User talk:Fabrictramp

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Wikipedia Editor Assistance Request

Dear Wikipedia:

We are attempting to create a Wikipedia Page for Lou Stanasolovich who is founder, CEO and President of Legend Financial Advisors, Inc. in Pittsburgh, PA. Our company Web site is www.legend-financial.com. We are having difficulty once we have created the page, it is being deleted and we are not sure what we are doing wrong. We are putting in descriptive content that uses a neutral point of view and we believe we are complying with Wikipedia's editorial guidelines. We are primarily seeking to post factual biopgraphical information about Mr. Stanasolovich. Mr. Stanasolovich is a highly regarded and an extremely accomplished financial advisory professional who is frequently sought after by the national media and industry conferences to speak about various topics. Our goal is to create a short, factual Wiki about him as his name is often searched upon in search engines due to the media recognition he receives. We have noticed that a friend of ours in the financial advisory profession, Harold Evensky has successfully built a Wiki article and we were attempting to model Lou's after his but it still got deleted. Could you please advise us as to how we can mold the content a certain way in order to create and sustain the article? Also, is there a Wiki customer service contact person we could speak with directly by telephone if we continue to experience problems? We are excited about being part of the Wikipedia community to provide objective information about one of the most prominent figures in the financial advisory profession. Please advise.

Best Regards,

Christopher J. Kail Legend Financial Advisors, Inc. (412) 635-9210 legend@legend-financial.com --LFA061807 (talk) 14:19, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Looks like you posted this a whole lot of places, and it's been answered at User_talk:LFA061807#Your_question_at_User_talk:Toddst1.23Editor_Assistance_Request already.--Fabrictramp | talk to me 16:27, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Deletion review for Merlin_(project_management_software)

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Merlin_(project_management_software). Since you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedy-deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review.

We would like to undelete our page to make it adhere more to Wikipedia's standards. We noticed that our direct competitor | OmniPlan still have their page up. We are willing to follow their page layout to make sure that our page doesn't get deleted. Sorry I am new at this so please let me know if I missed something.

Society of Critical Care Medicine

We put our reply in the discussion section of our article and believe your concerns have now been addressed. Please see the note and let us know if you have any other concerns.

Adding a signed reply just to get the bot to archive this eventually.--Fabrictramp | talk to me 17:01, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

David Godman article

Dear Fabrictramp, I have just read the discussion that led up to the deletion of the article on David Godman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/David_Godman])and I would like to bring this article up to wikipedia standards. I do not think it will be difficult to establish Godman's notability. He has written numerous books and is a leading expert on the Indian Sage Sri Ramana Maharshi and his teachings and disciples. Could you please let me know the best way to proceed? with best wishes, (Iddli (talk) 03:04, 27 October 2008 (UTC))

Basically, my closing summary said it all: "While several editors have asserted notability, reliable independent sources haven't appeared." Check out WP:RS, and if you think you can find what's needed, I'll be glad to provide a copy of the article for you to work on.--Fabrictramp | talk to me 14:56, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Fabrictramp, Here is a quote from New Lives, ISBN 978-8186569498, published by Indica Books, 2004:

"David Godman still lives in Tiruvannamalai, almost 30 years after he arrived. He was the Ashram’s librarian for 7 years, then devoted himself to writing and research. He is now the most important living writer of books about Ramana Maharshi, and is best known for his anthology of Ramana’s writings and dialogues called, “Be As You Are”. To date he has published 11 books…and more are on the way." (This article can be found here: http://www.newlives.freeola.)

And here is the introduction to an interview of David Godman by Maalok (I tried to supply the link on Maalok's site but it triggered a spam filter.):

"David Godman is best known for his book, Be As you Are – The Teachings of Sri Ramana Maharshi (Penguin) which is one of the most articulate and well-organized books on the teachings of Sri Ramana Maharshi. Indeed, this book serves a reader in not only giving an excellent overview of the teachings of the Maharshi, but also provides an in-depth look at the very core of Sri Ramana Maharshi's instruction. David has also written or edited ten other books on Sri Ramana Maharshi, his disciples, and their teachings. David has a natural gift of interspersing the teachings with numerous anecdotes, making the reading easy to comprehend and, more importantly, very enjoyable! In my opinion, each of David's books provides a rare and multi-faceted glimpse into the infiniteness of Sri Ramana Maharshi.

There are two ways in which David's books are clearly unparalleled. First, on reading these books, it is clear that David has put in an immense research effort in ensuring that what is presented is authentic. He has gone to great lengths to verify the facts by corroborating them through multiple archival sources and interviews. The scholarship of these writings is therefore unquestionable. Second, the author and editor, David, is not merely a scholar on Sri Ramana Maharshi. He has been actually living the teachings of Sri Ramana (as will become evident from the interview that follows). After experiencing a state of silence by reading some writings on Sri Ramana Maharshi, David was impelled to visit Ramana's Ashram in 1976. His intention was to make a short trip. However, he never left, and since that time, for the most part, has been living in Tiruvannamalai -- the town in South India where Sri Ramana Maharshi spent all of his adult life. David has lived in the presence of many of Sri Ramana Maharshi's disciples, imbibing and instilling the attitude of devotion and seva to the Guru. In fact, the publishing rights (and monetary gains) of many of his books go directly to the ashrams of the various Gurus. Therefore, in addition to the obvious scholarship of his works, David is able to provide a unique perspective that is indeed experiential. The scholarship and experiential nature of David's writings makes his books a real treasure -- a treat for any reader, a spiritual aspirant or not!"

Please let me know if this is adequate proof of Godman's notability. I would be happy to supply more evidence if you feel more is needed. Thanks for your help, (Iddli (talk) 00:25, 28 October 2008 (UTC))

I really don't need (or want) to see all your arguments for notability here on my talk page. I only need to know that after reading WP:RS you want to give it a whirl. Seems like you do, so I've userfied it to a subpage of yours, User:Iddli/David Godman. Edit it all you like there -- when you think you've resolved the notability issue (and read WP:BIO carefully), put a {{helpme}} tag on your talk page and have an experienced editor look it over.--Fabrictramp | talk to me 00:31, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

OK, thanks. (Iddli (talk) 01:18, 28 October 2008 (UTC))

After reading over the old article and the policies about deleted articles, it seemed that the best thing was simply to start afresh and create a new article, which I did. I appreciate your help. best wishes (Iddli (talk) 04:29, 4 November 2008 (UTC))

Good job! I removed the intro heading and added an uncat tag (and it could use a bit of copyediting), but quite an improvement.--Fabrictramp | talk to me 15:10, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Deletion review for Merlin (project management software)

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Merlin (project management software). Since you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedy-deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Stifle (talk) 15:50, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks -- they notified me up above.--Fabrictramp | talk to me 15:50, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

CSD

Okay, I Get the point. Still, the two articles you posted that got "claimed on notability" still got deleted? ._. II MusLiM HyBRiD II ^{ZOMG BBQ} 00:22, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

If you want to nitpick, I only see one redlink in the list. --Fabrictramp | talk to me 00:28, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Uhh, i didnt nitpick... When i posted this on ur talkp age, it was deleted... see the logs? I cant be ,mistaken. II MusLiM HyBRiD II ^{ZOMG BBQ} 22:43, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Also Per this?? II MusLiM HyBRiD II ^{ZOMG BBQ} 22:49, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

When I posted my reply last night, there was only one redlink on the list, Owain Wyn Evans, which was incorrectly deleted. Soldier First class was (incorrectly) deleted 6 hours later using A1, not the G1 you had tagged it. Megan Baker was also incorrectly deleted later as an A7 after my reply, but has since been recreated. (There were definitely assertions of notability).

I'm not sure what the point is of bringing these up are, unless it's to try to justify your incorrect tagging by pointing out that others are making mistakes, too. At least, that's how it comes across.

If you're keeping score, take a look here. All the edit summaries you see of "Requesting speedy deletion" are deletions that were declined. Yes, you had a lot that were also deleted (hopefully all of them correctly). But every bad deletion request means a potentially valuable new editor may leave wikipedia forever. It also wastes the time of other editors who have to clean up the wreckage, something I spent a lot of time doing last night and this morning.

I hope you'll decide to take a few minutes and read the guidelines I pointed out to you on your talk page. If you do that, and apply them correctly, I'm sure you'll become a great editor and a wonderful asset to wikipedia. But if you blow off warnings and nitpick (yes, I still think your above posts are nitpicking, but perhaps that's because I'm still cranky from the amount of cleanup I did), you will have less and less fun editing. It's up to you.--Fabrictramp | talk to me 23:13, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Please don't delete

I have seen that you deleted an article under construction. This means that it is NOT COMPLETE. It is not fair to do this because no one else got to edit it. I know it did not show significance of the article, but it might later. Thank you for reading thisKittycat0143 (talk) 16:05, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Underconstruction is not a free pass to continue to recreate an article with absolutely no claim of meeting WP:WEB. I gave you some helpful advice on your talkpage about a good way to have plenty of time to build this article. I suggest you try that method. --Fabrictramp | talk to me 16:07, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

it was underconstruction when i first posted it :(Kittycat0143 (talk) 16:10, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I know that. Take a look at Template:Underconstruction -- nothing on it says it's a guarantee that the article won't be deleted. Instead, it says consider not tagging it for deletion. That consideration was made.--Fabrictramp | talk to me 16:15, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Redirect of High like five

Hello, this is a message from an automated bot. A tag has been placed on High like five, by another Wikipedia user, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. The tag claims that it should be speedily deleted because High like five is a redirect to a non-existent page (CSD R1).

To contest the tagging and request that administrators wait before possibly deleting High like five, please affix the template {{hangon}} to the page, and put a note on its talk page. If the article has already been deleted, see the advice and instructions at WP:WMD. Feel free to contact the bot operator if you have any questions about this or any problems with this bot, bearing in mind that this bot is only informing you of the nomination for speedy deletion; it does not perform any nominations or deletions itself. To see the user who deleted the page, click here CSDWarnBot (talk) 22:10, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto! I would have deleted it myself if I knew.--Fabrictramp | talk to me 22:17, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

People from Lake Zurich

You are right - I meant to bulid a category. DOH! Please delete away! --DAW0001 (talk) 22:23, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

 Done--Fabrictramp | talk to me 22:41, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

:)

Thanks for the advice, man! Maybe I'll have another shot after some reading. Have a good evening. Welliottdude (talk) 00:28, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Steve McCabe deletion

hello, RE: Steve McCabe [musician] entry DELETION

can you post something about why this entry may have been deleted? it is referenced by other wikipedia and various other websites and references, and is more worthy than some i have seen, less than others.

I appreciate the need for credibility and support in order to keep wikipedia noteworthy and authoratative, if users could have some other guidelines a bit more specific than 'noteworthy' , 'citations required' etc. would be useful

but hey whatever... you may turn out to be the guy that didn't sign the beatles in 1964!

There are some very specific guidelines, which are WP:BIO and WP:MUSIC. The article didn't have any information that would lead someone to think any of those criteria had been met. While the article was referenced (which I always appreciate), none of the references met the guidelines of WP:RS, and a quick internet search didn't turn up any obvious ones I could use to justify declining the speedy deletion request.

If you want to sign in (or create an account if you don't have one), and if you think you can get the article into a shape where it will meet the above requirements, I'll be glad to [[WP:USERFY|move it to a subpage of your user page] so you can work on it. When you think it's ready, put {{helpme}} on your talk page and have an experienced user look it over.--Fabrictramp | talk to me 14:41, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

GoogleG1 post

Dear Fabrictramp! I am trying to post an article about new smartphones which include every manufacture. This article covers the revolution started by announcement of Google to try its hand in business phone industry. I am providing more information about upcoming phone and unique features like WIMAX which will make an impact by providing high speed surfing at 2 MBPS from Smartphone and will be accesible anywhere in the speed without using the service provider. Please let me know if I can improve anywhere to let this post go on --Tonyshaw1 (talk) 08:04, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

The thing is, there's already an article on this phone. The T-Mobile G1 is the G1 phone that runs Google Android software. If you have new information to add to those articles (and from what you've written multiple times, it looks like everything is already there), the existing articles are the place to do it.--Fabrictramp | talk to me 14:43, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Andorno and Bioethics

Dear Fabrictramp, I have recently written (or completed) two articles in Wikipedia, one about myself (“Roberto Andorno”) and the other one about the International Bioethics Committee of UNESCO (“International Bioethics Committee”). In both cases have appeared warning messages at the top of the articles indicating that “A major contributor to this article or its creator appears to have a conflict of interest with its subject”, that “this article does not cite any references or sources” (in the first case), and that “this article or section is written like an advertisement” (in the second case).

I think those warnings are mistaken, because all the statements included in both articles are based on external sources that can be easily verified and are indicated in the articles themselves. The article on the “International Bioethics Committee” is not an advertisement, but just a description of a body the United Nations. Could you please tell me if (and how) I can remove those warnings? Thank you in advance Roberto Andorno

Wikipedia strongly discourages you from writing about yourself or your organizations. (Please read WP:COI and WP:AUTOBIO.)

While the articles are well referenced (thank you!), the problem with autobiographies and conflict of interest articles is that as human beings it is almost impossible to write in a neutral, unbiased way about ourselves or things we are closely connected to. The tags are placed on those articles to alert readers that such a bias may be in the article, and that the reader should be alert. The International Bioethics Committee article is a good example -- you see it as just a description, but I, as someone with no connection to anything close to it (my only bias might be that in general I think the UN and its agencies do a lot of good work), see it as a press release advertising the work of this committee. Obviously I'm not the only one who reads it that way, since a different editor added the {{advert}} to the article.

So at this point, my advice to you is to stop editing those two articles (except in specific cases laid out in WP:AUTOBIO, either through your account or through your IP addresses. And please don't ask your friends or colleagues to edit the articles, which would still be a WP:COI issue. There is a cleanup task force that reviews articles with conflict of interest problems, so my suggestion is to let them work their way around to it.--Fabrictramp | talk to me 15:04, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/TabletKiosk (2nd nomination)

I added some references to TabletKiosk. You may wish to revisit Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/TabletKiosk (2nd nomination). -- Eastmain (talk) 02:29, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm a bit confused. My only contribution to the discussion was the deletion sorting -- I didn't express an opinion one way or the other. Was there something specific you wanted me to look at?--Fabrictramp | talk to me 14:40, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

• Sorry, my mistake. I saw your name in the history of the article and didn't realize that it was just for deletion sorting. Anyway, the article has been kept now. -- Eastmain (talk) 15:39, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

No problem -- glad I wasn't missing something that was staring me in the face. :)--Fabrictramp | talk to me 17:54, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Call And Response: The Remix Album

I had added a reference from the bands official website (i.e. an official source) and there was a link to an independent retailer (Amazon) offering the album for sale, if this isn't proof that the album is going to be released and therefore a notable release I don't know what is! If you feel the album still isn't notable then nominate the artical for deleation and stop deleating the content yourself.

Just because an album is going to be released doesn't automatically make it notable. Please take a minute to read WP:MUSIC and WP:N. The band's website is not an independent source and being listed on Amazon doesn't show notability, either.

I have not nominated the article for deletion because I don't think it should be deleted. However, there just isn't enough proof of notability for a stand-alone article. WP:MUSIC says "Album articles with little more than a track listing may be more appropriately merged into the artist's main article or discography article", which is what I have done. (Please note that changing an article to a redirect is not considered the same thing as a deletion in wikipedia).--Fabrictramp | talk to me 18:18, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

DVXC (Band) Deletion

Heya. I noticed that the page was deleted, and looking through the "Why was my page deleted" article, I understand why it may have been deleted, but I just wanted to ask what "didn't assert the importance or significance of the subject. using TW" means?

Thanks in advance

Darko (talk) 18:57, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

The full deletion summary was "Speedy deleted per (CSD A7), was an article about a band, singer, musician, or musical ensemble that didn't assert the importance or significance of the subject. using TW". Parsing it out, it means I deleted the article under Wikipedia's Criteria for speedy deletion #A7, which is for article about a band, singer, musician, or musical ensemble that didn't assert the importance or significance of the subject. In other words, there was no assertion that the band meet any of the requirements of WP:MUSIC or WP:Notability. The last part, "using TW", simply indicates which helper script I used to make this a bit easier. Did that answer it?--Fabrictramp | talk to me 01:20, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Reading through WP:MUSIC, I see why now =P And I totally understand. Oh well! Thanks for the clarity! Darko (talk) 05:30, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Baseball Players in the 1990s

I noticed that there were several AZ Diamondbacks players who did not have pages on the Category:Arizona Diamondbacks pitchers {I tried to link but failed}. I added the Joel Adamson page and the link to the stub for 1990s baseball players was deleted and one added for {baseball pitchers born in the 1970s} was added. I, innocently, re-added the {1990s-baseball-pitcher-stub} link that I had actually only left from the Armando Almanza page I was using as a template. When it was deleted a second time, I contacted Waacstats who responded that this had been discussed and finalized in the past leaving the link to the stub sorting page WP:WSS/P but I did not find it, suspecting that the problem was I did not know how long ago this discussion occurred. Waacstats also commented that you were the only baseball person to resond. I am principally interested in why a solution of both is not the best choice, but additionally, as I largely do not care when a player was born and if I was searching around, when a player played would probably be the most useful information. Autkm (talk) 20:17, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Looks like this was discussed in September (Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Baseball/Archive_7#Stub_sorting)

IIRC, my response to the proposal was that the original way ({{1990s-baseball-pitcher-stub}}) was chosen because it made it easier for references, but that the new way (and I don't remember why the change was proposed) wouldn't be the end of the world -- if you knew a player played in the 1990s, they were more than likely born in the 1970s or 1960s. I still think the old way is slightly better for readers and editors, but I didn't think it would be a huge deal.

If it's bothering you, feel free to bring it up again at the stub sorting page. :) --Fabrictramp | talk to me 20:49, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Eloisa Mcloughlin

Hi, I see you've just fixed the capitalisation of the "M" in the name of this article. I wonder though if it's correct yet. Sometimes the "L" would be a capital too. It's only one of several issues with the article, but it'd be good to check just now while the issue's in mind. (Although I guess maybe you were just checking recent article creations, but perhaps you know of the subject?) 81.178.67.229 (talk) 22:12, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Just going through new articles, and figured the case should at least match the usage in the article. :) --Fabrictramp | talk to me 22:15, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Nikkeynikkey

Hi Fabrictramp. Thanks for your feedback on the Douglas September page. I added some references as requested, can you specify other areas that require verification if needed, or if it's sufficient. Any other rrecommendations? Slowly getting the hang of this and I appreciate your input. --Nikkeynikkey (talk) 21:59, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Citing_sources#When_to_cite_sources and Wikipedia:Verifiability have some good information about sourcing articles and a worth the read.

Just a few comments on what's there: I'd recommend a some quality independent reliable sources if you want to ensure no one comes along and requests deletion on this article. The uncut.co.uk link isn't showing September's notability at all, and the www.chrisjensen.com link is a press release. They're a start, but by themselves aren't enough to meet WP:Notability.

Also, the external links section is closing to begging for a linkfarm template. Probably just the link to www.douglasseptember.com is all that's needed.

HTH!--Fabrictramp | talk to me 22:17, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

^{Superscript text}

I'm sorry, there is an uncut reference link on the page. the link http://www.uncut.co.uk/music/bob_dylan/special_features/27 is there as reference 3

On the page (about half way down) it states:

Tracks Influenced by Bob Dylan

1. Douglas September - Lady & I Taken from the Gold Circle album TEN BULLS Haling from Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, poet, painter, storyteller and singer-songwriter Douglas September cites among his heroes Tom Waits, Captain Beefheart, and Rimbaud. But the name of Bob Dylan heads the list. With its lyrical reference to “Desolation Row” and extraordinarily Dylanesque voice, “Lady & I” first appeared on his 1997 self-released debut, but was re-recorded for his first commercially available album, 1998's Ten Bulls in this superior version with Bill Frisell on guitar. September's last album, 2001's Oil Tan Bow, included versions of Dylan's “Girl From The North Country” and Woody Guthrie's “I Ain't Got No Home”.

Isn't that sufficient? I am working to find many of his reviews from the sources, I am hoping other fans will help now that his page is up. Your help is appreciated. --Nikkeynikkey (talk) 22:52, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Also added all music guide as a reference [1] does that help? really trying :) --Nikkeynikkey (talk) 23:01, 11 November 2008 (UTC)