Talk:Soupy Sales

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Fair use issue

The material from Sales' book constitutes "fair use". It is much less than one page of the entire book and does not constitute a substantial percentage of Wikipedia's total content.

Puppeteer

Does anyone remember the name of the puppeteer who "worked" the puppets who played Pookie, White Fang, Black Tooth, etc? He is certainly worthy of mention in the main article! Response - The puppeteer/actors'name was Frank Nastasi Clyde Adler was the original puppeteer in the early 1960's and in the late 1970's on the "new" Soupy Sales Show. With no disrespect to Frank Natasi I personnaly think that Clyde Adler did a better job as he was the original White Fang, Black Tooth and Pookie. He would often upstage Soupy and leave Soupy on the lying on the floor with laughter. Soupy was generous to the performers around him allowing them to get a laugh often at his expense.

The IHOP Piein

Why hasn't anyone mentioned the time Soupy made a public appearance at an IHOP in West L. A. in 1961 and was hit in the face with a frozen (!) pie by a misguided kid? I was present when that happened (No, I didn't throw it), and I saw it happen! (The quick-witted photographer, hired to take pictures of Soupy with kids, got a shot of him giving my 3-year-old cousin a drink of water while his mother smiles in the background, a picture we still have!) -Dougie monty (talk) 06:23, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note the following post! Assuming you own rights to the picture, and wouldn't mind, how about making it the current Soupy Sales Wiki-photo?

In any case, I agree the shot of the older Soupy, while touching, should be replaced with a shot of him at his peak. Jusdafax (talk) 00:38, 2 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Main picture

Is there a more suitable PD image of Mr. Sales around that would better serve this article? I'd rather see a picture of Soupy vibrant and in his prime than that of a half-dead Soupy at an autograph show. Thanks... Davemackey (talk) 17:45, 28 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pachalafaka

There is no mention of Soupy's rendition of Pachalafaka on the main article page (yet). Even tho' it was written and recorded by Irving Taylor (songwriter), Soupy made it much more famous.

pronunciation

i've never heard anyone pronounce his surname, correctly or otherwise. is it just pronounced like you'd expect? tomasz. 13:41, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Vintage Soupy Sales photo

Hi! I'm new at this. I have a 3.5 x 5 photo of Soupy Sales (in his long underwear) which was given to me by my mother. He is holding a record (LP) with Soupy Hines on it and is standing behind a microphone with WJW on it. There are also cans of Heinz soup on a table beside him. It has been inscibed with 'To Shirley All the best Soupy Hines'. Does anyone know how old this is? I was listening to my satellite radio and heard that he had passed away.

Sewing gal (talk) 13:52, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you wish to scan the photo and contribute it to Wikipedia for use of this article, feel free to do so. Otherwise, this talk page is solely for be used for discussions about improving this article. Steelbeard1 (talk) 13:55, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jewish

Why is the fact that he was Jewish so important that it has to be mentioned twice in the article. It had nothing to do with his career.Mwinog2777 (talk) 14:45, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alleged dirty joke

The story I heard was that Soupy was doing a bit with either White Fang or Black Tooth with some letter flash cards. Soupy would hold up an "F" and ask what letter was it, the response was "K". This went on a couple of times until an exasperated Soupy exclaimed "How come every time I see 'F', you see 'K'?" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.190.97.164 (talk) 16:18, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

False. See [1] According to Snopes: "Soupy's assessment of how these rumors came to be associated with his TV show agrees with ours: 'After many years, I think I finally figured out how these ridiculous stories got started. Kids would come home and they'd tell a dirty joke, you know, grade school humor, and the parents would say, "Where'd you hear that?" And they'd say "The Soupy Sales Show," because I happened to have the biggest show in town. And they'd call another person and say, "Gladys — did you hear the joke that Soupy Sales was telling on his show?" and the word of mouth goes on and on, until people start to believe you actually said things like that.' --Manway (talk) 16:56, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm aware of the article. No need to quote it on the discussion page. 71.190.97.164 (talk)

I was just watching his "I Dream of Jeannie" sketch over at YouTube in the middle of which he lists the prizes for a talent contest, which include a couple of items from Howard Johnson's. And a "hard Johnson lollipop." The pronunciation is quite distinct and there is muffled on-set response so I don't think I misheard or there was a sound glitch. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.234.41.17 (talk) 16:34, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sure you didn't hear Soupy saying "Howard" instead of "Hard"? The pronunciation would be very easy to slur through and give the wrong impression. See the Snopes link above. Soupy was not a vulgar man, at least when there was a TV camera present. --Manway (talk) 17:01, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Almost certainly, that would be the case. You can't apply current standards to TV of that era. Anything that even hinted of risque language would get you knocked off the air. Keep in mind Jack Paar was censored by the networks in the early 1960s for a "W.C." joke. Things were much more puritanical then. It started to change in the 1970s. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 17:05, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Death

So ehy did he die? I can't seem to find it in the article. Am I missing something?98.220.41.194 (talk) 16:25, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]