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Vandalism? J'ACCUSE!!!

Hi there JEFF, this is VASCO from PORTUGAL,

I have been an editor for almost 2 years (on the 22nd i will have my "WIKI-birthday") and, after having my share of reverted vandalism (a gigantic one i might add) and other issues, i decided to revert to my anonymous user account (217.129.67.28), also deciding to act like an anonymous philantropist, letting my deeds speak for itself, that being why i almost never write an edit summary anymore. Is it WRONG? I do not think so...

Speaking of which: You reverted two of my edits, this(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Guayre) and this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberto_Canella), saying that the latter had been VANDALIZED by me? I urge you, my fellow user, to check this article's edit summary and also my story of editing (i repeat, user nº 217.129.67.28) to see how much i have tried, edit summaries or not, to improve the site.

Could your message be a misunderstading due to the fact i am anonymous (i had to log in to leave you this message, but work almost entirely logged out)? I hope so...

From Portugal, regards and a nice week,

VASCO AMARAL - --NothingButAGoodNothing (talk) 01:05, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Vasco, and thank you for posting here. Regarding the first edit, Template:Football player infobox AKA Template:Infobox Football biography says in plaintext:

"Senior club appearances and goals

counted for the domestic league only and

correct as of {{{pcupdate}}}."

You wrote "pcupdate = 31 October 2008", which was in the future when it was still "20 October 2008 (UTC)". I disputed that as factually impossible, and therefore a type of vandalism. Regarding the second edit, you did the same thing but with wikilinks, in that you wrote "pcupdate = [[October 31]], [[2008]]" (I added the nowiki tags). Such dates should be when the editor last verified the information (that date or a date in the recent past), not some date in the future. I would have done the same for a logged-in user. I stand by my warnings - you should not be misrepresenting current information as correct for 11 days into the future, or for any positive number of days into the future for that matter. And if I can't trust your dates, how can I trust the rest of the information in those edits? — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 10:50, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

He did the same to me a second ago just because I removed an unnessacary citiaion needed tag. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.249.95.247 (talk) 11:16, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why was that "citiaion(sic) needed tag" "unnessacary(sic)"? Why did you remove it without explanation? Please check your spelling, sign your posts, use Edit Summaries, and create an account. Thanks! — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 16:42, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not "reverting"

I'm just taking out Tennisexpert and Hjensen sponsoring on Rafa Nadal's article. Korlzor (talk) 17:20, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please discuss that on Talk:Rafael Nadal, not here. Thanks! — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 17:46, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You've no idea what are you talking about. Check this long discussion already, 99% of the people wanted the non-sponsored style, got consensus and they're ignoring it at their own. Check: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Tennis#Tournament_names . Korlzor (talk) 19:37, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry. If you had mentioned Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tennis#Tournament_names as the reason for your "taking out" in your Edit Summary, I would have understood. — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 19:06, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

I think is a very plausible redirection. In my country, when people speak English they often refer to Him as "The Impostor". Do you live in an Arab country? --Againme (talk) 17:42, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, sorry, on further review I have withdrawn my addition to The Impostor. — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 17:52, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot, man.--Againme (talk) 21:49, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 19:01, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Original Barnstar.png

Why is this image Vandalism? Mjroots (talk) 18:05, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The image itself (on Commons) isn't vandalism. I considered whatever Lizard1996 (talk · contribs) added to its image description page on English Wikipedia at or just before 17:34, 23 October 2008 (UTC) to be vandalism, and so did the deleting admin PhilKnight (talk · contribs) 30 minutes later. Please see this log for details. Thanks! — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 18:53, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deprod of Music from Salem

I have removed the {{prod}} tag from Music from Salem, which you proposed for deletion, because the article has now been referenced. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. Thanks! Unusual? Quite ^TalkQu 20:38, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the notification. The references and external links are welcome. — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 18:44, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the revert

Thanks for the revert on the Teine-ku, Sapporo article. It is appreciated. Chris (talk) 20:45, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 18:42, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nmwelsh

I think that the Nmwelsh article may be about a notable company after all. Please see http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-17344732_ITM -- Eastmain (talk) 21:10, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You should mention that to the deleting admin Akradecki (talk · contribs), if you haven't already. — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 18:42, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy removal

Just to let you know, I removed your speedy because it is not about a real person. I am reinstating the merge, have a nice day. — neuro^(talk) 19:58, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I didn't realize that db-bio doesn't apply to fictional people. Thanks for reinstating the merge. — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 20:01, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Attack"

The other "contributor" did not add anything to the page, merely vandalized it. I removed the offending statement. Jim Steele (talk) 20:33, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You reverted the statement after I deleted it. Do you want it to remain? Jim Steele (talk) 20:38, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, I guess not. — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 20:41, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Scaruffi's music reviews

Hi Jeff, consensus at WP:ALBUM has developed to the point where Scaruffi now seems to be deprecated as a source in the infobox, although he seems OK in the body of articles. Hasn't had wide publicity yet, and edit summaries would help! Just a heads up. --Rodhull andemu 21:07, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the info! — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 21:09, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Problem is that it isn't actual policy and still open to consensus on individual articles; however, that the parent project regards him as no longer usable is highly persuasive. Another minefield.... --Rodhull andemu 21:13, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Mariah Wilkins

Hello Jeff. I noted that you tagged this article for speedy deletion almost a week ago. The author apparently removed the tag very quickly and I just saw the article. I re-tagged it and left a note on the author's talk page. As a "newbie", feel free to let me know if anything was done incorrectly. Thanks! Jim JimVC3 (talk) 22:11, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It appears to have been done correctly enough to get the article deleted, thanks! — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 22:58, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nagendrapsingh

Why my page is being deleted and why is the incorrect page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamish_MacDonald still up? Nagendrapsingh (talk) 22:08, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what you're writing about. The article should be moved from Hamish MacDonald to Hamish McDonald, with all of its edit history intact, as soon as Hamish McDonald is deleted. — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 22:34, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'll do that now. --Rodhull andemu 22:37, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

&

Done --Rodhull andemu 22:40, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, but would you please finish the job and move Talk:Hamish MacDonald to Talk:Hamish McDonald? Thanks again! — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 22:55, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, it should have moved at the same time as the article, but done now. --Rodhull andemu 23:04, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Great! — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 23:14, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

76.234.141.85

Thank you for reverting my edits. I am deeply ashamed for what I have done and have now seen the light. 76.234.141.85 (talk) 23:31, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid your actions speak louder than your words. — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 00:05, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the edit to the Jimmy Hill section

Hi.

Why did you change my edit?

I understand the wiki policy regarding questionable links, but with all due respect, the link I added was entirely relevant to the wiki page (that being, I added a link to Jimmy Hill's official Sonichu website).

I apologise for the earlier edit to your talk page, I wasn't entirely sure of the correct procedure. I think I've worked it out now though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.99.56.250 (talk) 01:28, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia has a rule against new and IP-based editors adding URLs containing "'\b110mb\.com\b'". See User:XLinkBot for details. — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 01:36, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I can see that, and thanks for also pointing it out. But given Mr. Hill is the creator of this cartoon character, and that he has decided to host his webspace with a free domain, should it not be accepted that the link to his latest venture's Official website is relevant to the information? I myself am a massive fan of Sonichu, and it only seems right that given the prospective take-off of his burgeoning character, that he is fully accredited for it on the most popular reference point on the web, Wikipedia.

Thanks for the speedy reply. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.99.56.250 (talk) 01:42, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Beyonce

It is not vandalism. I put a source to which it says she formally wanted to change her name. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiCheckee (talk • contribs) 02:11, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What source, exactly? — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 02:22, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thankyou

		The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		Thanks for defending my talkpage «l\| Ψrometheăn ™\|l» (talk) 02:12, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome! — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 02:18, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism at large

Hi there JEFF, VASCO here,

Now, i "give you" something far more important than a mere PCUPDATE to worry about, and the only reason i am asking for your help is i dont know how to block vandals and, even if i could, would not be able to.

There was a user, more like an "unuser" called PARARUBBAS, whose MODUS OPERANDI consisted in the following: removing brackets and gluing sentences (most needed for article display) but, much much much worse, he removed LINKS and REFERENCES just because!!! Here is a list of his "contributions": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pararubbas

He was thoroughly warned by me, including in what i presume is his mother tongue, as his mine (Portuguese), and also by 2 users that greatly helped me in this one: SATORI SON (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Satori_Son) and BANRAY (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BanRay), and several warnings resulted in several blockings (here is his talk page, so you can see what attention he paid us http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pararubbas).

He changed IP address on a couple of times, either that or someone else had the same way of "contributing", "they" were also warned, and now returned, as "user" 92.2.200.217. First thing he did, on CARLOS CARNEIRO (Portuguese footballer, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Carneiro), was remove links, refs, gluing sentences and removing brackets. Another striking coincidence is that all these different IPs work 100% on PORTUGUESE FOOTBALL, so it's bound to be PARARUBBAS.

All in all, i would highly appreciate if this "user" could be permanently banned, or at least a great great deal amount of time, even though i know he has ways of resolving the block, but at least i hope we (the good users and collaborators, anonymous or not) can give them (the vandals, the stupid contributors) a hard time.

Thank you very much in advance, from PORTUGAL, have a pleasant week,

VASCO AMARAL - --NothingButAGoodNothing (talk) 03:04, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please see User talk:92.2.200.217 and Wikipedia:SOCK#Identification_and_handling_of_suspected_sock_puppets. — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 03:14, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Must be doing something right...

...to get this. Keep up the good work! =D -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 04:56, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Huggle has really helped me with my cluebat speed. :) — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 05:08, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Deletion

The Herald and News article page shouldn't be deleted. It should be expanded and developed. But I'm not going to do it until I'm confident I won't be wasting my time. (JoeTimko (talk) 21:45, 27 October 2008 (UTC))[reply]

Please see my reply at Talk:Herald and News. — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 21:49, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My edit to sex offender.

From what I was recently told, any registered sex offender in Illinois is forbidden to live or be within 1.5 miles of any place where people under 18 congregate. As far as I know, that includes but is not limited to all sub college level schools, parks, playgrounds, and daycare centers. Eborsisk (talk) 22:44, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is that info from a reliable source? Can we verify it? Thanks! — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 00:26, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

Hello, Jeff G. You have new messages at Stereotyper's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

I've found a way round the partial ellipses.--Stereotyper (talk) 16:10, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dr Acula

How can I include in the article how they are significant? They are a fairly well-known band and they deserve a page. Could you help me out with this? I would link to the page but I think it already got deleted. Help? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ripka (talk • contribs) 15:48, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is that info from a reliable source? Can we verify it? Thanks! — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 15:53, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

re: 68.45.253.51's warning level

Initally, I thought it was appropriate considering he had already vandalized the Sonic page twice. While maybe it was harsh and I should've started with the level 2 warning, his further edits of undoing my reverts and nonsense on the talk pages for myself and Thingg seem to suggest he wasn't here to contribute constructively anyway. NeoChaosX (talk, edits) 16:40, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You could have started with a {{subst:uw-bv}} (probably appropriate in this case) or a {{subst:uw-vandalism1}} for a less blatant case. — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 16:46, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pittsburgh Climate

Pittsburgh's climate is clearly not Humid Suptropical. I have never seen a source that claimed that. If one could be found... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.77.26.76 (talk) 17:11, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please see User talk:DavidWS#Koppen_climate_classification for more information on the climatic classification of Pittsburgh. Thanks! — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 17:36, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bill Van Gundy

This article contains an assertion of notability, and as such, is not a candidate for speedy deletion. If you feel that it should be deleted (and I think you could make a reasonable case, if not an ironclad one), then it should go to PROD or AFD instead. -Hit bull, win steak^(Moo!) 17:43, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your opinion. I PRODded it instead. — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 17:57, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Weirton West Virginia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weirton,_West_Virginia

You deleted the whole history of a city. This doesn't make any sense. Please leave the history there.

Where did the history come from? Is it from a reliable source? Can we verify it? Thanks! — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 17:53, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

1) history it self, 2) yes it is available in the Mary H. Weir public Library., 3) you can verify it 3442 Main Street, Weirton, WV 26062,(304) 797-8510, You're Welcome.

I found an online reference, as follows: Fundis, Lois Alete (1992). "Weirton History: A SHORT HISTORY OF THE WEIRTON AREA". Mary H. Weir Public Library, Weirton, West Virginia. Retrieved 2008-10-30. Published since 2004-10-26.

I have added it to the article. — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 16:48, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Misspelling?

What misspelling? --Againme (talk) 17:07, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop creating implausible redirects. Thanks! — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 17:10, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's just the title of a book... If somebody searchs for it not knowing the author, it can be helpful, don't you think so?--Againme (talk) 17:13, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't forget to provide an edit summary for your edits. Thank you. — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 17:21, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again. I do it almost every time. Oh, you mean my edits in your own talk page, sorry fot that. But I think the main issue here is you did not answer my question regarding titles of books.--Againme (talk) 17:26, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, Wikipedia has a search capability for finding an author based on a book title. Were the titles of those books the main subjects of the articles you redirected them to? Sorry, I don't have access to the deleted content. "A girl who spreads light" could be any girl, and "A story writer on the crucifix" could be any writer. — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 17:34, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I thought administrators had to read things before deleting them...--Againme (talk) 17:37, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

They do. Thingg (talk · contribs) read A girl who spreads light before deleting[1] and also read A story writer on the crucifix before deleting[2]. — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 17:43, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your note

In what way do you think this recent edit, fully explained on the Talk page, is unconstructive? NoCal100 (talk) 17:59, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You failed to mention the talk page or a source in your Edit Summary or in the text. — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 18:06, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I was responding, perhaps too harshly, to a personal attack made against me in the previous edit summary (which also made no mention of the Talk page) Do you agree that the edit is constructive, then? If so, please undo your revert. NoCal100 (talk) 18:13, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The PLO appears to have amongst its membership many living persons. Per WP:BLP, we editors have to be very careful to verifiably source any negative allegations about it before placing them in its article. In the case of the information I reverted, even after a careful reading of Talk:Palestine Liberation Organization#Dubious_text, I didn't see sufficient sourcing, so I went further. Here are some sources I used to justify the reversion of myself that I am about to do: [3], many of the sources on Dawson's Field hijackings, and many of the sources on Ma'alot massacre. — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 18:48, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

come on. This has nothing whatsoever to do with BLP, no individual was named. It's ok to make a bad call once in a while, and then revert it. NoCal100 (talk) 19:29, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Jeff, I am an I/P editor dealing with Israeli Palestinian issues, a very difficult area. It requires slow patient work, and a lot of reading before one edits. In an AN/I case, where NoCal popped up, I happened to correct his confusion of 'flaunt' with 'flout'. From that day, he stalks pages I customarily edit, and reverts without intelligent reason mostly, quite consistently. I think your original revert correct. As I said, I had posted a request for comment on my proposed edit in Feb 2008, waited patiently for several months, and no one objected. As soon as I made my edit, within minutes NoCal reverted it. He knows nothing of the subject.

That the PLO has affiliates (the better word) rather than members, was true. There was a huge rift in that organization, with many groups, while affiliated, acting against Arafat, who became the head of that organization. Many used, as with, notoriously, the Ma'alot massacre of May 1974, a terrorist attack to undermine the PLO's head (in the same year the UN officially recognized the PLO), Arafat. In the article, acts undertaken, independently of the PLO's head and deliberative bodies by splinter groups, formerly affiliated, but forming a 'rejectionist front' in the PLO, are all attributed to the PLO, while this crucial factional infighting between Arafat's PLO and the rejectionists is ignored. It thus makes out that Arafat's PLO is responsible for acts of terrorism performed by his dissident adversaries. Every act of terrorism should be specifically assigned to the group that undertook it, and not generically to the PLO, unless the act was specifically condoned, approved or helped by the PLO. This is a matter of being historically NPOV, precise, and consistent with the books on the subject, and not using these articles to create misleading and superficial impressions.

I apologize for the length. I'm in no hurry to revert. Indeed I have withdrawn, as often, when I find a page is about to be troubled by editors who do not appear to understand the complexities, but who hunt round for controversial pages before informing themselves about the topic. This is obviously not your case, since I see both your first edit and second edit were in good faith. No harm done. In the long run, three or four years, these appalling pages will be improved. I should add that the PLO did engage in acts of terrorism, but not many of those frivolously attributed to them by people who don't read serious historical literature dealing with the period and that organization. Regards Nishidani (talk) 20:47, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Which acts of terrorism did the PLO engage in, that are not currently documented in the article? Thanks! — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 21:35, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

MSN TV

hello, the page MSN TV needs fixing, it needs to revert back a ways before the spot where I tried to fix it, much vandalism —Preceding unsigned comment added by Copyrightthieveswillpay (talk) 18:11, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like you got there before I did, good job! — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 18:19, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Islam and Sikhism

Hi Jef

Kindly read the discussion page and you will notice that I am simply restoring the article which was there (yesterday) prior to the vandalism/additions/deletions of October 29th 2008 by User Talk: 90.196.3.37 alias User Talk: 117.96.174.218. All these changes were made without any discussion. Several editors have requested this user to prove/discuss his points in the discussion page first but he did not listen and this user has made several changes/additions without any discussion/consensus on October 29th 2008. Please see:

So I sincerely believe that you mistook my edits, please reply otherwise I would simply restore This Version which was there on October 28th 2008 and by this way this IP will get another opportunity to discuss his reason behind all these major edits. Regards..--Irek Biernat (talk) 18:33, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with you, and I'm sorry for mistaking your edit. Please see User talk:90.196.3.37#October_2008, User talk:117.96.174.218, and this edit. — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 19:07, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your edit

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		Thank you Jeff G. for reverting the vandalism in my talkpage. Much appreciated. ~Beano~^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:19, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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