Talk:Football at the Summer Olympics

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No reference to 1906 Summer Olympics which were later renamed 1906 Intercalated Games

Should this not be included, even though IOC retrospectively changed its status? The results were as follows:

Great Britain, Germany, Austria, Netherlands and France withdrew before the competition

- Semi-Finals:

(Match 1) Denmark 5-0 Smyrna (Ottoman Empire)

(Match 2) Athens (Kingdom of Greece) 6-0 Thessalonika (Ottoman Empire)

- Final:

Denmark 9-0 Athens (Kingdom of Greece), match abandoned at half-time due to Athens withdrawl, awarded to Denmark 9-0

- Match for Silver:

Athens refused to play Smyrna (best Semi-Final loser), therefore both Semi-Finals losers held silver-bronze play-off: Smyrna (Ottoman Empire) 3-0 Thessalonika (Ottoman Empire)

MEDAL TABLE

Gold - Denmark

Silver - Ottoman Empire

Bronze - Ottoman Empire

Amateurism in British football

I've altered the reference to amateur status being abolished by the British associations in 1974 to the (English) FA only, as it certainly continues to exist in Scotland to this day, along with a bewildering array of other registration types: Junior, juvenile etc. I don't what the situation is or was relating to Wales or Northern Ireland, although I'm presuming they wouldn't have changed at the same time as England, if at all. So if anyone can clarify further, that would be just dandy. -- Jellyman 11:40, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Inclusion of Olympic medals in national football team articles

There is debate on the pages of some nft articles as to whether Olympic medals since WWII ought to be included. I have argued that (and I acknowledge that this would not be the case for teams from continents other than Europe and S America in 1984/1988) since Berlin 1936 Olympic competition has not been open to full national sides, and those pages are intended to deal specifically with full national sides. Any opinions here? Kevin McE 22:41, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting debate. If we look at other sports, such as Basketball and Ice Hockey, medals from before full national teams were allowed to play are included, so it might make sense to do the same for Football. At least, the medals might be mention on the page referring to the country's junior team, or on the page of the country's U-23 team (if such a page exist).Fox334 (talk) 22:47, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

One player missing!

I suppose that NIcolas Burdisso (ARG/FC Internazionale Milano) also part of the Gold-medalist Argentina football squad in Athens 2004, along with former Inter player Christian "Kily" Gonzalez.

Please review, and tell me if I'm wrong.

Thanks a lot. Christian Liberty 21:47, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Strange Deletion

Hey, Where is all the rest of this page???????????????: results, goalscorers, etc... Stanza13 (talk) 12:53, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

British non-inclusion section

This section gets rather judgmental and opinion-pushing in several areas. For example:

However, as the national governing bodies for football in their respective nations, they are merely protecting the dignity and integrity of their status and the wishes of their people. — This unsoursed sentence presents as fact an opinion on the motivation of three National Associations.
Unfortunately the London media have not picked up on this feeling yet in the periphery. — it is not Wikipedia's purpose to determine which ideas' media coverage (or lack thereof) are fortunate or unfortunate. If some significant, reliable source makes this claim, reporting it might be worthy of inclusion, but I doubt it.
Perhaps England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales should compete individually in all events at the Olympic games. — This sentence is completely unencyclopedic. It is not Wikipedia's purpose to put forward ideas of what the IOC and the various NOCs should do. See above.
The concern remains that a UK-GB-NI team would be too politically volatile given the greater demand for self-determination coming from the sovereign will of the people of Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales. — Who has this concern?

All in all, in my opinion, this section is dragging down the quality of the article. Gentgeen (talk) 09:58, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Seconded, I was going to make a similar point. Surely there's no need for yet more England-bashing here? Hrcolyer (talk) 14:56, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Before the Opening Ceremonies

This article doesn't explain why Football/Soccer begins before the opening ceremonies. Unforrunately, I know next to nil about how it works. Can anyone help? Brittany Ka (talk) 23:57, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The games start before the OC due to time constrains.Fox334 (talk) 22:49, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article name

Andrwsc's insistence that we use the IOC name ("football") for this sport is not supported by the norm for Association football articles (i.e. "Association football") or English Wikipedia naming policy ("use common names").

For instance it is never known as "football" in the North American media, and it was not known locally as "football" when the Games were held in Sydney, Atlanta, Los Angeles, Montreal, Melbourne or St Louis, because locals may have made the mistake of thinking they were going to see the various sports they call "football", rather than the game they (i.e. a majority of native English speakers) call soccer. Grant | Talk 05:43, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In my opinion we should go whit the name that is the most often employed by the sport's governing body, which is why we use Football instead of Soccer. Another example is that in Bobsleigh at the Winter Olympics we use the spelling "Bobsleigh" instead of "Bobsled" or "Bobsledge" since its what the FIBT and the IOC use.Fox334 (talk) 22:52, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Separated medal tables?

Why are the men's and women's medal tables separated? The vast majority of the "X Sport at the Olympics" articles have a single medal table, so why would Football be any different?Fox334 (talk) 22:55, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If nobody can come up whit a justification for the men's and women's medal tables being separated I will merge them, since it appears to be the standard in "X Sport at the Olympics" articles. Fox334 (talk) 12:09, 19 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]