Talk:List of Harry Potter cast members

transferred

I've transferred all the names from the main Harry Potter article: I suspect there are some more scattered around, and almost certainly several which aren't on Wikipedia at all yet. I'm undecided as to how to re-sort the entries. Should those characters which appear only in the first movie and not again be sorted to the top or the bottom? Suggestions please. --Phil | Talk 14:45, Jul 2, 2004 (UTC)

You might try to sort them by their overall importance in the whole series.

Students/Teachers/Others ? - Nunh-huh 23:20, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Order of appearance? This is usually how they're listed in the film credits at the end. Her Pegship 15:20, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

On another issue, should this be re-named "Cast of Harry Potter films"? Her Pegship 15:20, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Barmy!

I think that, with the exceptions of the trio, Dumbledore, Hagrid, McGonagall and Snape, all of the cast should be listed alphabetically... I'm surprised someone hasn't thought of this by now!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Foxearth (talk • contribs) 10:53, January 31, 2006.

Sorted by name of actor or character? —Phil | Talk 10:18, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

James & Lily

Did they actually appear in the third and fourth films? IMDb claims that they did, but I'm trying and failing to recall their appearances. HTH HAND —Phil | Talk 10:18, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

near the end of the 4th.

They appeared in a photograph on Harry's bedside table in 3, and in the Priori Incantatem in 4. Squidward2602 16:34, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Isaacs confirmed?

Jason Isaacs is confirmed to play Lucius Malfoy? I thought he was likely though not confimed to return....ForestH2 ^{(discuss | contribs)}

Mess

This page is a complete mess. First of all, Saunders Triplets did not play Harry Potter in all 5 films. It's needs a lot of cleanup and I plan to do some after I switch some minor things. Treebark 22:09, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

While I know you weren't aware of it, I think that you need to take a look at the page prior to the major clean-up I performed on it on 7 June, and also before it had categories. Also, I suppose it was rather ambiguous with the Saunders Triplets occupying a cell that spanned five columns, but I don't feel "Baby Harry Potter" merits its own row as we have the attribute '(y)' for younger, so I compromised and went with the way I did Hagrid as younger. I anticipate the changes you're going to make eagerly, but I just thought you should know the drastic changes it's gone through in three weeks' time. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 02:53, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

As far I am concerned it looked really bad having, Baby Harry Potter as Saunders Triplets have 5 columns. Have you fixed all the young verisons? ForestH2 | + | √+ | √ | √- | - 02:57, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

you should probably note "Saunders Triplets (Harry as a baby)" because until I read this, I had no idea what that was a reference to. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.100.207.122 (talk) 23:49, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Remus is/was Hogwarts teacher

I'd categorize Remus as staff of Hogwarts not as a member of the OoP. His role in PoA was significantly greater than his better cameo in OoP. Also Firenze was part of Hogwarts staff for a time, which should qualify him for entry in that category. Whether Moody should be moved to the staff section also is open for discussion as he didn't actually teach himself. --Mirage GSM 10:23, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

List of Harry Potter films cast members → List of Harry Potter films' cast members — Gramatical error, alternatively List of cast members in the Harry Potter films. More wordy but easier to read Simply south 23:18, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Survey

Add  # '''Support'''  or  # '''Oppose'''  on a new line in the appropriate section followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~~~~. Please remember that this survey is not a vote, and please provide an explanation for your recommendation.

Survey - in support of the move

Survey - in opposition to the move

1. Oppose The article name is fine as is. "Harry Potter films" is an adjectival phrase and so doesn't need to be made possessive. If we were only talking about a single film, for example, I don't think anyone would object to "Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire cast members" and want to change it to "Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire 's cast members". "Harry Potter films cast members" is the same as the first construction, but plural. --ShelfSkewed talk 21:36, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
2. Oppose I agree that there is no grammatical error here, and thus in opposition to this move. I have comments below about other moves. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 03:51, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Discussion

Add any additional comments:

• See the convention in Category:Actors by drama television series. I think List of Harry Potter cast members would be best and no one would confuse it for the novels. –Pomte 00:49, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

• That sounds clear to me, until there's a Broadway musical. I support removing "films". Dekimasuよ! 13:51, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
  • When I renamed this page from Harry Potter cast I just wanted to be absolutely clear. I thought that throwing in the "films" wasn't that annoying, and it certainly straightened up any sort of weird doubts one might have. But if there's consensus for just the List of Harry Potter cast members, that's okay with me. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 03:51, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

While the title "List of Harry Potter cast members" may be acceptable to most participants in this debate, there is no compelling reason to move to that title, since there is no problem with the existing title. It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it be moved. --Stemonitis 06:33, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Pomfrey

I saw Pomfrey in the 1st and 3rd movie two she is in the background also I saw Kate Bell,Angelina Johnson Oliver Wood and Alica Spinnet in the 3rd movie at the Imfirmary and the match. and I think Lee Jordan was in the background of the 4th. I don't know where to put this but I saw the back half of Fang in the 3rd movie when Harrys telling Hagrid it will be alright and Trever the Frog in Longbottom's hands when the Fat lady is singing

key

The key indicates various things, but not what dark grey is. 70.55.86.129 07:34, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Susan Bones, Hannah Abbott sources

Um, all of the Hogwarts school students or at least more of them are listed as "Will not be casted" with a reference to this which says nothing about cutting any characters except for Luicus Malfoy in the Ministry of Magic. If someone could point me to the real source we are trying to get or something I missed in the article, please let me know. Hornberry 14:35, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, it's not the most reliable of sources anyway, regardless of the fact that you're right, it doesn't mention any students; I'll remove it. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 23:00, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I see now where the error was. The note "will not be cast" does not apply to all the cells in the section; just to the one whose row it's in. So, Bletchley will not be cast because the source confirms Quidditch is cut. Same with Pucey and Hooch. In any case, though, I'll change the source to a more reliable one which also confirms there's no Quidditch. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 23:02, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Elanor Columbus was seen in a cameo role in the 4th film, can someone edit and add her in GoF219.74.73.237 17:50, 5 August 2007 (UTC)ray

Sorry, it needs a source. Can you find a verifiable citation to prove so? --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 21:33, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

i can't find any internet source for the Eleanor Columbus cameo but I watched the film again today and she is indeed in it. After Harry has returned from the graveyard confrontation and Mr. Diggory is grieving over Cedric's body they show various shots of the crowd. One of them is a shot of Neville and next to him is indeed Eleanor Columbus. (84.196.130.213 (talk) 20:15, 31 October 2008 (UTC))

Deathly Hallows

With the release of the seventh book, it is now possible to fill in the seventh column with dark/light grey cells, corresponding to which characters appear "on-screen" in the book. I'd be happy to make a start on this. Would this be appropriate? Tesseran 05:18, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Personally I feel we shouldn't add a seventh column until all casting is confirmed for the sixth film. Then you could start to get confused with double darks for some characters, or a light and then a dark or a dark and then a light. Best to hold off, I'd say. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 21:34, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Nigel

Why does Nigel have a dark grey cell?68.6.83.188 01:16, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

It's a light grey cell. He does not appear in the book.

Do mentions of seeing people count as appearances?

I would say no. If Harry sees somebody in passing, and that person has no other role (e.g. Cho in HBP), does that person "appear" in the book? Realistically, I think we can determine that the filmmakers aren't going to rehire Katie Leung just so that Harry can see her on the train, but in the Wikipedia way of thinking, what do other people think is the appropriate thing to do? --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 02:58, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Well I think it is a book appearance... But I dont know if Cho will be in the film version (as we know they love to cut stuff out). We'll probably not see her on the train, but you never know. And the thing about "seeing people count as appearances" isnt that the whole deal? I mean, she is seen on the train and therefore appear in the book, she is mentioned in "real time", not like "Oh I saw Cho 5 weeks ago" right? Chandlertalk 14:59, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't have the book handy, but I believe it's something like Harry saw Cho in the distance on the train or something. The reason I bring it up is because the HP Lexicon doesn't count it as an appearance in their Readers' Guide. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 16:53, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

I have the book handy (though not english version), and it is something like: Everybody is trying to get a look at harry, except cho who runs into her compartment. Than harry goes past it and look in at cho to see that she is in a conversation with her friend. Chandlertalk 17:17, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

"The exception was Cho Chang, who darted into her compartment when she saw Harry coming." So it is entirely feasbile that she could be in the film, (although not very likely) just as Harry walks to to the Slug Club. But Harry does see her, the next sentence says Harry looked into her compartment. So she "does" appear in the book. But yeah, things like the many mentions of Stan Shunpike do not count as an appearance. Gran² 17:19, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Very well then. We'll count it as an appearance. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 00:57, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

To clarify, all the people who I added as being seen at Dumbledore's funeral are not simply mentions like, "Harry said, 'Oh, I saw Umbridge a couple hours ago.'" It's the narration of the book saying that Umbridge, and all the other people who I added, are present in the scene but without dialogue. They are seen by the narrator, not the characters. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 14:38, 27 September 2007 (UTC)can someone make jessie caves profile shes been in loads of projects im surprised nobodys made one before

Katie Leung will resume her role as Cho Chang for a brief role. I'd say she would have a line but I think she should be put down regardless. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.202.174.150 (talk) 20:21, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Older versions of List

For those interested as to what this list would have looked like had it been around at the release of films two through five, I have designed four subpages to document this. They can be found at After 2, After 3, After 4 and After 5. At the release of the sixth film I will create another subpage. Please do not edit these pages with factual information; edits should only be made for spelling or formatting. Just something which had been interesting me for a while. It's pretty cool to go back and forth quickly between two pages (using apple+[ and apple+] for me) to show how things progressed between films. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 19:09, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Person in 3rd movie

There was a person in the 3rd movie.... he was the one that read to harry about "the grim"... i dont think he was in the book but he wasnt anyone from the other movies.... does any one know?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Agarden (talk • contribs) 10:45, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

I've read in a few places that his name is "Bem" and played by Ekow Quartey, but there's no source to confirm this, sorry. Ekow Quartey is in the IMDb credits for the film those he's credited as playing "Boy #1" I think. --Fbv65edel — t — c // 03:15, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Characters who could appear in two or more headers

Based on a comment in the edit history, I've just been thinking about somebody like Quirrell who could appear under both the "Hogwarts staff" and "Death Eaters" headers -- what should we do with him? I mean, it would be nice to be complete under either of them, so should we list him twice? That might seem a little unprofessional though. I am still leaning towards Death Eaters but somebody who's only a film watcher would probably associate him more with Hogwarts staff. Any other thoughts? --Fbv65edel — t — c // 03:22, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

No. Including them once is fine, just put them in the area that they are most associated with. As for Quirrell... I suppose he was a teacher for more of the film. Gran² 07:32, 27 January 2008 (UTC

Slightly Creepy Boy = Michael Corner

Though I don't have an "official link" or any source, Slightly creepy boy is in fact Michael Corner, the Ravenclaw guy that dated Ginny Weasley. He appears next to her in the Hog's Head part of the movie. Thought I should at least say it =/

Well, you think it's Michael Corner, and I think it's Michael Corner, but WB doesn't, and that's what makes him Slightly Creepy Boy. If we had a source, I'd change it in a heartbeat. But he's not called that (honestly, for all we know, he could just be John Smith who happens to have Corneresque traits), so we can't change it. Sorry! --Fbv65edel — t — c // 22:25, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

If you've a source/citation, we'll be sure to put it up. BlackPearl14^{Pirate Lord-ess} 23:19, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Colin Creevey

You put a light grey header under colin creevey in "Deathy Hallows" but since colin hasn't appered in any movies after "Chamber of secrets" and the only time we see him in that book is when he's dead, it's very unlikely the actor will come back. they probably won't have a real person play colin's body, and it will probably be nigel that will die. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.150.175.194 (talk) 16:30, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

You never know, everyone doubted Katie Leung would come back to be cast in a scene were she darts into her compartment when she see's Harry but yet they've been proved wrong. So you never know, there's still a possibility. --Jammy (talk) 17:58, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Bellatrix in goblet of fire

Is it possible that bellatrix was cast for goblet of fire, but her scene was cut, and not released on the dvd? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.53.211.199 (talk) 16:38, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

She was in Azkaban in the Goblet of Fire, so why would they add her in the movie? She first appears in Order of the Phoenix, and I wish you would stop asking questions about deleted scenes. --Jammy (talk) 20:30, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Editors shouldn't be answering questions like this one, just deleting them - they're off topic; the purpose of talkpages is to discuss improvements to the relevant articles. In future, just delete these types of 'In universe' questions or answer them on the editor's talkpage. Anchoress · Weigh Anchor · Catacomb 23:16, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Susie Shinner

Susie Shinner redirects here, listed as the actress playing Lily Potter as a young woman in the Potter family article, but she isn't listed here. Anchoress · Weigh Anchor · Catacomb 23:14, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

I'll update the Potter family article. She was originally cast, according to a UK newspaper (forgot which one at the moment) and a studio still was released of her with Harry in the background; however she did not appear in the film nor its credits, and was not in any deleted scenes either. Thus technically he is not in the movie in any form, and there is no source other than photographic evidence, which does not give a definitive statement, to say what happened to her, unlike with, say, Rik Mayall (Peeves), where there exists a source to say he filmed scenes but none were ever distributed. I strongly suspect, in my own personal opinion, that Shinner shot scenes but they just were cut when they trimmed down that scene she was in. However, we'll have to wait for a source to confirm this before we write anything. --Fbv65edel — t — c // 02:17, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Jessie Cave as Lavender Brown!

We need a new page for the cute girl playing Lavender Brown in the sixth movie, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince. I am a noob at creating new pages, so please help! We also need pictures of her in the page, "List of Hogwarts students". Agree with me, she is cute! -N0tverycreative 5:43 pm, April 12, 2008

Tonks' Role as an Auror

Shouldn't Tonks be placed under "Ministry Employees" and not "Other Order Members"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.235.84.102 (talk) 06:44, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Ralph Fiennes

Why is Ralph Fiennes not listed as in the chart as playing Voldemort for the new film? greek lamb (talk) 17:52, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Because he isn't in it. Gran² 18:00, 14 August 2008 (UTC)