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Please remove the first name

Uhura's first name has never been made canon, and Roddenberry himself has said that she had no first name. I feel the name "Nyota" should be removed as this is confusing fanon with canon. Under the strict rules installed by Paramount, only material seen or heard on screen in canon. Nothing printed in even official reference books counts as canon. There is already a section in this entry about the first name controversy. 23skidoo 14:23, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)

If you mean the article is better located at Uhura than at Nyota Uhura, then I agree. — Matt 19:05, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)
If there are no objections within one week of this message, I'll fix the name. -- SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 05:38, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
A week passed, noone objected, so I changed it. SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 21:24, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
What about Star Trek VI? Star Trek VI canonized Hikaru Sulu and I thought it canonized Nyota as well (although it did mispell Uhura as Uhuru). Just asking. Anyone with the DVD of VI can check this. 72.192.237.134 20:50, 8 March 2006 (UTC)Ismail (forgot to sign before)[reply]
Talk about serendipity. I'm fighting this battle over at the Trek wiki as well. What people (for God knows what reason) insist on hearing as "Nyota" in Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home are the words "can you" in Kirk's line, "Can you let us hear the probe's transmissions?" to Uhura. Shatner mumbles the line badly, but a close listen will reveal that is what he said. No Nyota, sorry.
Again, I really think we need to put a lockdown on the section dealing with Uhura's first name. What Shatner says in TVH is mumbled, somewhat, but it is FAR FROM UNCLEAR. Just listen to the damn dialogue. He DOES NOT say "Nyota," for Christ's sake! The line in the script says "Can you," the closed-captioning says "Can you" and indeed, Shatner says "Can you." Can we get this latest nonsense edit reverted to what it was before? Sir Rhosis 05:08, 29 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree. While subtitles does in fact say "Can you" on 5.1 surround, you can clearly hear Kirk say "Nyota." Neovu79 (talk) 00:43, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

SPOILER ALERT: The issue has been resolved by the new film, in which it is revealed (rather humorously) that her name is Nyota.69.231.212.77 (talk) 23:24, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong pronunciation?

I think we should add a note how her name was intentionally misprounced. As I understand it, the correct Swahili pronunciation would be with a "U" sound. However, it was always pronounced on the show as beginning with an "Oo" sound. Will (Talk - contribs) 07:04, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the "oo" as in "boo" is (approximately) the correct pronounciation in Swahili, as opposed to "you". — Matt Crypto 12:33, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Impact

I added this section. Feel free to amend it.SmokeyTheCat 10:52, 2 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have a citation. I saw this on a TV programme looking back on the impact of the original Star Trek.SmokeyTheCat 12:03, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't remove this section 63.165.234.2 It is important to an understanding of the character. SmokeyTheCat 12:23, 23 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Part of what you added is undeniably true. Unfortunately, however, there's a difference between something being true and something being verifiable.
Please return this section once you find some proof. I think it's an important part of the Trek mythology.

Come on 63.165.234.2 AGF. Uhuru was very important historically and the article should reflect this. I am sure that these things are true as I saw them on a TV program about Star Trek. No, I don't have a source but they are uncontroversial things to say. Your removal of these references takes away all the historic importance of the character. Leave them please. Add a 'Citation needed' tag if you must but please don't remove the comments.SmokeyTheCat 09:18, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is important, I agree. But this is an encyclopedia and as such, opinions are irrelevant. Either provide proof or keep opinions out of it. Can you remember the exact source? If so, cite it and provide a link and all will be well. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.165.234.2 (talk) 12:57, 27 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]
It's not an opinion. I clearly remember it from a TV program called 'How Star Trek Changed the World' narrated by Shatner.

You're not even a registed Wiki user. What gives you authority? SmokeyTheCat 15:54, 27 March 2007 (UTC) And it takes two to make an edit war.SmokeyTheCat 15:59, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Being able to edit anonymously is one of the boons of Wikipedia, and not something to be held against a member. This user's edit history shows, at least in his/her Star Trek entries, some good edits removing non-npov and other uncited material. As for the content at hand: I have restored most of it (everything save the stuff about the astronaut) and cited the 25th anniversary video, in which both Nichols and Goldberg talk about the Uhura role. Also moved it closer to the top -- Wikipedia's entries about fiction need to provide material on the entry's notability and real-world impact; burying that information for Uhura after a lot of plot summary isn't the best organization. --EEMeltonIV 18:32, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well two cheers EEMelton but I think more could said on this subject. Compare with the X-men character Storm's entry in Wiki. There is a page or so on her impact but she was later, seen by far less people and wasn't even a real woman. Still I will leave it as it stands for now. Hopefully someone else will add more. SmokeyTheCat 14:47, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I've put back in the bit about the astronaut - amended slightly - with a citation. It doesn't mention that that the astronaut uses Uhuru's catchphrase "Hailing on all frequencies Captain" when calling Mission Control which is a shame.SmokeyTheCat 14:10, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

colour picture

The infobox picture is monochrome. As Star Trek was never made in black-and-white, the picture should probably be in colour. I'm sure a suitable one must exist. Digifiend (talk) 14:06, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]


admiral

In somwe novles she appears (in later carreer) as an admiral.84.134.79.73 (talk) 20:02, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This would be good to include in the character biography, but I'd prefer having specific books listed with page numbers, or an alternative source about the character perhaps. Natural Cut (talk) 03:45, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Article potential

I can see this article as a good article with proper sourcing and writing. It's almost there as-is, in fact. I might work on it a bit more... Didn't the lady who played Tasha Yar once mention she didn't want to be an "Uhura-like" character? I remember reading that somewhere. Natural Cut (talk) 03:43, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Making "Nyota" official

While "Nyota" has been expressed in fiction as her first name for years, the new Trek film firmly establishes it as her name. The movie, while changing characters' "destinies," makes no changes to the names of any of the re-cast characters. Now that we've got it on film, can we go ahead and make it official now? Aatrek (talk) 04:26, 10 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

All the other Trek characters (Hikaru Sulu, Pavel Chekov, etc.) are listed as the full-name format. Aatrek (talk) 05:35, 10 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Lieutenant Uhura would be ok. 199.125.109.99 (talk) 05:58, 10 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. It's canon now, so why not include her full name in the article's name? Also, Sulu wasn't given a first name until TUC, and his article is at Hikaru Sulu. What's wrong with doing the same thing for Uhura? 75.16.189.30 (talk) 22:17, 10 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose It's NOT canon. The new film is set in an alternate reality, not the established one and thus not the same Uhura. Think about all the other realities in the Star Trek franchise, specifically the episode of TNG where Worf is jumping back and forth between dozens of different realities. I will also cite WP:COMMONNAME as the character is been known only as Uhura for over 40 years. TJ Spyke 22:21, 10 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per TJ Spyke. The new film is not set in Roddenberry's Trek universe, and therefore developments from that film should not impact on established events from previous Star Trek series and films. – PeeJay 00:10, 11 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. This is not an in-show staff list. Character is commonly known simply as Uhura, and there seems to be no name conflict needing disambiguation. As for Lieutenant, that is not the character's name—Spock, commonly known as "Spock", is typically called "Mr. Spock" in the show. / edg ☺ ☭ 11:22, 11 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support All the new film did was confirm the name that had been used among fans for decades, but putting it in the film makes it canonical. The end credits (which bill her only as "Uhura") similarly confirm the names of Amanda Grayson and Winona Kirk.Rockhopper10r (talk) 20:07, 11 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • The majority of the movie is not canon (it's set in an alternate reality, meaning they are not the same characters that exist in the canonical universe. Even if this counted, I am not sure I would support moving the article. Being non-canon seals it though. The Animated Series mentioned Amanda Grayson's name but that doesn't matter. TJ Spyke 02:26, 12 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Even the millions of non fans who have made this film a success will only know her last name should they come here to research the character. Just too well established as "Uhura" ever to change. Sir Rhosis (talk) 20:23, 11 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong oppose.
I was expecting to be the only one to oppose on the grounds that the new movie is entirely different. I'm glad to see a few friendly oppositions. --< Nicht Nein! (talk) 21:17, 11 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Galaxy Quest"?

The article claims that the character of Tawny Madison/Gwen De Marco is a parody of Uhura, but it is more reminiscent of yeoman Janice Rand (blonde bimbo, has some kind of sexual tension with the Captain). At best, the character can be seen as a mix of Rand and Uhura (although the uselessness of her job on the ship brings to mind fan complaints about Deanna Troi in The Next Generation). Nightandday (talk) 19:30, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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