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Display name

Fine by me. "Andre" as a display name pre-dates Wikipedia and was an alias I used as someone underage online (I'm 20). "Andrevan" is even older though and is actually an AOL screen name from 1996. Now that I use my real name online, the remaining references to obsolete aliases are basically persisting via inertia and laziness, and every instance of my signature links directly to my userpage anyway. So it's a moot point to me, feel free to set my display name as whatever you want. Andre (talk) 03:45, 17 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't mean for it to be complicated; I noticed that's how your sig is, and accommodated that in the template. There was at least one other 'crat on that page (and maybe more editors on the unsuccessful candidacies page) where this applied, so it seemed appropriate to put it in there. It's not for me to decide how you display; I just didn't want the new format to eliminate the possibility of a different display name. Your choice!  Frank  |  talk  12:26, 17 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Obama stimulus

If you read the article that was used as a source, you will notice that this is exactly what it says.

U.S. GDP rises 3.5% as stimulus kicks in. Gains in consumer spending, inventories, housing drive growth

The U.S. economy expanded at a 3.5% annual pace in the third quarter, as massive government stimulus helped drag the economy out of the longest and deepest recession since the 1930s, the Commerce Department estimated Thursday.

I can understand why it may be premature to say that the recession is over, seeing as how it has yet to be officialy confirmed. However, we already know that the economy grew at a 3.5% pace, and that the article used as a source states that the economy started growing again exactly when the stimulus started to kick in. Therefore, wouldn't it be appropriate to include these things that are already known to be true. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joker123192 (talkcontribs) 01:36, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:V and WP:OR. Also, note that "as stimulus kicks in" in a headline is not nearly the same as saying "caused by the stimulus package." Furthermore, the article actually states that the cash-for-clunkers program was largely responsible for 3Q growth, and that wasn't even part of the stimulus package. Barack Obama is one of the largest and most highly-visited pages on the encyclopedia, and it is definitely a WP:BLP article, and it's on probation. Edits of the sort you've been making must be very carefully sourced. Please also note that when BLP issues are concerned, it is not considered WP:3RR to continue to revert edits that are inappropriate. Finally, I would say the place to discuss changes to that article is on its talk page, not here. That's where consensus will be developed.  Frank  |  talk  01:41, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Strom Thurmond edits

Please read the most current comments on this issue by Jusdfax <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jusdafax">here</a>. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cplessinger (talkcontribs) 18:22, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Take care, Cplessinger. Remember, I'm no admin. My comments reflect only my own views! Deep breaths, man! Jusdafax 18:25, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Please see the following: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cplessinger#Strom_Thurmond for my to your comments Frank. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cplessinger (talkcontribs) 18:36, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
More comments - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cplessinger#Strom_Thurmond

Christopher Plessinger 18:45, 18 November 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cplessinger (talkcontribs)

Candidates

Heh, I just realized my mistake at the same time you did but you beat me to the correction before I. Sorry about that. :P -WarthogDemon 22:56, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No problem at all. There may be others that are incorrectly listed.  Frank  |  talk  22:57, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please take more care when speedily deleting articles. You deleted the above article as G3 vandalism when it was nowhere near it (it was A7, non-notable person; G3 is only for blatant vandalism). Additionally, you did not notify the creator of the article. Mm40 (talk) 12:49, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Really? Loomis won the 1942 World Championship Yo-Yo competition was his famous behind the back double twist walk the dog move. With the $200 dollars he won, he decided to buy even more Yo-Yos and one Hula-Hoop. In the 1980’s he played back-up goalie for the Soviet Union hockey team, letting the USA team score the game winning goal by Mike Eruzione. After losing the Gold medal to the USA hockey team, Loomis returned to the states and he ran for President against Daddy Bush.  Frank  |  talk  12:52, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm pretty sure vandalism is more a page filled with "penis". I suppose this may be more "blatant hoax", but I didn't read past the introduction. Cheers, Mm40 (talk) 12:59, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm pretty sure that CSD G3 also includes blatant hoaxes, and I did read past the introduction before I deleted it.  Frank  |  talk  13:03, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rollback permission

You are listed as an administrator willing to grant rollback requests. Would you consider granting me rollback permission? Much of what I do is fixing vandalism, so it seems it would be helpful. Updatebjarni (talk) 20:31, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your contribution history is kind of thin but I don't see any problems with it, so I've granted you WP:ROLLBACK rights. Please read the policy and use appropriately; any admin can remove it as well if your use of rollback is found to be inappropriate. Thanks for your contributions!  Frank  |  talk  20:52, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! I'll use it carefully. Updatebjarni (talk) 00:10, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Hi, can you please help me file an arbcom case for SYJYTG to be unblocked? 121.7.203.152 (talk) 14:47, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As someone who has been involved in previous blocks and a socking investigation of User:Syjytg, I'm probably not the right person to be involved in this request. On what basis would you be making a request to unblock this account?  Frank  |  talk  15:09, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I have changed. I am not asking you to unblock me. Please do not misunderstand. I am asking to help me file a case in arbcom as I cannot do so. Thanks. 121.7.203.152 (talk) 15:13, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Please see Wikipedia:Appealing a block, in particular the Appeal to the Arbitration Committee section.  Frank  |  talk  15:43, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Standard_offer#How_does_it_work.3F. 121.7.203.152 (talk) 16:44, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Do you wish to make a statement in support being offered the "standard offer"? I would consider unprotecting your talk page for you to do so if you are serious. Do keep in mind that the socking was only part of the problem - the "last straw" so to speak. The reason you were socking is because you were blocked for edit warring; that must all be taken into account as well.  Frank  |  talk  17:01, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yes.

Farrah Fawcett

Hi! According to these two sites (www.statemaster.com, Accuracy Project site) Fawcett's birth certificate, which is usually the final word on this sort of thing, has "Ferrah" as her first name, although the Accuracy Project avers that this was a misspelling. Yours. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 15:28, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am personally acquainted with a situation in which a birth certificate was recorded incorrectly. That is not to say that I know hers was, but it could have happened, and given the sources available on this matter, that does appear to be what happened. Having said that, it is pretty much a moot point; we are generally not in the habit of using WP:PRIMARY sources anyway, and that's one reason why. The reliable sources mostly report she was born Farrah; since there are some that report Ferrah, that is also reflected in the article. The suggestion that "Mary" was somehow involved in her name doesn't appear to be supported anywhere reliable, however. The talk page for her article already has some discussion on this matter, and I recommend any further question be placed there.  Frank  |  talk  15:35, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]