Talk:Smart meter
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Wikified as part of the Wikification wikiproject! JubalHarshaw 19:47, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
Concern on External Links
Looks like the external links here is turning into a bit of a link farm. What should we include? Should it just be those that produce smart metering equipment (such as AMPY) or should also include any company offering to reduce bills? I'll return in a few days to clean up. Comments welcome. peterl 10:37, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
- I have again removed the link farm. WP is not a website directory, and WP:EL makes it pretty clear that such lists aren't appropriate. -- Mikeblas 12:24, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
Smart meter functionality
The smart meter has three main functions: measure, switch and communicate. The first and third are obvious. But how about the switch, why is this not mentioned in the introduction? Although not used much - so to hope - the switch is an important element. It is logical for a main reason. If the customer does not pay for the bill, or something rude is used against the meter, the switch will be turned off remotely. The switch on board can be used advantageous for the customer, to limit the consumed power. Exceeding this limit may lead to switching off, but the customer can switch on after reducing the load. This will become an active part in the as soon as the idea for the capacity-tariff is introduced. This is the contracted amount of power that may be consumed, limited to the capacity of the grid connection. The capacity tariff in combination with smart (sub)devices, will prevent the smart meter to switch off. So the portal from the smart meter to the user will get an important role as well. I think the triple functionality measure, switch and communicate should be mentioned in the introduction. Bouwhuise (talk) 23:54, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
- not only to limit the consumed power, but also to limit the power that enters the grid (in distributed generation). Mion (talk) 08:37, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
I do agree that switch should be mentioned in the introduction, as many of the concerns about and costs of "smart" meters arise from this function. It gives the utility control over a household in quite new ways.
In practice also, "smart" is used to cover many different aspects of the metering, and so is a generic term, without any clear interpretation as to functionality. In essence it is a propaganda term. How can one be against "smartness"? I think this means that an article should have some discussion about the meaning of differnt interpretations of smartness.
Nonintrusive load monitoring
I've just created the page Nonintrusive load monitoring. Does a summary belong on this page?--Nowa (talk) 14:34, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Adding new content -
Here is the content I like to add in the section: United States of Smart Meter.
California's population and per-person energy use continue to grow at a significant rate. As a result, state energy agencies and utilities are exploring ways to meet customers growing energy needs and offer incentives to conserve and shift usage away from periods of peak demand.
In 2004, the California Public Utilities Commission (CPUC) directed California's investor owned utilities (IOUs) to investigate implementation of an advanced metering infrastructure ("AMI"). AMI "smart" meters would allow customers to take advantage of dynamic rate programs, such as the "Time of Use" (TOU) rates available mostly to industrial customers. Southern California Edison, SCE (www.sce.com), analyzed available AMI technology at that time, and concluded that the limited functionality and operational benefits available at the time would not be cost-effective for SCE's ratepayers. SCE set out to work with meter manufacturers and technology vendors to develop a more advanced meter and communications system that would offer a cost-effective solution with added customer value and convenience. The result is SCE's AMI network called Edison SmartConnect, the nation's most advanced "smart" metering system. The program has redefined the automated metering industry, and is a key component of Edison's smart grid strategy, which brought Edison's grid into the digital age for improved grid management operations.
If possible, I like to have 2 external links to sce.com regarding smart meter in the See Also and External Links section.
Please let me know if it can be added or what need to be changed so it can be added to Wikipedia.
Thank you. Smartpage (talk) 17:10, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
- See also is for Wikilinks, there is no reason to have something as a See also and an external link. (Note that Southern California Edison already has a wikipedia entry, so if the company is mentioned in the text, a wikilink from that mentino to the wikipedia article might be appropriate.)
- For external links - see WP:EL. The website doesn't appear to qualify as a unique resource for this article.
- The text reads like an advertisement - some of it duplicates material already in the article. This article is about smart metering - we don't need to know about power regulation in California. It also doesn't say anything - what is so revolutionary/whatever about the aproach they took. Brief explanation of that might be worthy of inclusion.
- Needs references, reliable third party sources WP:RS to back it up. SCE or their press releases are not a reliable source to interpret what they are doing.
- To summarize suggestions for improvement:
- Hope that helps. Zodon (talk) 04:06, 5 November 2008 (UTC)