User talk:J.delanoy

My wheel-warring policy:

Admins: If you see me make a logged action that you think I should not have done, I will not consider it wheel-warring if you undo it without asking for my permission. However, if I marked the action as being done after running a checkuser query, or as part of a sockpuppet investigation, you should ask me or another checkuser before undoing it. In any case, if you do revert one of my actions, I would appreciate it if you tell me that you did so. Thanks!

Chess, anyone?

Make a move...

J.delanoy vs. World
Chessboard	Moves
a b c d e f g h 8 8 7 7 6 6 5 5 4 4 3 3 2 2 1 1 a b c d e f g h
	J.delanoy to move...
	# J.delanoy World 1 e4 e6 2 d4 Nf6 3 Bd3 Bb4+ 4 Bd2 Na6 5 a3 Bxd2+ 6 Qxd2 c5 7 Nf3 O-O 8 e5 Nd5 9 Nc3 Nxc3 10 Qxc3 cxd4 11 Nxd4 Qg5 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30

Ceranthor RFA

moved to a new section by me, since it is an entirely different conversation -- J.delanoy

Not to sound actually confident (which I'm not), but I'm considering running for adminship within the next three months. I've been looked over by some admins, but none of them are consistent vandal fighters as you are. Would it be possible for you to look over my edits, and possibly give me some advice regarding them? —Ceran^{(dream / discover)} 02:58, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

I'd be happy to! :D If you want, answer the questions on my /RFA page. I'm likely going to have a lot of homework over the weekend, but most of it should be done by next Tuesday or Wednesday. Just so you know. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 03:04, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Alrighty then! Please remember I'm just giving you this info, not actually asking you to consider nominating me... yet.

1. Have you ever been blocked?

   No.

   1. If so, when?

      N/A

   2. For what?

      N/A

2. Ever had an Editor Review?

   Yes, this one and this one.

3. An RfA?

   Nope.

4. What (if any) horrible skeletons lie in your editing closet?

   Once, I asked another editor to nominate an article only to briefly try and fix it up and then passed it. Otherwise I'm pretty clean.

5. Got much recent experience at AfD?

   Yes, I'm a regular contributor. I only contribute to say, 2 AFDs a day to limit the "drive-by" comments and get into further depth with them.

6. Are there any major mainspace contribs or other substantial edits that you are particularly proud of?

   Yes, see my bragsheet.

7. Is there anyone else who has expressed interest in nomming you for adminship?

   Juliancolton said he would consider it after more AIV experience, I believe.

8. Is there anyone specific (other than me :-) ) you would have particularly liked to nominate you? (If yes, I can ask them if they would like to co-nom.)

   Possibly Julian, and eventually Pedro, once I have satisfied him... (never) ;) —Ceran^{(dream / discover)} 03:17, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I just finished looking at summaries of your contribs from various tools, and your bragsheet... O_O Wow. I mean wow. How aren't you already an admin?

Unfortunately, I don't see much recent experience at AIV. While from my own experience vandal-fighting is pretty straightforward, you may get opposed for that. On the other hand, I am apparently one of the "resident gurus" when it comes to vandal-fighting, so my name in the nom spot may do something dispel those concerns. I saw you on Huggle a few days ago, and you were absolutely excellent. I was surprised to see you weren't an admin. I thought about asking you if you wanted to run then, but I kind of let it slip my mind.

One last thing. On your ER only like 7 weeks ago, Pedro was worried that you would leave the project if you failed an RFA. Do you think you would be able to take it psychologically in the (IMO) unlikely event that you failed? Because the last thing I want to do is indirectly drive you away. You're too good for that. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 03:55, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Um, definitely not. I'm not really offended by things like that, but in the case of an premature FAC I submitted I was already in a foul mood. —Ceran↕(talk) 13:13, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

So, when do you want to go for it? J.delanoy^gabs_adds 19:37, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Um, gimme some time. I want to do some more AIV work, and I'm not completely convinced yet. —Ceran↕(talk) 23:15, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

My Contribs?

Hey, not to bug you if you're doing homework, but I'm curious if you reviewed my contribs (regarding an RfA) yet. Just wondering, _David^WS _(contribs) 16:37, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Yeah. I have. I've been putting off saying anything because I really do not want to have to tell you that I do not think it is likely that you will pass. According to SQL's editcounter tool, nearly 90% of your edits were made with Huggle. People at RFA tend to oppose "Huggle-bots", so... Oh, god I hate to have to tell you this :-( Please don't feel too downhearted. You are doing a lot of good for this project. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 16:50, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

*sigh* Okay. You (absolutely no offense intended, just pointing this out) seem to be a "hugglebot". What do you think I'd need to do to succeed, then? I've seen people pass w/o major article building work. With a sigh, _David^WS _(contribs) 17:00, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

I honestly have no idea how I passed an RFA. I think it was probably because my nominator is an fairly prolific article writer. Also, he really liked this comment. Apparently, quite a few other people did too, based on some of the supports I received.

As far as what you have to do to pass, do not get involved in an area you have no interest in just to pass an RFA. It is almost impossible to hide your true nature, and it will be obvious if you are doing something just to pass an RFA. I reverted apporximately 45000 vandalisms over nearly 6 months before I passed an RFA. And practically the only reason I got nommed and passed as soon as I did is because I happened to make a comment like that. The best thing to do is just keep plugging away at what you like doing. Being an admin is really overrated. Sure you can block people delete and protect page, and other stuff, but it's not really that great. If your goal in being an admin is just to be an admin, you will be very disappointed if/when you actually do get the bit. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 17:22, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

It's not really my main goal at the project, which is to help the project in all ways I can. The reason I want adminship is to help the project by blocking vandals, deleting CSDd pages, etc. I don't understand why people feel you need article work to become a sysop, as being a sysop, you're even less likely to spend your time on the wiki doing that. Shrug. _David^WS _(contribs) 18:43, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Yeah. As far as people wanting to see article contibs, I understand where those people are coming from, I just don't agree with them. The reasoning is, if you have not worked in the mainspace, you don't understand what it takes, so you will be unnecessarily harsh with deletions and protections. Again, I don't agree with this position, but I can understand it. Aervanath's recent very close RFA passing has, IMO, the potential to dispel this notion if he does a good job as an admin, but I don't know. It will be interesting to see what happens. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 18:50, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay. Well, I suppose I'll never end up a sysop then, which I guess is okay....I don't want to get involved in an area just to pass, but I think it should be possible to pass with just minimal experience in article writing.  :-( _David^WS _(contribs) 18:54, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

DON'T SAY THAT!!!! I didn't think I had any chance of ever passing when I had as many edits as you do now. (that sounds condescending, but it is not meant to be.) And yet, my second RFA had >92% support. And I didn't develop an awesome wikitool either! Just do what you like doing, and sooner or later, people will support your RFA just to get you off of AIV and CAT:CSD :P J.delanoy^gabs_adds 18:58, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Shrug...which reminds me, would a think sorta like AIV Console (maybe called CSD Console) that monitors pages tagged for speedy deletion. You'd basically be able to easily view and delete pages tagged (or is that easy enough to do without a special program)? _David^WS _(contribs) 19:03, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Are there any other tools you might find useful (sysop-only or not)? _David^WS _(contribs) 20:01, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Hmm. My dashboard and Twinkle do pretty well for speedy deletions. I can't really think of anything else offhand that would be really useful. Huggle and your AIV console pretty much take care of vandalism, and AWB can automate many other tasks. I'll let you know if I come up with something. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 20:53, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay, cool. Well, let me know. _David^WS _(contribs) 20:58, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Shrug...apparently the next version of Huggle will have CSD Console-type support. In other news, I wrote my first article that's not a stub, yay! _David^WS _(contribs) 00:21, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

J., sorry to pop in here, but how high a percentage of Huggle edits have you found is too high based on current consensus?--otherlleft (talk) 23:13, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Long version: Based on my observations, people at RFA do not generally take into account the raw percentage of edits made with automated tools, because tools (especially Huggle) skew everything so radically. You can make thousands upon thousands of edits in a very short time using Huggle. I once made 3452 edits in one day - a calender day to boot, not merely a 24-hour period (some have been deleted in the interval, but you get the idea). At the same time, it is not impossible to write a featured article from scratch with less than 150 edits, including the FAC.

Thus, the thing people tend to look at with serial vandal-fighters is not so much "86% of his edits were made with Huggle.", but "OK, he uses Huggle. Cool. Does this guy also know how to write?" If you had 50000 edits, and ~43000 of them were with Huggle, but your other 7000 edits included a GA and/or an FA, and maybe a couple of DYKs, you would sail through RFA. (assuming the rest - behavior, clue, interaction - pans out OK) In that case, your automated tools would likely propel you towards success, since by writing FAs and fighting vandalism, you demonstrate interest in an unusually wide spectrum of the project. Most people (myself included) find this nearly impossible to do, so when someone who can do it stands at RFA, the result is generally not difficult to foresee.

'Short version: As long as you can present clear evidence that you know how to write, it is unlikely that Huggle will sink your RFA, regardless of the percentages involved. I hope that helps. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 23:45, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Awfully helpful, thanks! I am very interested in getting a particular article up to GS and then FA status, and I Huggle when I'm bored. Like Thingg, I have learned to stop and take a look at the article when it's not clear what on earth is going on - like when the version to rollback to looks worse than the current one . . . man I hate team vandalism!--otherlleft (talk) 23:58, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Something screwy going on...

Hi, JD. Please take a look at this and you'll see a fairly routine (if nasty and protracted) block of a puppetmaster and numerous socks. But there is something screwy going on here: This appears to show that Dddike (talk · contribs) is indefinitely blocked. However, this appears to show that Dddike is an alias of Regushee, who does not appear to be blocked. And this morning, User talk:Dddike was (again?) maliciously turned into a browser-crashing mess by Dddike. I rolled it back, but...um...like...huh? I've no recent beef with Regushee/Dddike, though s/he certainly has made problems in the past. I've asked parts of this question over on User talk:Krimpet, but it looks like it'll probably be awhile before he gets to it. What say ye? —Scheinwerfermann ^T·_C15:15, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Looks like Krimpet already got him. From what I can see, the person who originally signed up as Dddike got renamed, and Grawp took over the now-unused account. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 18:28, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Oh by the way...

I've decided that you are indeed a bot of supreme intelligence. This is great, except you are running without permission, and you are not marking your edits with the bot flag. Therefore, I suggest you request permission to continue to run. I want to talk to your creator, the person who made a bot that can read English naturally. _David^WS _(contribs) 15:26, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

I second that and urge the creator to reveal the technology as it would very valuable to the world. :D--Res2216firestar 16:49, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

J.delanoy is is the name of a seventh-dynasty emperor on Kanda Four...a mytho-historical hunter on Shantil Three...a colony on Malindi Seven...a frozen dessert on Razna Five... —Scheinwerfermann ^T·_C17:18, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Ha Ha Ha Ha Haaaaaaa!!! Oh, man!!!! You guys crack me up! Best laugh I've had in waaaayyyy too long! Wow, I'm literally crying, hahahaha!!! J.delanoy^gabs_adds 18:18, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Wow, a bot that can laugh. Now I am seriously impressed. Oh bot creator, please reveal your wonderful AI's secrets. _David^WS _(contribs) 18:22, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Haha! I say I'm not a bot, you say I am. How can you prove I'm a bot? How can I prove I'm not? That is the question... J.delanoy^gabs_adds 18:25, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Wow, a bot that can take philosophy class. This is an amazing sight we're witnessing. _David^WS _(contribs) 18:27, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Ask me a question no bot could possibly answer... J.delanoy^gabs_adds 18:31, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

This section contains no reliable sources. I'm considering nominating it for speedy deletion. --GraemeL ^(talk) 18:32, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

<ref>http://whatcolorisnovember.net/index.html</ref> J.delanoy^gabs_adds 18:35, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

However, you are unlike any other bot the planet has ever witnessed. Therefore, you are able to answer all questions. The evidence of this notion is that you have 160000 edits over 6 months, and revert vandalism in less than 0.0000001^-10 seconds after seeing it. _David^WS _(contribs) 18:33, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

I have 160000 edits? J.delanoy^gabs_adds 18:35, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Indeed you do. You have broken all edit counters with your superiority. _David^WS _(contribs) 18:38, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

I have it on good authority that this user is actually from a distant future where Wikipedia is no longer vandalized. He was sent back in time to aid the current crop of vandal fighters and hasten the day when the project becomes vandalism free. Since he has a log of all vandalism edits between now and the day when vandalism ceases, he is able to be in position to revert vandal attacks mere nanoseconds after they occur. --GraemeL ^(talk) 18:43, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

←(to GraemeL) Damn you, my data showed no one ever found me out. Curses!

(to David) No, I just put the wrong link. try http://toolserver.org/~sql/sqlbot.php?user=J.delanoy J.delanoy^gabs_adds 18:45, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

As a side note, I am progressing psychologically. I've finally admitted that I am at least partially insane... J.delanoy^gabs_adds 18:48, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: Protected Status for the 2008 Presidential elections

Hi, I came across a number of grammatical errors on the article page for the 2008 Pres. elections. I wanted to do an edit and was informed you have locked it. If you would like a list of the errors, please do reply. Thanks, Heeru —Preceding unsigned comment added by Heeru01 (talk • contribs) 17:35, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi Heeru.

The page is only locked to anonymous users and new registered users. You are free to edit the page to your heart's content. Cheers! J.delanoy^gabs_adds 18:23, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

how do you fix pages so quick?

Status

Reminder: It appears that you forgot to change your status. -- IRP ☎ 18:40, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Got it. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 18:41, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Your recent block

It appears that you jumped the gun on blocking Paigntonuk. Someone left a note at AIV here -- IRP ☎ 01:47, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

User:Paigntonuk

Hi, J.delanoy. I was attempting to help the above user (seems to be confused about moving pages, not vandalizing), when I noticed you blocked him. Since it doesn't seem that the user is behaving in any malicious manner, it seems a bit hasty to indef block him. Anyways, I didn't want to unblock him without checking with you first. Regards, Parsecboy (talk) 01:49, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for yelling at me. I should have looked closer, I just saw him blanking pages and replacing pages and assumed he was vandalizing. I left a note on his talk page. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 01:52, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I wasn't yelling :) Sometimes we all get a bit of an itchy trigger-finger, and need somebody to slap us with a trout. I know I do from time to time. Regards, Parsecboy (talk) 01:56, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism

The moment you unprotected the Galileo article, it was swamped with vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.139.116.24 (talk) 17:04, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

I know. There was a request on RFPP to unprotect it, and I decided to give it a shot. No 100% sure why you're telling me this now; someone else already re-semiprotected it 3 days ago. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 17:50, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Question

Where did you find this tool? --Kanonkas :  Talk  19:09, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Found it at Wikipedia:AIV Console. Best regards, --Kanonkas :  Talk  20:06, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Oh, you're using it? Cool. Let me know if you need any features implemented. _David^WS _(contribs) 20:10, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

How did you create the Chess Game???

I am very curious about this and would be interested in doing the same thing on my talk page

--Ciscokid21 (talk) 20:51, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

The chessboard itself, along with instructions on how to use it, is located at Template:Chess diagram. I did not write it. I did, however, write the borders, as well as the scrolling record of moves made. A blank version of the board (you can copy/paste/tweak the code) is located here. Cheers! J.delanoy^gabs_adds 20:56, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Thnx! however it may take me a while to create it being a "beginner" but I will hopefully be sucessful with it :-) The Cisco Kid :-) (Talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 23:28, 17 November 2008 (UTC).

No problem :D If you're having trouble and can't figure out something, I may be able to help, so feel free to ask if you want. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 23:50, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Protection request

Please semi-protect User talk:82.110.221.77 because some people using that IP address have vandalized the page by removing the "Attention" dialog box. Please see the page history. -- IRP ☎ 22:11, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

I really don't think that's necessary. It was just one person one time, and I doubt they'll do it again. If they do, you should probably bug someone about it. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 22:53, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

I was thinking that after it was protected, I would create User talk:82.110.221.77/Unprotected, where they can post messages, and the main talk page for that IP will be only for the users to view their warnings. -- IRP ☎ 23:11, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the clean-up

here Thing went nuts when I went to restore all but one revision StarM 22:14, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

No, you were fine. Someone went to fake "vandalize" your page, but they saved the edit after you deleted the page. That messed it up when you tried to revert him. Then when I deleted it the first time, I didn't realize it would show up that someone else had added all that content, and forged someone's sig. Since it was not my talk page, I didn't want to mess up your talk page for 25 minutes while I figured it out. So I just gave up, deleted everything after the one guy's comment, and manually re-added the rest, with a note in the edit summary to preserve the history as well as I could. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 22:51, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, brewcrewer thought I was disappearing again. I wish we had a cluebat for people who just want to stir up shit like Ousby and his friends/managers whatever. They need to get the clue and go away, hope the final warning will get it. Just post it to the SSP page and be done. At least Delldot is harmless, even if he's feigning ignorance poorly. Have a good night! I'm off to free dinner, woot! StarM 23:07, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

AIV closure

According to User:Neurolysis, only administrators are allowed to close AIV reports, but User:GraemeL is in opposition of this. Should I close AIV reports in the future? -- IRP ☎ 00:44, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

I have no idea. I also don't know why anyone other than an admin would want to close a report. I left comments on one or two reports before I was an admin, but I never saw the point of closing reports there. I always assumed that admins would be smart enough to tell whether someone would need to be blocked or no. Although there is no set-in-stone rule like there is at AFD, but I would not recommend closing AIV reports. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 00:49, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Sounds reasonable. I'm suffering from AIV fatigue today. --GraemeL ^(talk) 00:51, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

I just O_O'ed your log. Seriously, there are other admins who patrol AIV ;-) J.delanoy^gabs_adds 00:57, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

They were coming in thick and fast earlier with 3 of us working blocks at the same time and still getting backlogged. It's quietened down now, perhaps the UK schools were on holiday yesterday and had a lot of vandalism to catch up on. --GraemeL ^(talk) 01:01, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

In my view, it is OK to close it if you have the judgment. Here, I knew that the user was not warned sufficiently. The user had only received one warning. As long as the justification of the closure is accurate, I don't see a problem. Do you know who I should ask for a good recommendation? Perhaps propose a policy of who is and who isn't allowed to close AIV reports? -- IRP ☎ 01:18, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

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srry, I know you have to get to your homework so I will just wait and see

User 66.31.99.27 suspected vandalism

Hi.

I noticed a modification by 66.31.99.27 on 23 Aug 2008 to Yamaha. I believe this is vandalism. You hava already warned this user; could you take a look and, if you feel it necessary, intervene again?

Thanks.

Páraic Maguire 23:30, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

hot bulb

you reverted back to false statements without refs. i can back up anything you have a question about with original documents pictures and drawings and laws of physics. be so kind to come up with some refs with your decision based on what ????? thank you Wdl1961 (talk) 01:51, 19 November 2008 (UTC) sorry i missed your reply by a few minutes .thanks for reading it. if you have any questions i got email and i can call you with skype.Wdl1961 (talk) 02:09, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: Request

Hey Gurch!

If it's not too much trouble, and you get a chance, could you upload Huggle's entire project file to Google Code? Your new version has continued producing a random glitch on my system, and I think I could fix it. No one I have spoken to has been able to replicate the bug, so I think it's a problem with my hardware, unfortunately, I cannot figure out what is causing it. Thanks, J.delanoy^gabs_adds 19:14, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Er... as far as I'm aware the entire project is on Google Code. What's missing? -- Gurch (talk) 05:13, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the checkuser request

I hope this sockpuppeteer realizes that the reason I maintain a {{user Vandalized}} template on my user page is as a badge of honour, like a soldier's battle scars. The higher the number, the prouder I feel. :-) -- Blanchardb -^{Me•MyEars•MyMouth}- timed 16:05, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

No problem. And LOL :D J.delanoy^gabs_adds 16:06, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

A request for your Chess Game...

If you want them of course... (Here) —Preceding undated comment was added at 16:52, 19 November 2008 (UTC).

header added 12

get rid of "gabs" after your user name - it looks pretty stupid —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jwc4jwc4 (talk • contribs) 17:51, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Also the plural of uerbox is userboxes - not userboxen - are you a Grman Nazi?

Just telling you what it looks like. It looks stupid.

Um, does it break any rules that this editor's page claims adminship?--otherlleft (talk) 19:08, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't know for sure. However, his page was a direct copy/paste of User:Thingg, so I blanked it. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 19:15, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

for your chess

ya but you would also end up with "worlds" rook and two pawns!

(its a good move) ;-)

--Ciscokid21 (talk) 18:51, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

srry but its kinda to late anyway :-( —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ciscokid21 (talk • contribs) 18:52, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

This game is much to popular for me to ever make a move. I should put one on my page . . . maybe it'll get a move a year!--otherlleft (talk) 19:04, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Golden Tee page (wow, that was fast)

Hey, I'm assuming that you spotted my joke on the Golden Tee wiki and changed it. Sorry about that, it was just a joke geared toward this year's World Champion and friend, Andy Haas.

I'm actually a former champion and we like to rip on each other from time to time, so the wiki page seemed like a logical place to go. Again, sorry for the inconvenience and it won't happen again.

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.122.83.176 (talk) 19:02, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Chess! (talk of course!)

maybe we are just confused about this because when I wrote that, it was in the following posn. (or something very similar to it)

|  |  |  |pd|
|kd|  |  |pl|
|  |pd|kl|  |
|  |pd|  |  |
|  |rd|  |  |

and you could have moved here...

|  |  |  |pd|
|kd|  |  |pl|
|  |rl|kl|  |
|  |pd|  |  |
|  |rd|  |  |

P.S. DON'T RESIGN!

--Ciscokid21 (talk) 19:52, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Response

This is rather complicated, so I hope you can stay with me...

The starting position was like this:

|  |  |  |pd|
|kd|  |  |pl|
|  |pd|  |  |
|  |pd|kl|  |
|  |  |pl|  |
|  |rd|  |  |

If I take his pawn with my rook, it becomes

|  |  |  |pd|
|kd|  |  |pl|
|  |rl|  |  |
|  |pd|kl|  |
|  |  |pl|  |
|  |rd|  |  |

From there, the best possible sequence for me is as follows:

pd x pl

|  |  |  |pd|
|kd|  |  |pl|
|  |rl|  |  |
|  |  |kl|  |
|  |  |pd|  |
|  |rd|  |  |

kl x pd

|  |  |  |pd|
|kd|  |  |pl|
|  |rl|  |  |
|  |  |  |  |
|  |  |kl|  |
|  |rd|  |  |

rd x rl

|  |  |  |pd|
|kd|  |  |pl|
|  |rd|  |  |
|  |  |  |  |
|  |  |kl|  |
|  |  |  |  |

This leaves me with a knight and two pawns against his rook and pawn/

The worst case scenario (that is remotely plausible) is as follows:

I take his pawn with my rook. Then...

pd x pl

|  |  |  |pd|
|kd|  |  |pl|
|  |rl|  |  |
|  |  |kl|  |
|  |  |pd|  |
|  |rd|  |  |

rl x rd

|  |  |  |pd|
|kd|  |  |pl|
|  |  |  |  |
|  |  |kl|  |
|  |  |pd|  |
|  |rl|  |  |

pd x rl = Q

|  |  |  |pd|
|kd|  |  |pl|
|  |  |  |  |
|  |  |kl|  |
|  |  |  |  |
|  |qd|  |  |

This leaves me with a knight and two pawns against his queen and pawn. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 20:08, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Notice of request for deletion of editor J.delanoy :)

J.delanoy, the editor you are, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that you satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space. Your opinions on yourself are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at User:GlassCobra/Editor for deletion#J.delanoy and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit during the discussion but should not remove the nomination (unless you wish not to participate); such removal will not end the deletion discussion (actually it will). Thank you, and have a good sense of humor :).--otherlleft (talk) 20:23, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

hahahaaa!!! Don't forget to add the EFD notice to my userpages. :D :D :D J.delanoy^gabs_adds 20:27, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, your userpage is impregnable. Also proof that you're a bot, of course . . .

Your evil plot will never succeed now! No one will delete me because the community has not been appropriately notified of the discussion! Mwahahahaaa!!!!! J.delanoy^gabs_adds 20:33, 19 November 2008 (UTC) Just add it above everything else on my userpage. Who put that there???!!

I think it's going to be very difficult for some of us to keep within the "1% of posts" rule for that page . . . which is where you have an unfair advantage. What would that be, about 500 edits per day?--otherlleft (talk) 20:40, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Times like this are why we have WP:IAR :P J.delanoy^gabs_adds 20:43, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

more about chess

okay, I guess I just misunderstood the board for a second (what is this thing about you being deleted as an editor??? I mean heck, you caught everything I ever did and will never do agian!)

IDK maybe I just don't understand this like the chess game

--Ciscokid21 (talk) 20:53, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

The Editor for Deletion page and process is just a joke. It is a parody of WP:Articles for deletion, and people just good-naturedly make fun of each other on the "trial" page. In any case, it isn't even physically possible to delete an editor. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 20:56, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Not possible? Sure it is: J.delanoy^gabs_adds See?--otherlleft (talk) 21:49, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

okay, it just kinda worried or something that you might get "de-promated" (you should make a move on my Chess Game and start using your knight to give yourself an advantage ;-) )

--Ciscokid21 (talk) 21:05, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Yeah. Anyways, if I move my knight, I lose. I'm not sure what I will move. I am 75% sure that I have no way of winning. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 21:45, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Not possible to delete an editor? Oh, it can be done…, you just haven't yet reached the appropriate stage of enlightenment in the Secret Lore of The Cabal™. (Not only can it be done, but it causes a true pain when it's done, as that editor's edits become attributed to whoever edited the page next – meaning unsuspecting typo-fixers, categorisers etc find themselves credited with assorted spam and attack pages) – iridescent 22:34, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps, but I still think it would be slightly difficult to explain how I could amass this without making any edits..... J.delanoy^gabs_adds 22:39, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Jwc4jwc4

I'm sure you're already aware, but I've blocked Jwc4jwc4 for 48 hours, which IMO is lenient given his history of disruption, highly dubious edits and general conduct. AGF is all very well, but IMO the possibility of anything positive coming from this user in the next couple of days is more than outweighed by the time wasted cleaning up his messes. If you think I'm being harsh, you have my explicit consent to unblock without it being considered wheel-warring. – iridescent 21:57, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Nope, no objections here. I considered threatening a block, but I decided not to. Thanks. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 22:21, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

(even) more about chess

(I know, it is kinda getting old) but maybe you should move your rook down to threaten his pawn NO! don't do what I just said because then world would just check you and then you would take the rook then world would queen!!! :-O (omg!)

P.S. do you really eat cocanuts while reverting valndalism???

P.S.S. srry but you lost that game, all "world" needs to do is sacrifice there rook and place you in check, then queen, and then the game is over. :-(

P.S.S.S. what is these video game progects that I have heard of??? (I was just looking through your User Page! and was somewhat interested in it yet somewhat concerned because maybe Wiki might then be BLOCKED!!! :O anyways, I just thought I would find out a little more B4 signing up for anything!) (srry, you must be doing your homework)

--Ciscokid21 (talk) 23:04, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

No, I just didn't see this. Here's some answers.

1. Once in a while, yes. I can't afford coconuts too much, but I really like them, and I thought having a userbox about them would be funny.
2. No, not yet. I can still put world in check, and I'm running through some various scenarios in my head. there is a greater than zero chance I may be able to force a draw by three-fold repetition.
3. The groups are called Wikiprojects. Wikiprojects are just groups of editors who are interested in similar things. Most are pretty much inactive, but for whatever reason, I left my name in their memberships. As far as you being blocked, I'm not sure if this is what you meant, but anyone can join Wikiprojects, and even if you couldn't, you certainly wouldn't be blocked for trying. If you use common sense (i.e. don't vandalize, stalk people, or keep doing something after being told to stop), are civil, and don't violate the three-revert rule, you will never be blocked. My advice to you is, if you want to do something, just do it. There is nothing you can do that is irreversible, so feel free to do whatever you want. (within reason... :P ) If you make a mistake, as long as you don't intentionally repeat whatever it was you did wrong, all that will happen is someone will tell you that you did something wrong. Even if you were an admin, and your sysop bit was taken from you for something you did wrong, it will most likely be re-instated if you admit that you were wrong and apologize. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 23:14, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Can you seriously not afford coconuts (that often)? I shall buy you coconuts for Christmas or Chanukah if that is the case. _David^WS _(contribs) 23:21, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

No, not really. It's just that it's not really that great a use of my money. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 23:22, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Ah. In that case, expect yourself to be bombarded with coconuts come Christmas. (If you were a good boy. Satan (Santa) doesn't like bad ones). _David^WS _(contribs) 23:26, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

But you don't know where I live. Are you going to write Santa a letter for me? :P J.delanoy^gabs_adds 23:28, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

No, I'll write another myth a letter. I heard he likes coconuts. Do you like young coconuts or mature coconuts? I shall stalk you to bombard you with them. _David^WS _(contribs) 23:33, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Hey, I'm just curious: I notice that pretty much all of your recent blocks have been with Twinkle, not AIV Console. Is there anything that would make you rather use the latter? After all, it is my program :D. _David^WS _(contribs) 23:57, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

No, your tool is nice, it's just that many times when I block people, they have not yet been reported to AIV. I rarely just patrol AIV for the heck of it. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 00:28, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Oh, and you can't block people with Twinkle. I use the MediaWiki feature to block, I just use Twinkle to notify them afterwards. Twinkle looks at Special:ListUsers when the warn function is called, and if it detects that the person running it is a sysop, it gives them an extra menu for various block notices. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 00:31, 20 November 2008 (UTC)