videos to go with it [www.rocketmaninc.com] - Added by David Woroner 6/21/06 [1]link title

The Bell rocket belt is referenced in the Similar devices section. When adding to an article, please check closely to avoid duplication and keep the tone consistent. Chairboy 15:52, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The one mentioned for James Bond actually flew and worked. I just saw Modern Marvels do an entire episode on James Bond vehicles and gadgets in which they showed it working (in one instance at the Superbowl). They called it (and it is usually referred to by most Bond websites) as the "Bell Textron jet pack," FYI. After looking at that website it would appear it is called the "rocketbelt" though. Informative :) K1Bond007 21:28, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)

Oh, the Bell Rocketbelt works very nicely indeed. Millions saw it in action at the 84 Olympics during the opening ceremonies, don't forget. Chairboy 23:09, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Hypothetical Creation

OMG, I could totally build a real jetpack. This will be my funnest project yet. It's so simple, I couldn't believe when I read "fictional" that it hasn't actually been done. I could totally do this. The U.S. Military departments funded by them have built solar technology that is capable of fueling itself off of electricity and then launching themselves in a rocket-like manner. Just combine some of that technology with jetpack technology and walah. wow. Another interesting thing is how NASA is trying to build more devices that power themselves off actual atmospheric air. Its not going to be too far away before someone builds an actual jetpack. --Cyberman 07:39, July 12, 2005 (UTC)

A working jet pack

After building the working rocket pack or rocketbelt, Bell Aerospace also built a working jet pack or jetbelt. Development began in 1965. The device was first flown in April 1969 by pilot Robert Courter at Fort Myer, Washington. Courter subsequently flew the jetbelt for an Ovaltine television advert. However, when rocketbelt and jetbelt inventor Wendell Moore died in May 1969, the entire flying belt project was shut down. Bell sold the patents for the jetbelt to Williams Research of Michigan in 1970. The jetbelt never flew publicy again.

References

Brown, Paul. Rocketbelt Caper, The. Lulu Press. ISBN 1-4116-2984-1.

External Links

The Rocketbelt Caper

US military quote

The intro claims the US military declared jet packs are officially lamer than helicopters. Source please? Tempshill 19:46, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Googling found this. It's not official, but it sounds authoritative (then again, so do we). --Kizor 21:39, 12 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Request for expansion

The actually existing "jet pack" is a familiar sight - not that you see it every day, but that it's memorable and many people have seen demonstrations on TV. It should be thoroughly documented here. The "jetpack in space" ought to be thoroughly documented also, although I think it should be in its own article. Tempshill 19:48, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

A-HA! I knew it was real, I just couldn't find a source. I doubt I'll be able to do so now, though. As for jetpacks in space, though, the MMUs and SAFER units are linked to in the article. --Kizor 21:25, 12 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The articles gives me a strange impression, that these devices do not really exist (though I know they do and the article does state this). This is caused mainly by the images, which are two renderings and a movie screenshot. A list of some really build devices with names and manufacturer and at least an image of a real jetpack in use should be added. The name of the inventor would not hurt either.

Fact vs Fiction

Any chance of an expanded fiction section? Too much of the article currently discusses the real world instances... --Fangz 14:13, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Go ahead. Be bold. Put up any information that you can source. Even though jet packs have been built, they are impractical at this point, so most of the references would be in fiction. Val42 19:36, 16 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Split request

A separate article has already been created for the Bell Rocket Belt. It should have its own article as an aircraft type. The details in this article about the Bell rocket belt should be moved to that article. Rsduhamel 22:30, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Anthony Appleyard 07:41, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Flyboy1969's alterations on 1 Jan 2006

He put in text (which I reverted out) saying that Powerhouse Productions designed a real rocket pack. Sources please. A search in http://www/altavista.com showed that Powerhouse Productions are a pop music and publicity type firm and not aerospace engineers. Anthony Appleyard 23:52, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Source of some of the text

At about 17.50 on 1 Jan 2005 I merged Longer history of rocket packs into Jet pack. Anthony Appleyard 13:25, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Rocket Belt and the Jet Pack

The Rocket Belt and the Jet Pack are NOT the same machines. Both where built by the same company, Bell Aerosystems, but the Rocket Belt uses a hydrogen peroxide rocket as the power source to fly and the Jet Pack uses a Williams turbine. Please keep this two pages separated. If you want to add a picture of the Jet Pack to the Jet Pack page go to http://www.rocketbelt.nl and go to the Bell Jet Belt menu; don't be confused with the Rocket Belt, the word JET diferentiates both machines. 13:54, 25 February 2006 200.95.151.164 .

The pages rocket belt and jet pack were identical, so I again redirected rocket belt to jet pack. I put some text in jet pack explaining the difference between a rocket belt and a jet pack. Anthony Appleyard 14:33, 2 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jet Packs and Models

Given that small TurboJet engines are commonly available for model aircraft these days, is it now feasible to build a TuboJet pack?

The average weight of a man is about 190 pounds.

BMV jets (http://www.bvmjets.com/) supply a turbojet that can provide 50lbs of Thrust.

Turbine Thrust (lbs) Diameter Weight (lbs) Price JetCat P-200 50 5.12 5 $4,995.00

With 2 banks of 3 JetCat P-200's strapped to your back you would have 300lb of Thrust to play with. That should be enough to cover the weight of the man, the engines and a reasonable amount of fuel. Then again, I have no idea how many pounds of fuel one of these engines would burn per second. Does anyone here know the rough figures?

Or is there some flaw to this idea? Do these model jet engines only generate 50lbs of thrust when they are travelling at some speed through the air?

I've looked at pulsejet engines but they always seem to be very long, so might not be practical for a jetpack. Opinions? -- (unsigned by anon)

I think that the big problem with turbojets is controllability. Basically turbojets can't respond to the throttle fast enough to give the fast thrust variation that you need. But hey, what do I know. -- Derek Ross | Talk 02:33, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Harrier jumpjets seem to manage it OK. I think a turbojet based jet pack has been built IRC.WolfKeeper 02:46, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

cleanup request

This article needs some cleaning up. After about half-way through the article, the language changes to far worse, barely legible due to serious grammatical errors.

Yes, and the article also is very repititious; some of the later sections read as if they were paraphrased from earlier sections. The article needs a rewrite.--Drvanthorp 06:20, 18 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The article is in serious need of clean up and restructuring. 1) It must separate fact from fiction. 2) The fiction is fine as long its kept there. 3) The non-fiction needs first the a) separation of the rocket (Bell) from the b) jet (Williams). Individual elaboration on implementations is fine, just make certain to reference current disposition. 198.123.50.168 (talk) 17:59, 30 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Real jetpack

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/TECH/ptech/02/06/solotrek.jetpack/index.html - Worth a read - article might need updating to take this into account.
This seems to be a sit-in type of backpack helicopter, not a jetpack. See SoloTrek XFV. Anthony Appleyard 05:30, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

speculative statements

"At the end of the war this device was handed over to Bell which tested it on a tether out of fear of harm as no test flier was willing to risk his life with the German machine. What became of the device is not known but Bell later came up with its famous "Rocketbelt" design that Wendel Moore claimed was his own. Although of different configuration and operation, it is suspected that Moore had knowledge of the German machine - hardly an "original" idea."

The last two sentences in this paragraph from the article contain non-factual information, speculation, and opinion. I believe those statements should be removed. Any comments before I do so? Overcast75 17:10, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Paragraph edited.Overcast75 05:25, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Jet PI

http://www.jetpackinternational.com/index.html

appeared on an old episode of six million dollar man

I remember seeing the jet pack get flown on an episode of six million dollar man in the 1980's when he was battling a robot which couldn't be stopped. my friend says he saw it on Gilligans Island also.

The Chaser Proto. 1

People always say that a jetpack is an immpossible thing to build... it's not. I'm still a kid that still goes to school like all others but little do the other kids know that it possible for even one of there schoolmates to build a jetpack. the jetpack that i am building is called the Chaser. it is not an active machine though it does seem that it is complete. The Chaser is a simple divise 1 foot by 2 feet. when the machine is put into an active mode it slowly gains the energy to speed up the "fans" that are turned up allowing are to push you down towards the ground. then when the energy collectors are finished they blow through a diffrent set of fans blowing down. as you levatate the fans that are blowing down are lifting you and the fans that are blowing up are keeping you at a reasonable height keeping you more comfortable flying.

Kid and Dreams

The chaser is a simple 1 foot by 2 feet design of an inactive jetpack that is still in the process of being made... I am a kid ready for high school and i am already half way done with this flying machine —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bird moose (talk • contribs) 01:40, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

cruise missile

I understood that the cruise missile was powered by the same type of turboject used in the Olympic jet pack demoe?Engineman (talk) 06:47, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]