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This User has reduced this paragraph. I myself think too much information has been cut, but what do others think? Master Thief Garrett 23:51, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

changed pronoun gender on SSBM info -Ben

I don't remember any canon sources saying zelda's last name is hyrule, though this is a common royal naming procedure. one of hyrule's king's last names was hyrule, however. the bit about ocarina of time's zelda functioning during a 'reconstruction' period is similarly implied, but not supported. i happen to believe there was nothing to reconstruct as time was rewound, but there are many theories. also, what's with the 'the real zelda' section? it should be added with the ocarina of time section

Agreed. I believe one manual (LOZ? Z2?) uses that surname, but it's not in any of the games' ingame texts, and we all know how crappily-translated the manuals were!

-I don't think she has a last name; it's not uncommon for royalty to known only by one name. If she did have a full name, it would probably be something like "Zelda of Hyrule" but that's just speculation. Gazuga

Origin of Zelda's name

I don't think what the article says is right about the origin of Zelda's name. I read it and said "that doesn't sound right" And I remember reading something about it in an old EGM issue. So I looked it up in issue #145 where there is a quote from Shigeru Miyamoto.

EGM: One interesting thing we learned at E3 was the origin of the name "Zelda". According to Miyamoto, the name came from none other than Zelda Fitzgerald, wife of famous American author F. Scott Fitzgerald.

We wanted a good name...a kind of eternal female name, a name that's going to last and have appeal, says Miyamoto. (She) was a rather famous woman who was kinda strong so we decided to with her name.

Thunderbrand June 28, 2005 04:54 (UTC)

edit: Heh, i checked the Zelda Fitzgerald article and it says right there about her name. Am I missing something? Thunderbrand June 28, 2005 04:57 (UTC)

I'd say you should put in the "canon" source of the name but mention the technical origin as an aside--much like "LEGO" has a meaning in Latin but was actually chosen as a contraction of a Danish phrase, the coincidence came later. So maybe mention the other afterwards, but clearly say that it's a coincidence. Master Thief GarrettTalk 2 July 2005 04:57 (UTC)
I kind of put it in. It's a bit confusing to me, so I'll let you clear it up some. Thanks for replying. Thunderbrand July 2, 2005 05:52 (UTC)

The offical explanation from the character's creator strikes me as more important than "Also worth mentioning". I'm changing it. WikidSmaht 01:45, August 1, 2005 (UTC)

Logically impossible statement

In the part about Super Smash Bros. Melee, there's a rather strange statement:

In the form of Zelda, she is somewhat slow but is rather graceful and swift.

So, which one is she? Slow or swift? Or did the writer mean to say "but as Sheik is rather graceful and swift", and this inconsistency arose when the description of Sheik was moved to a lower paragraph?

In any case, the statement is self-conflicting and therefore nonsensical right now. Unfortunately, I haven't played the game, so I can't fix this :(.

Where does it say that now? I saw that and changed "swift" to the not-perfect-but-slightly better "agile" 2 days ago, since I thought that better accounted for her dodging skill without contradicting "slow". WikidSmaht 15:34, August 3, 2005 (UTC)

Template

Deos anyone else think the use of the {{main}} template is horribly ugly, or is it just me? -- WikidSmaht 23:20, August 28, 2005 (UTC)

Agreed. The only thing that really drives me nuts is that it indents the thing in. However, I also wouldn't complain if those were a teensy bit smaller as well. The Missing Link 05:31, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
And it's totally italicized... Well, I'm kind of getting used to it now. -- WikidSmaht 14:04, September 3, 2005 (UTC)


Minor cameos

Upon examining the code, I saw that there is a 'Minor cameos' section that's been commented out. I wanted to add a cameo appearance of Zelda from the Final Fantasy Mystic Quest but now I am uncertain where to add this. Would it be better to add it in 'Appearances in other games' or should the 'Minor cameos' section be uncommented? For now, I'll do the latter and watch the discussion in case there are other opinions. Dkasak 05:47, 7 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

That looks right to me. The "Appearances in other games" section deals mostly with games in which Zelda's appearance was significant to the plot, or in which she was/is a playable character. "Minor cameos" is actually a sub-section of that, dealing with appearances or references which are just incidental, like the one you mentioned. I can't say whether it's a true cameo, though, as I haven't played the game. -- WikidSmaht 20:22, September 7, 2005 (UTC)

Formatting suggestion, Interesting tidbit

Instead of writing "Main article: (Zelda game here)" for every game under "Incarnations of Zelda," why don't the headings just link to the game itself? I think that would be much more prudent.

Also, I was thinking about working in the fact that Tetra's name doesn't mean three, but four. (It's a common misconception in Zelda fandom that her name is a reference to the triforce.) Does anyone else think that's worthy of inclusion? Guermantes 22:19, 11 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's a style thing. It would look kind of ugly, and it wouldn't be in line with standard format on Wikipedia. As for Tetra, I don't think that's necessary to mention. And maybe her name does refer indirectly to the Triforce. If you fill in the center and fold along the lines where it was, you can make a tetrahedron, a four-sided regular polyhedron in which each side is an equilateral triangle. -- WikidSmaht (talk) 05:44, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Smash Bros. category

Hi. Random question. I thought I'd make a category for Smash Bros. fighters, so I included Zelda. I was thinking it might be neat to include Sheik, too, since the game treats them like seperate characters, but I can't figure out how to make a link so that the category page says "Sheik," too. Right now it just has Zelda. Any ideas? Kidicarus222 08:06, 22 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I think if you put
[Category: Smash Bros. fighters|Zelda]
[Category: Smash Bros. fighters|Sheik]
that would do it. I'm about to make an edit anyway, so I'll try it. If that doesn't work, then I have no clue. -- WikidSmaht (talk) 19:40, 24 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Nope, guess not. Sorry guy. -- WikidSmaht (talk) 20:10, 24 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Appearance Familiarities

In Ocarina of Time and Twilight Princess, her designs are both familiar, but the one in Twilight Princess is a better design. --ZachKudrna18@yahoo.com