User talk:Moonriddengirl

edit count | edit summary usage Welcome. To leave a message for me, please press the "new section" tab at the top of the page. Remember to sign your message with ~~~~. I attempt to keep conversations in one location, as I find it easier to follow them that way when they are archived. If I have left a message at your talk page that seems to invite reply, I am watching it, unless I've requested follow-up here. If you leave your reply for me here, I may respond at your talk page if it seems better for context. If you open a new conversation here, I will respond to you here. Please watchlist this page or check back for my reply. If I think it would be helpful to you, I will leave a note at your talk page letting you know that an answer is available. If you have questions about a page I have deleted or a template message I have left on your user page, let me know civilly, and I will respond to you in the same way. I will not respond to a personal attack, except perhaps with a warning. Personal attacks are against Wikipedia policy, and those who issue them may be blocked. You may read more about my personal policies with regards to deletion and copyright. Admins, if you see that I've made a mistake, please fix it. I will not consider it wheel-warring if you reverse my admin actions as long as you leave me a civil note telling me what you've done and why and as long as you're open to discussion with me should I disagree. Notability concerns RolandR is making aolt of trouble for me he is trying to get rid of my articals byclaiming they are bad or not noteworthy enough. but there are many articals that aren't noteworthy and they exist just press the random artical botton Psycowitz (talk) 16:32, 8 December 2008 (UTC) Hi. Since you've asked somebody else about this as well, I'll reply at your talk page. Your reply should be there soon. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 19:05, 8 December 2008 (UTC) i am talking about the kol ami of frederick that is not a copyright infringment and yet he wants to delete it because it is not noteworthy enough but there are weird articals like Sankō, Ōita, Laskowo, Mogilno County those deserve deletion for their unnoteworthyness as mine —Preceding unsigned comment added by Psycowitz (talk • contribs) 00:19, 9 December 2008 (UTC) redid the sig Thanks for your heads-up note about my missing sig. I went ahead and corrected my typo. (Of course, I'll always blame it on this lousy keyboard rather than these spastic fingers.) Cheers — CactusWriter | needles 13:09, 9 December 2008 (UTC) List of Forgotten Realms characters Hello. I'm trying to build List of Forgotten Realms characters as a proper character list. Could you please restore the edit history of Aldanon for me, and redirect it to the list so that we can merge the content in? Thanks! :) BOZ (talk) 04:52, 10 December 2008 (UTC) Hi. While I'm obviously fine with restoring PRODded articles, I'm a little less comfortable restoring articles that have passed through AfD with consensus to delete. If notability were the only concern here, I'd be less reluctant, but the article was 8 paragraphs of original research. It's obviously too much to merge into a list article. If it would serve your purposes, I would be comfortable userfying the content so that you can refer to it in preparing a much abbreviated summary in your own language, if that would serve. I'm not sure it would be appropriate under the circumstances to put it back into article space, even under a redirect. Would userfication help? --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:01, 10 December 2008 (UTC) I guess that would be allright. I'd like to merge something in there if possible, but a straight up merge that large is probably not appropriate. BOZ (talk) 16:51, 11 December 2008 (UTC) No, although a much abbreviated summary would work. I'll userfy. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:51, 11 December 2008 (UTC) Thanks. :) BOZ (talk) 16:53, 11 December 2008 (UTC) December 2008 Please will you stop puting them tags up and delteing tags me and Salavat done this artical. A Candela (talk) 23:08, 10 December 2008 (UTC) Replied at user's talk page. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 23:12, 10 December 2008 (UTC) San Roque Cathedral Ministry of Altar Servers I'm Mark Quero and I am the publisher of the article about the organization. Its okay for me to edit and distribute with regards to the information about the institution. Thank You — Preceding unsigned comment added by Journ89 (talk • contribs) 11 December 2008 (UTC) Replied at user's talk page. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 11:42, 11 December 2008 (UTC) San Roque Cathedral Ministry of Altar Servers I hereby assert that I, Mark Quero, am the creator and/or sole owner of the exclusive copyright of WORK [=http://moas-srcp.catholicweb.com/index.cfm/NewsItem?ID=220934&From=home]. I agree to publish that work under the free license LICENSE http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Srcmoas-logo.jpg. I acknowledge that I grant anyone the right to use the work in a commercial product and to modify it according to their needs, provided that they abide by the terms of the license and any other applicable laws. I am aware that I always retain copyright of my work, and retain the right to be attributed in accordance with the license chosen. Modifications others make to the work will not be attributed to me. I acknowledge that I cannot withdraw this agreement, and that the content may or may not be kept permanently on a Wikimedia project. December 11, 2008, SAN ROQUE CATHEDRAL MINISTRY OF ALTAR SERVERS — Preceding unsigned comment added by Journ89 (talk • contribs) 11 December 2008 (UTC) Replied at user's talk page. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:42, 11 December 2008 (UTC) hey hi —Preceding unsigned comment added by Journ89 (talk • contribs) 14:51, 11 December 2008 (UTC) Note As an FYI, many concerns have been expressed over Guido's inability to either grasp policy, or accept that he must abide by others' interpretations. That is one of my central concerns here. This may save you some time during discussions with Guido. WLU (t) (c) (rules - simple rules) 18:26, 11 December 2008 (UTC) Thank you very much. I will cease banging my head against said wall. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 18:27, 11 December 2008 (UTC) I'm going to go pretend to have a life now. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 18:35, 11 December 2008 (UTC) I can recommend some excellent head-banging ointments for you, I've lots of experience in that area. As you can see on my user page (fourth user box), should you have any blisters or scabs from your own personal horse-beating stick, I should be able to help you there as well. My overall opinion is that you're pretty much wasting your time if you are under the impression that you can change his opinion through arguments or pointing to policies. WLU (t) (c) (rules - simple rules) 20:45, 11 December 2008 (UTC) Evidently a trait we share. :D No, now that I see a history with this issue and I know this is not a language barrier or something, then there seems to be little point in trying to persuade him. Any further comments would be to benefit the unseen audience. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:58, 11 December 2008 (UTC) We shall discuss further when the Blind Ferret Mates with the Ox-Turning Plough, and the Forbidden Doors of Mystery Open to the Twice-Eaten Fool. Avaunt! The Speckled Butterfly Drinks the Dew of Hidden Mountains. WLU (t) (c) (rules - simple rules) 21:15, 11 December 2008 (UTC) Mind boggling! Again, thank you much for the advisory. Otherwise, at this point, I'd probably be harassing our lawyer to ask him to help explain matters. Instead, I'll try for something productive, like challenging the Black Knight to a duel. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 21:48, 11 December 2008 (UTC) Oh, this is merely a scratch, try keeping it up for a month. I'm trying to avoid the appearance or reality of WP:CANVAS, so I shan't be warning anyone else. But if you want to, I leave it to your judgement. WLU (t) (c) (rules - simple rules) 22:38, 11 December 2008 (UTC) [1]. Limited, neutral, nonpartisan, open. Check. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 22:49, 11 December 2008 (UTC) I summon the dark demons of drama to (checks page name) Help:Talk! *thunder* /lightning/ €drama€! I predict this will end badly WLU (t) (c) (rules - simple rules) 22:55, 11 December 2008 (UTC) Or, perhaps, never end at all. :) I am evidently incorrigible. (Hmm. I could simply stop watchlisting?) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 21:21, 12 December 2008 (UTC) Been there, created the user box. I heartily believe that it's a complete waste of time to try to convince him the error of his ways, but the more people that try the more defensible it is to the community that he's a problem. WLU (talk) Wikipedia's rules:simple/complex 02:28, 13 December 2008 (UTC) Thanks Thank you for the information about the Wikipedia standards. I will go back and put them into my own words sometime later. Please do leave a note on my page if there is anything else to comment about. Thanks, Tokyocolumbia (talk) 21:24, 11 December 2008 (UTC) San Roque Cathedral Ministry of Altar Servers okay, i'll e-amil using my yahoo account. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Journ89 (talk • contribs) 12 December 2008 (UTC) San Roque Cathedral Ministry of Altar Servers i have email-ed the permission using the google account (gmail) since Catholicweb is powered by google. Actually I have already mailed it yesterday... If you haven't read it, my message says.... Moonriddengirl, I have asked the administrator if he could post the permission in the webpage http://www.moas-srcp.catholicweb.com/. And so he posted. you can scroll down at the home page, you can find there the permission on the left side boxes. Also, a permission about the copyright can also be found on the footer because it tells that ... " ... Copyright (C) 2008 San Roque Cathedral Ministry of Altar Servers Diocese of Caloocan, Philippines Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies of this license document, rephrasing is allowed but must be based on the facts that the article contains and is intended to deliver. .." Please bring back the main article for it is already been permitted. I'm planning to add more facts about their organization and so the others. I'll be kept in touch with the administrator of SRC-MOAS On-line for the security of the facts about them. I'm looking forward for your response..." And I am really looking for a favorable response.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Journ89 (talk • contribs) 14 December 2008 (UTC) I don't think that's enough; sorry. Anyone can get a gmail email address, so using a gmail address doesn't prove that you're the copyright owner. The license "Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies..." is not enough for Wikipedia; on Wikipedia, we need to be able to edit and modify the information without restriction. Only material with licenses compatible with GFDL can be accepted. Thank you for all your efforts. I hope you can find a way to get the required permission communicated. ☺Coppertwig(talk) 01:39, 14 December 2008 (UTC) San Roque Cathedral Ministry of Altar Servers moonriddengirl, I have already mailed wikimedia with regards the permissions and I think everything is settled now, so can you please bring back the article about the organization to normal now for I, and so on the others, are planning to add more facts about the organization. Thank You.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.69.36.247 (talk • contribs) 14 December 2008 (UTC) Although this may be superseded by the below, if you are able to have the release modified to fit our needs, I will note that the material is not restored under this method until your letter is received and processed by the Communications Committee of the Wikimedia Foundation. At that time, if the release is legally sufficient, a "ticket number" will be logged at the article's talk page and the contents restored. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:27, 14 December 2008 (UTC) San Roque Cathedral Ministry of Altar Servers coopertwig, the webpage owner has already posted in their website that its okay for them to have an an article from them. Please look at their webpage. I'm looking forward for a favorable response — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.69.36.247 (talk • contribs) 14 December 2008 (UTC) This is moving in the right direction, but I'm afraid that the release at the website is not quite sufficient for Wikipedia. Your license must be compatible with GFDL. You retain the right to be credited for your contribution, but not to limit modifications. Quoting from Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials: “ Please be aware that the content you donate is subject to continuous editing by the Wikipedia community. It may be added to, subtracted from, rearranged, illustrated, split into multiple articles, translated into other languages, and otherwise changed beyond your expectations. Your contribution will always be part of the page history, so you retain credit for your work -- our license requires us to provide that credit, and to ensure that you are not held liable in any sense for the changes others make to your work. Do remember that one of the benefits of this freedom to edit is that you are freely able to incorporate the improvements that others make into your own website or source work, so long as it remains under the GFDL. If it is important for some reason that your work remain intact, please read the guidelines for our sister project, Wikisource. ” (Note also that at the bottom of the edit page on Wikipedia it says, "If you don't want your material to be edited mercilessly or redistributed for profit by others, do not submit it.") If you wish to permit Wikipedia to utilize language from the website, you will need to modify the license your website displays accordingly. Our recommended language is "The contents of this website are available for modification and reuse under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.3 and later." --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:14, 14 December 2008 (UTC) Journ89, I looked at the website and it says, "Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies of this license document, rephrasing is allowed but must be based on the facts that the article contains and is intended to deliver." As I explained and Moonriddengirl explained, this is not sufficient for material to be used by Wikipedia. That is, the website is allowing material to be put on Wikipedia, but Wikipedia does not allow material with that kind of license to be kept; it must be deleted, by Wikipedia policy. The license must not only allow the material to be put on Wikipedia, but it must also allow the material to be used in all the ways that Wikipedia material is usually used: that is, it must be allowed to be edited, copied again, etc., all the things that the GFDL license usually allows. That license does not allow the unrestricted editing that Wikipedia needs; it explicitly puts a restriction on editing. It would be far too complicated to try to have one Wikipedia page comply with a special restriction like that; there's no way we could make every Wikipedian editor pay attention to a special restriction that applies only to that page. We couldn't stop people from coming along and editing it in ways that might violate the license. So we just have to delete it. One other problem I see with the license is that it says "this license document"; it's not clear what that is referring to. It sounds to me as if it's talking about the license itself, not the website contents. Maybe it was meant to say "this licensed document". Moonriddengirl has given a suggested wording that you can put at the bottom of the website page that would be acceptable. Any other wording may or may not be acceptable and may take some time and effort to figure out whether it's acceptable or not. I'm sorry for the complications. Again, thank you for your efforts in contributing material to Wikipedia. By the way, if you want to post a comment without creating a new section every time, you can click on "edit" at the right of the title of the section of the page, and then add your comment at the bottom of the other comments. ☺Coppertwig(talk) 15:12, 14 December 2008 (UTC) San Roque Cathedral Ministry of Altar Servers so what am i to do now? what will the web administrator do? I'm kinda tired of such things you want me to do where in fact it is already been settled. Please help me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.69.36.247 14 December 2008 (talk • contribs) If you have sent a letter, we wait several days for that to process. If it is not sufficient, the article will be deleted, unless the website is altered as I explained above. (If the release on the website is changed, let me know.) Otherwise, you do have the option of writing an article completely in your own words, as the notice on your page indicates. You cannot currently alter the article, but you can write in that temporary space. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 15:16, 14 December 2008 (UTC) Actually, it seems you have written a temporary version, although you did not note that you had done so at the article's talk page. Let me evaluate it. If it doesn't contain text from the external site, then we may be able to utilize it. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 15:18, 14 December 2008 (UTC) San Roque Cathedral Ministry of Altar Servers maybe i'll just have the administrator have the language you recommend That would have been the easiest route. :) However, the temporary version only contains one sentence from the source. I am revising it now and will replace the prior version of the article with the new version in just a minute. If the administrator of the website does allow reuse as our license requires, then the original sentence can be replaced. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 15:26, 14 December 2008 (UTC) San Roque Cathedral Ministry of Altar Servers okay, thank you moonriddengirl. Im sorry for this stuffs. I'm just a novice when it comes to this. Please have me time to learn for I'm not used in doing things like this. And well, I found it kinda complicated in a way :)) I understand. There's a lot to learn. :) Thank you for addressing the copyright concerns. If the administrator of the external site decides to license it according to GFDL, your original first sentence can be restored. Although it is complicated, you might want to read over some of the links on the "welcome" at the top of your registered user name, since it might help you more quickly learn your way around. And we do have a help desk, Wikipedia:help desk, where you can ask questions about contributing. When you post there or on talk page, please "sign" your posts by typing four tildes (~~~~). That way others will know who they're talking to. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 15:34, 14 December 2008 (UTC) San Roque Cathedral Ministry of Altar Servers oh, okay. Thanks for the replies. I found you more gentle than coopertwig :)