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Anglican's relationship to Chalcedon

When becoming ordained in the Anglican Communion, the ordinate must take a vow subscribing to the first 7 ecumenical councils, which would include the Chalcedonian Council of 451. It is, therefore, also accepted by the Anglican Communion.

My impression, via the Thirty Nine Articles, was that generally only the first four (1st Nicaea to Chalcedon) were recognized as Ecumenical Councils. Could you cite your source on the claim that ordinates vow subscribing to the Seven Ecumenical Councils? Deusveritasest (talk) 00:10, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nestorianism

Nestorianism did not end at Chalcedon, but continued for many centuries in Mongolia, Tibet and China. The section on Nestorianism is therefore not WP:NPOV. m.e. 07:07, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the article references Nestorianism within the Eastern Orthidox Church's official stated beliefs, rather than the beliefs of the world as a whole, or members within the church. I came upon this page by chance, so I am not versed on the history of the Eastern Orthidox Church, but by the wording and what I know of general Christian history this would seem to be the case. The Catholic Church also had periods similar to what you describe, where the church's official stated beliefs differed from segments of it's membership, ultimatly leading to the Protestant Revolution--Scorpion451 19:56, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The article is clearly eurocentric on this matter. Too many descriptions of church history forget that there were plenty of Christians living outside of the Roman Empire. The ecumenical councils were only authoratative within the Empire. Antiochian christology continued to develop within the Church of the East, and Nestorius was honoured. — Gareth Hughes 01:06, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

the Goeorgian Orthodox Church has never been part of the Chalcedonian Oriental Orthodox communion

You're saying that the Georgian Church has never been part of the Chalcedonian Orthodox Communion? Or that it has never been a part of the (Non-Chalcedonian) Oriental Orthodox Communion? Deusveritasest (talk) 00:12, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

2 Citations Needed

One is needed to show that the Church of Georgia was at one time part of the Oriental Orthodox Church. Next, a citation is needed to show that "a part of the Armenian Church was a part of the Eastern Orthodox Church". Deusveritasest (talk) 00:08, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's been a little over two weeks since I noted that a citation was needed, and as such will remove the statements about the Georgian and Armenian churches. Deusveritasest (talk) 05:43, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

On Saint Cyril's Christology

A citation is needed to prove that Saint Cyril, in a dogmatic form, stated that it is incorrect to speak of two natures after the union. Deusveritasest (talk) 05:45, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is a bit hard to nail down to a single quote but perhaps a sufficient citation would be to anathema 3. "If anyone shall after the [hypostatic] union divide the hypostases in the one Christ..." There is an easily accessible translation of the Anathemas at NewAdvent [1]. Does anyone think another or more citations would be needed/helpful? Neotertullian (talk) 19:12, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That anathema only addresses my concern if nature is asserted as certainly meaning the same thing as hypostasis or if "two natures after the union" is proven to be inherently divisive to the Incarnate hypostasis. Deusveritasest (talk) 22:10, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fourth Ecumenical Council

Isn't the very first statement of the article "The Council of Chalcedon was the fourth ecumenical council." a violation of NPOV? I know that some Oriental Orthodox would identify the Second Council of Ephesus as the fourth Ecumenical Council, whereas most of them as well as all of the Assyrian Church of the East would claim that there never was a fourth Ecumenical Council. Deusveritasest (talk) 22:13, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Old Catholic Church

Why is the Old Catholic Church referenced in the second line of the article? This church did not emerge until the 1870s, according to the hyperlinked Wikipedia article. Should the reference be removed, or does it perhaps make reference to some other branch of Catholicism? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Doc Yak (talkcontribs) 14:21, 23 December 2008 (UTC) Oops. Never mind. On rereading, I understand the reference. Doc Yak (talk) 14:28, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]