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Earnan Gowan

Well spotted - how did you find it? I have also checked it out and found nothing. PRODded, and if anyone removes the PROD - this sort of hit-and-run hoaxer doesn't usually return to defend their creation, but recently some people seem to remove PRODs as a matter of principle - I will take it to AfD. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 22:42, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I was doing a search with "Swinburne" in it - it came up by chance and I spotted some bad grammar. Charles Matthews (talk) 09:14, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Commandments of the Church

I have nominated Commandments of the Church, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Commandments of the Church. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Chzz ► 08:00, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

School story

While doing some expansion work on Angela Brazil, I came across this article School story, which seems to have been intended to mostly focus on English boarding school type stories. I did a bit of copy editing to clean up the prose that was there, but it struck me that the article could be the root of either one general article on school stories in children's literature, or branch out into two articles 1) a specific article on English school stories, boarding school types being prominent 2) a wider article on school stories on and beyond English fiction of the boarding school leaning (eg school stories in the US and elsewhere to date). A brief bit of searching didn't really unearth anything more general about school stories in this field (though perhaps my dyslexia preventing me from seeing this).

Since you started the article I thought you might have some ideas about what direction it could take. I have a few sources to hand for work on Angela Brazil that might add to it as an English boarding school and school fiction type thing, which I might be able to add but it seemed worthwhile considering whether it should be a more general article. Did you have a specific intention when you kicked it off and do you have any ideas about where to take it? I can of course post on the children's literature talk page, but thought I would start here in respect of you as the originator before appealing to the wider community Mesmacat (talk) 16:18, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, "school story" is a genre, and like most genres, it has some very typical elements, and then there are examples that aren't so conventional or constrained. The "boarding school" type of story is particularly bound by convention, so I suppose the purpose of the article, in my mind, was to try to clarify what those conventions amount to. A "school story" could pretty much be any story with a school in it, but that approach doesn't leave much to say that is encyclopedic, I think. I've just googled for "conventions of the school story" and some people seem fairly convinced that there is such a topic. Charles Matthews (talk) 16:26, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, looked into this further and absolutely concur now. I am reworking the article on this assumption. Thanks for taking the time to help clarify this Mesmacat (talk) 05:22, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Help!

I think Praetutii is in state of mess from old-fashioned stuff... can you give it a check? I also fear most of the info given are wrong. Ciao! --'''Attilios''' (talk) 00:05, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have done a little work there. Charles Matthews (talk) 09:46, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Muggletonians

I do very much share your stylistic concerns which are well-merited. The problem I'm experiencing, and upon which you may be able to offer advice, is that Muggletonianism is a subject for which it is near-impossible to marshall the sources. I find lots of little remarks by the way in all sorts of texts and monographs. So the pages at present are pretty much the notes from which, I hope, something looking like encyclopedia articles may eventually emerge. The alternative of doing everything off-page and then, one fine day, moving a fully-finished article into place is a bit risky given that I am not the youngest of Wikipedia users! Also, and this is a key factor, my chosen way may well prompt others to have a go - if only because they find the present state of affairs intolerable! After all, 50% method; 50% madness is about the correct Muggletonian ratio! I do admire the huge range of topics to which you've contributed. Long may it be thus.Coxparra (talk) 19:41, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I do cheat somewhat, by adapting old encyclopedia articles. On constructing articles from sources: this sounds fairly typical for me, also, at least in the 17C domain where there is scholarly work out there, but the issue is integrating it into an article. I suppose I have something of a system for this by now: like

worry first about getting a basic 'carcase' of an article together - I now draft that offline;
start the article here at the point where it's going to clarify things to see it properly footnoted;
I wouldn't fret too much at this stage about getting the prose right, since logical flow is the primary concern;
move things on to the point where sentences "stand for paragraphs", i.e. the article is in some sort of note form;
expand things from there by picking up books and googling, working on the weak areas first;
finally move onto a stage of general amplification and smoothing.

It is surprising how much there can be to do in the way of re-ordering and changing of the section structure. Also, I tend to use sources in the opposite order to the obvious one: end up with those giving surveys, because these help to check the point of view and completeness. In short, don't worry too much about the transitional stages and how they look, as long as you're clear you are making progress in pulling it all together. Charles Matthews (talk) 20:35, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I do see what you mean. With all best wishes,Coxparra (talk) 20:39, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Things are looking up! Thomas Coleman is from earlier today, and is a reasonable and not too lengthy example, anyway. Charles Matthews (talk) 21:06, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

prod state of affairs

Proposed deletion of State of affairs

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Original research. The term "state-of-affairs" is used in Analytic philosophy and linguistics, where it is well-established (see external link on page). The content of the page as it is now is original research. I propose deletion of the page to make room for coverage of "state-of-affairs" as used in philosophy and linguistics.

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Why don't you just edit the article into something more suitable? The comments on the PROD notice don't suggest that this is an unsuitable topic - quite the opposite. Charles Matthews (talk) 19:34, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

dnb query

hi Charles, I've left you a query. Dsp13 (talk) 12:38, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Replied there. Charles Matthews (talk) 14:34, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Accents

Ciao! Just a note, as I noticed you have Bishopric of Forlì in your link pages. In Italian, and it should be the same also in English, putting the final accent changes at all the meaning. For example, Forli would be something such as "Foh-r-ley", while Forlì is "Foh-r-lee". Ciao and good work. --'''Attilios''' (talk) 12:57, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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