User talk:K. Lastochka

Szia!

GASP, yay! You're back!! How are you? And if you don't mind me asking, how was Italy? --Kuaichik (talk) 04:53, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Welcome back :) Sceptre ^(talk) 07:10, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, since you asked: Remember that sticky situation over at Romani people? Maybe you can help do something about that.

I would offer a better suggestion if I had one for sure, but I'm not sure we really have any other articles in common. I don't know the slightest thing about what improvements any Hungarian-related pages could use. --Kuaichik (talk) 22:43, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

I've been thinking of contacting some admins who are not busy. But it may have to be off-wiki. Anyhow, at least there are some productive discussions taking place (see e.g. Talk:Roma_people#Roma_religion :)). --Kuaichik (talk) 23:40, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

How about an admin from, like, India or the US? ;-) --Kuaichik (talk) 00:28, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

LOL, swear-words in Italian! I never even thought of that :-D Come to think of it, I did take a semester of Italian (after studying some on my own!), but I'm not sure whether I do know any Italian swear-words...

Anyway, for this purpose, advice/diplomacy/help sounds like a much more welcome offer.

Oh, by the way: what about Australia? Nothing wrong with Australia, surely? I mean, hey, I'm in Austin, Texas (or, as a friend of mine once described it, "the middle of nowhere," because it's in the middle of Texas, which is nowhere!). So who am I to complain? :-D --Kuaichik (talk) 00:55, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

By the way, good news. RFAR#Digwuren is being modified to clamp down a bit more on ethnic POV pushers. Sceptre ^(talk) 15:48, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Though, to be honest, the end of conflicts on Wikipedia regarding Central/Eastern Europe is a pipe-dream as long as the real-world conflict exists. People hold such strong beliefs that any sort of protection is impossible; even administrators push their POV unwillingly. Then again, the existence of conflict helps. Ethnic POV pushers are generally predictable, so it helps uninvolved editors (such as me) to see how people push POV in words and actions. Sceptre ^(talk) 20:12, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

KL, allow me to thank you for the beautiful words. Hope you're okay, and, really, how was Italy? Dahn (talk) 10:31, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Les Préludes

I just started revising your old article about Liszt's Les Préludes. (It was left behind at a nearly unbelievable state.) If you'd like to take part, it would be nice if you rewrote chapter "Form", doing it in similar kind as your descriptions of the movements of the Violin Sonata in D Minor by Brahms, which are fine. Chapter "Form" at present state is most resembling a caricature. (I'm sorry for having to say this.) For the purpose of gaining a better shape, all allusions to titles like "Dawn of Existence", "Love" etc. must be avoided, since nothing of all this can be found in the score. In other words, as first step you must give an analysis of Les Préludes as if it was a piece of absolute music. If you like to do so, you can at a later step try to show a presumed connection between music and program. (I took the former part "In popular culture" away since things of that kind are insulting for Liszt. He has nothing to do with Flash Gordon or Mickey Mouse.)85.22.24.56 (talk) 09:33, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Greetings again, sir! I will certainly take a look at the article--now that IMSLP is back online (miracle of miracles!!) I can download the score and attempt a better formal analysis. As for the connections between the music and the program, again, the article isn't the place for any original musicological research or interpretations of my own, but I'll look in the published literature for some critical/musicological commentary on the subject. K. Lásztocska^talk 17:33, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your taking part.85.22.16.55 (talk) 09:43, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh, sorry Lastochka, I should have looked here before I sent you that e-mail. Anyway, what I forgot to mention in it was that it all pertains to the Les Préludes article. But I see that you already noticed what I was going to tell you, so just pretend I didn't send it whilst I slink into the corner and feel stupid for a while. ;) —  $PЯINGεrαgђ  13:51 25 July, 2008 (UTC)

Sticky situation, cont'd

Uh-oh. Looks like trouble has started brewing again here. --Kuaichik (talk) 15:49, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Project TriviaWhack

Back in action! Though see my recent edits - there's a guy (full description here) who's been tagging for deletion lots of images from the 19th century (including many of musicians) - I've been trying to undo this sort of nonsense. Biruitorul ^Talk 00:29, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh no! You mean you're leaving again?! Ah, too bad. But bon voyage and мягкий посадки (I'm using Russian because that's about the closest thing I know to Czech :-P)! --Kuaichik (talk) 03:30, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Aw, darn, I knew it. I misspelled my Russian - that should be мягкой посадки! At least it isn't as bad as the time I butchered the spelling of Hidegen fújnak a szélek :-D --Kuaichik (talk) 03:34, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, then, št'asnou cestu! :) --Kuaichik (talk) 04:59, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Franz Liszt

Are there any plans afoot on reworking the Liszt bio? Jonyungk (talk) 18:14, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

56 again

![1] thanks István (talk) 16:57, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Trivia cleanup

Hi K. Lastochka, I'm trying to clean up our trivia, but it's an enormous task. Are you still interested? - Tbsdy lives (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) ^talk 04:42, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Great! Well, basically what I'm doing is going through articles with trivia and seeing what I can do. What I do is find all the material that is not sourced, and to give people a chance to provide a source I basically move it to the talk page asking for a source and point out that if the material is not trivial (i.e. unimportant) then it shouldn't actually be in a trivia section. Next, I find any material that isn't trivial and that is sourced and I try to merge this. Then I remove the rest, as it's too trivial. This calls for some common sense, of course :-) And some people don't like it, but I try to explain the reasoning to them. An example of this can be seen at Talk:Gene Cotton#Unsourced material, but if you look at my talk and mainspace contributions you can see how I approach it.

I figure if we all do 3-5 a day (I do a lot more!) then we can clear the backlog and then wait for trivia articles to come through and fix them as soon as they pop up in a category. - Tbsdy lives (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) ^talk 06:46, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

P.S. so we don't step on each other's toes, you might want to start at E :-) I'm doing D! Tbsdy lives (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) ^talk 06:47, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Béla Iványi-Grünwald

On 20 October, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Béla Iványi-Grünwald, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Keep up the good work! ~ User:Ameliorate! ^{(with the !) (talk)} 13:49, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, but the article was not my doing, I merely verified its nomination! The credit goes entirely to User:Biruitorul. K. Lásztocska^talk 00:06, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Slovakian Liszt

As it seems, we've won our first joint battle over there. So, thank you very much for taking part. A couple of days ago I happened to come across some interesting information about Miroslav Demko, by the way. I'll drop it on the Liszt talk page. Maybe, it will for the future prevent those kinds of annoying debates.85.22.5.160 (talk) 09:13, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Nothing like a common enemy! :D K. Lásztocska^talk 16:31, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

"If you're anything like me, at this time of year you'll have Leonard Cohen on repeat"

Hey K. I remember about twelve months ago, I talked to you about "Hallelujah", but other than that, my memory's a bit fuzzy (I know something about the lyric being scrawled on a wall). If you're not that busy, do you want to help out with writing the article? Sceptre ^(talk) 13:38, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Goodness, my memory has blanked. I've been, as you may have noticed, almost totally inactive here for months due to (a) school and (b) laziness. I just watched the entire fourth series of Doctor Who in the past three days though.....*contented sigh* K. Lásztocska^talk 02:29, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Ages ago. My memory is weird like that; can't remember what I had for lunch yesterday, but I can remember minutae of conversation from ages ago. I probably guessed that studying was the reason you've been inactive (as I said, "if you're not too busy"); I really should be revising myself. But that would ruin Christmas. It's a shame David's leaving; I really liked him. Oh, and have you seen the FA I made of the first part of the series finale? I haven't even finished it yet: I've got a book coming on Monday (would've got it Christmas Eve had Amazon not screwed around with my card); and I've got to get my hands on the DVD commentaries without spending £60. Ah well; I'll be on the couch watching the new episode in fifteen hours and writing the article in sixteen ;). Merry Christmas. Sceptre ^(talk) 02:42, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Careful there, remember I'm a whole series behind you....NO SPOILERS!!! But yes, David Tennant is amazing. And hot. And....I'm gonna go back to my scholarly work now. K. Lásztocska^talk 02:51, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

We're literally three minutes in front of you (i.e., we've already had the cold open as a charity thing). Have fun :) Sceptre ^(talk) 02:56, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Oh yes, and I doubt you're following football this year, but we're top of the Premier League (at Christmas!) :). Sceptre ^(talk) 02:57, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Eh, as much as I've been able to.....didn't see a match in ages but my dad did keep me updated on the standings. :D K. Lásztocska^talk 03:42, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

That's a nice thing for Christmas. Oh, and to make you jealous (but hopefully not ruin your Christmas): I met Russell T Davies at a book signing! He's a really nice bloke. I've got a picture of me with him, but won't post it for obvious reasons. Sceptre ^(talk) 03:46, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Best wishes

With best wishes for a peaceful new year I'd like to say "Merry Christmas!" to you.85.22.17.106 (talk) 09:41, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

And to you, good sir! K. Lásztocska^talk 02:27, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Talk pages

Someday, you may choose to go through an RfA. And if that happens, you may succeed. This will give you the ability to look at deleted revisions of pages.

In that case, you may opt to look at the deleted history of your own page, to see what I removed.

I strongly disrecommend that you do so. An imbecile chose to blank several pages, and to use objectionable edit summaries while doing so.

Edit summaries that refer to some most horrible things happening to, most specifically, you, K. Lastochka.

No, more horrible than that.

Even worse.

I think you can understand that I choose to not go further into detail. DS (talk) 22:53, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Sadly, it's an occupational hazard for me. (Yeah, it concerns me; Cliff got hit too) I've learnt to laugh it off; it's the only way to keep your head above water. Besides, I'm kinda happy they've stopped going on about my ex-girlfriend. Sceptre ^(talk) 23:12, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Uhhhhh....OK. Did I get a death threat or something? K. Lásztocska^talk 00:26, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

'or something', yes. I really really don't want to go into further detail. DS (talk) 03:13, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

OK, fine. Your dramatic responses are only making me curiouser and curiouser, but it's probably best to just forget it. K. Lásztocska^talk 03:27, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

You got hit again by some more vandalism. More of the same. Sceptre ^(talk) 19:40, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Jesus H. Christ.....I've not even been doing anything on here lately, why the f are they going after me....K. Lásztocska^talk 17:09, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

It's my fault. Honestly, it is. People tend to go on talk pages I talk page on and troll. Sceptre ^(talk) 18:51, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about the mess, K. I'm just going over this user with someone before getting him blocked, because this is ringing alarm bells on IRC. Sceptre ^(talk) 22:58, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Hence why I don't "translate" the second part of your username anymore. I don't want to give them ideas. It is fascinating, though, to see how people continue to troll me after nearly three years. And I have no life? Mind you, one must always be optimistic: at least I've stopped raping my ex-girlfriend. Sceptre ^(talk) 23:19, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

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English and French Wiktionaries

Hello,

This account name has been used for some heavy-duty vandalism on the English and French Wiktionaries. I assume (very strongly) that it wasn't you? It seemed only fair to tell you. See for yourself. Mglovesfun (talk) 21:47, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Oh my goodness, that wasn't me at all!!! I'll change my password just to be safe, though I have no clue how someone would have been able to hack my account.....bleagh....K. Lásztocska^talk 17:08, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Have you opted for m:SUL? If not, I strongly recommend that you do so now, to prevent such idiocies from reoccuring. DS (talk) 05:22, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Treaty of Trianon

Toroko has undid your {{cn}} at this article (diff). He also edit-war with me on this article, with clear POV that Kingdom of Croatia-Slavonia never really existed, because — by his narrow opinion — Kingdom of Hungary was a unitaristic kingdom in which no other subdivision existed.

Isn't it more glorious that the Kingdom of Hungary was in personal union with the Kingdom of Croatia under the Crown of St. Stephen.

Spain is a collection of kingdoms, in the early days those kingdoms were more or less autonomous.

I would very much like if you could spare some of your valuable time and explain that user the value of WP:TALK, WP:AGF as you did explain those policies to me and User:PANONIAN in the case about Serbian Voivodship and Tamiš Banat.

I am inclined to belive that Toroko would listen to you because of joint heritage.

Imbris (talk) 21:40, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

kingdom

Hi K. Lastochka. I readd "Croatia-Slavonia", because it was not a kingdom. Of course i don't want to offend you, i only say, there was no any kingdom within the Kingdom of Hungary. Toroko (talk) 06:57, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Akár hiszed, akár nem, a horvát történelemről szóló cikkek kilecven százaléka kamu. És nem volt királyság, ez csak egy hazugság. Ne tévesszen az meg, hogy van itt egy ilyen cikk, mert ez hazugság. Valójában nem volt az. Nem akarlak megbántani, de hogy lehetett volna királyság egy királyságon belül?[2] [3] [4] [5]. Egy állam volt, Magyarország (Magyar Királyság). Semmiféle királyság nem volt ezen belül, én megadtam a hiteles forrásokat, kérlek ne írd át mégegyszer. Köszönöüm. Toroko (talk) 18:21, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

I can tell you it in English too. In Croatia-Slavonia the official language was Croatian, was led by a ban (who was appointed by the King of Hungary, who appointed the ban according to the proposal of the Prime Minister of Hungary). The administration, jurisdiction and education was defined by the Sabor (the assembly of Croatia-Slavonia) in Croatia-Slavonia, and they could delegate 42 deputies to the Hungarian Parliament. It is not very important for me, i only wanted to correct a bad denomination. Otherwise, i don't want to correct anything about the article "Croatia-slavonia". Toroko (talk) 08:10, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

I know it was Habsburg, I was merely careless. Toroko (talk) 08:24, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

I meant "offend". I am sorry, my english is bad. Toroko (talk) 11:31, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

"Mert az, hogy Horvátország hóditott tartománya volt a magyar királynak nem szenved kétséget és csak is abban a korban lehetett ezt kérdésessé tenni, melyen a nemzetiségi vágyak elöltek minden történeti érzéket." " Arra gondolni, hogy a Horvátországhoz való viszony valami personalis unio-féle lett volna, merő képtelenség, s nemcsak a kor felfogásának mond ellent, hanem még inkább a hatalmi viszonyoknak. Többé felkelésről nem is volt szó: a horvát urak, kiknek külömben is alkalmok nyilt kitüntetni magokat a magyar királyok szolgálatában, nyugodtan megmaradtak az alávetettségben." [6] "Nada Klaic (a croatian historian) thinks, Pacta Conventa is false, but the text does illustrate how the elite wanted to present itself in a later peroid, be it the fourteenth or fifteenth century." When ethnicity did not matter in the Balkans, John Van Antwerp Fine, Jr., University of Michigan Press, ISBN 047211414X "Ladislas between the years 1089-1091 annexed Croatia" Illustrated Slovak history: a struggle for sovereignty in Central Europe, Anton Špiesz, Dušan Čaplovič, Ladislaus J. Bolchazy, Bolchazy-Carducci Publishers, 2004, ISBN 0865164266 "The earliest manuscript attestation of that document is of late fourteenth century. The pacta conventa is most likely a late medieval forgery, not a twelfth-century source. Nevertheless, its source of inspiration must have been the political and social developements which had been taken place over a 300-year period following the counqeusts of Ladislas I and Coloman." Florin Curta, Southeastern Europe in the Middle Ages, 500-1250, Cambridge University Press, 2006, ISBN 0521815398 "Croatia became part of Hungary in the late eleventh and early twelfth century." The central Middle Ages: Europe 950-1320, Daniel Power, Oxford University Press, 2006, ISBN 0199253129 Thank you so much for "warning" me to write accurately, but i do it. You and your friends may believe whatever you like about the history of croatia, please don't accuse me with anything else, because it is not me who "believes" in something. I provided you with a scholarly and professional manner, whatever they said you, there was no any kind of union, simply a conquest. If you don't know it please read about it. However, some nations can't bear the former conquest of our country, and speak about something which has never happened because of one worthless forgery. The idea about a personal union or any other union is an anti-hungarian lie, fake, nationalistic view. It is up to you, what do you write, i just also warn you like you did it.

And the britannica and columbia encyclopedias are showing contradictions because they ask for informations for every nation about their history instead of substantially explore it. Howeveer, if you see the articles about hungarian kings, you can see this: [7] [8][9][10] "At the invitation of his sister, the widowed queen of Croatia, he invaded and conquered that country in 1091." "Ladislas I, king of Hungary who greatly expanded the boundaries of the kingdom and consolidated it internally;... Ladislas extended Hungary’s frontier in Transylvania and occupied Croatia (1091) to protect the rights of his sister, the widow of Zvonimir, prince of Croatia. " "Thus practically the whole of Croatia was incorporated into Hungary and came to be governed for the king by a ban (viceroy)." Unfortunately there are some contradictions here as well, for example the columbia encyclopedia mention the absorption into Hugary in 1097, although it was in 1091, but here they don't mention any union, because there was no, it is only a nationalistic view, whether you knew this or not. If you are not interested in it, you naturally don't have to care about it, but don't charge me with anything about it, since i write the truth. Best Regards. Toroko (talk) 10:17, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Croatia in personal union with Hungary

Hi K. Lastochka. Can you help about this issue. Everything I write in Hungarian related articles that has Croat or Croatia involved is deleted by Toroko, with vandalism as a reason.

Here is some data from encyclopedia britannica:The lands where the Croats would settle and establish their state lay just within the borders of the western Roman Empire. In the 6th and 7th centuries ad, Slavs arrived in the western Balkans, settling on Byzantine territory along the Adriatic and in the hinterland and gradually merging with the indigenous Latinized population. Eventually, they accepted the Roman Catholic church, though preserving a Slavonic liturgy. In the 9th century an independent Croatian state developed with its centre in northern Dalmatia, later incorporating Croatia proper and Slavonia as well. This state grew into a powerful military force under King Tomislav (reigned c. 910–928). Croatia retained its independence under native kings until 1102, when the crown passed into the hands of the Hungarian dynasty. The precise terms of this relationship later became a matter of dispute; nonetheless, even under dynastic union with Hungary, institutions of separate Croatian statehood were maintained through the Sabor (an assembly of Croatian nobles) and the ban (viceroy). In addition, the Croatian nobles retained their lands and titles.

• http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/143561/Croatia/223953/History
• http://www.bartleby.com/65/cr/Croatia.html
• The time history of the world, 5th edition, ISBN:953-6510-62-6 pages 138,142,143, 145,147, 150-151, 186.Name Croatia is displayed on the maps.
• The World book Encyclopedia volume 4, 1994 ISBN:0-7166-0094-3 Pages 1148b-1148c " In 1102, Kalman, the king of Hungary, also became king of Croatia, thus creating a political union between Croatia and Hungary that lasted for more than 800 years. Despite this Union, the Croats always kept their own parliament , called the Sabor "
• Encyclopaedia Britannica , 15th edition , vol.3

"Croatia became a kingdom in the 10th century, and in the 1091 Ladislaus I (Laslo I) of Hungary assumed control; the ensuing union with Hungary lasted for 8th centuries. During the union with Hungary, Croatia retained its own assemble, the Sabor, and was legally an independent kingdom."

What I asking is that you wrote what you think is best, because I can't. If you don'h have time I will understand. Regards. --Kebeta (talk) 09:48, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Szia!

Esetleg tudnál adni egy e-mail címet, amin elérhetlek? Köszönöm! Üdv,B@xter ⁹ 10:05, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Featured Article Review (2009)

Please note, Wikipedia:Featured_article_review/Hungarian_Revolution_of_1956/archive1 Fifelfoo (talk) 14:56, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Already noted. K. Lásztocska^talk 15:08, 22 September 2009 (UTC)