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Other Meanings

Deleted the 'other meanings' section. This is covered by the Mute disambiguation page.

Karl Naylor 16:13, 7 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Brass mutes

We need pictures! Any offers?--Light current 02:09, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'll try to remember to take one this weekend. - mako 07:04, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Una corda

"On older pianos it was possible by use of the soft pedal to play only one, two or all three strings, making the distinction between una corda (one string) and due corde (two strings) meaningful, but this is no longer the case"

I sincerely doubt that concert quality instruments have abandoned the use of the Una Corda pedal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.39.163.114 (talkcontribs)

I think what is meant is that the pedal can no longer be used to play two strings (for the majority of the keyboard with string in threes), shifting only between one string and all three. I don't know if this is true or if it is available on modern pianos. Rigadoun (talk) 17:57, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merging

I second the motion to merge the two, but also recommend the section on this page be cleaned up a bit and separated into smaller sections making it easier to navigate —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.34.0.92 (talk) 23:45, 11 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Notation and Stopping the Horn

Perhaps a section can be added displaying the correct (or most used) notation for each instruments when using mutes. Also, should "stopping" the Horn be covered in this article?

Directions for muting

This section is beginning to look untidy, because we have discovered the a commonly used term for mute (in at least the world of the orchestra, etc.), that Italian word beginning with "s", and then realise we have to accommodate "with, without, not-mentioning-either", alongside each of: the abbreviation, the (grammatically correct) feminine noun, the (commonly used) masculine noun, then the singular and plural forms of masculine and feminine.

It needs someone to apply some clear economical thinking here and come up with something better.

The words to play with are:

"con" / "senza" / "___"

followed by

"sord." / "sordino" / "sordina" / "sordine" / "sordini"

My mute and I have played in orchestras and chamber music for many years, but shall say no more and throw this to someone else to try tidying. Good luck. P0mbal (talk) 23:09, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What about the instances in French and German music which frequently read mit/ohne Dämpfer (or gedämpft) or avec/sans sourdine(s)? —  $PЯINGεrαgђ  05:44 19 January, 2009 (UTC)
It's the Italian, important because it's the common language of (classical, etc.) music, which is untidy. The French/German comment seems relatively neat. Addition of gedämpft might be good. Should there be a new section on the language stuff, or just neaten? P0mbal (talk) 11:05, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Merger proposal

I suggest that Sordino be merged into this article. From what I understand it's talking about the same kind of object. --Eusebius (talk) 09:26, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Much of the material from the Sordino article that is not already covered can be merged into the Mute article. I suggest that a abbreviated form of the Sordino article should remain specifically talking about it as a musical term. The Mute article should primarily be focused upon the physical objects. Ngaskill (talk) 07:31, 8 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]