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Bot Stick with it on the bot. I realize it must be frustrating to spend a lot of time on the bot, then have to come back later, but I think the bot is a useful and desired utility and the wikipedia could be better for the time you spend on the bot getting new articles appropriately tagged so that, hope, someone brings them up to standards. --69.225.3.198 (talk) 09:28, 4 November 2009 (UTC) I think i spend several hundred of hours on Coreva so far in creating its outline, developing, correcting, once actually completely rewriting from scratch so far. However i enjoy doing so, and i appreciate any community feedback on its performance and usability. Coreva will potentially handle every new article created this could end up running into more then a thousand edits a day, more if its a busy day. Therefor it cannot be rushed out, only to discover that it mis tags several hundreds of article's. I very much prefer spending another week, or even months of implementing community feedback to make sure it behaves as well as a new page patrol. Another difficulty is the large number of exceptions - for one it ignores disambiguation pages, but those come in 110 or so different flavors; thus all need to be reliably checked against. Similarly we have a Harvard reference template which i never knew of and which wasn't correctly being detected and i can keep these examples up for a bit. Hence, Coreva isn't the only one constantly being improved, im still learning more and more in the process as well. :) Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 12:36, 4 November 2009 (UTC) ANI When you are right, you are right. Here is the promised . Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 13:43, 4 November 2009 (UTC) *Glug Glug Glug* - Cheers mate! ANI Seems to have solved at least something, though there is a new ARBCOM case to appeal the ANI discussion though. Either way, i don't believe that after the ARBCOM case there is anywhere left to continue debating this issue, so after that we should finally be done for. 4 days of discussion and more time invested by many editors then it would take to write two featured articles. *Sigh* Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 14:02, 4 November 2009 (UTC) WP:NEWT Hi there Excirial. I want to inform you that you were unwittingly part of an experiment of newbie treatment in which I participated under a different name. The purpose of WP:NEWT is to determine how experienced users would be treated if they were new users and created sub-standard but viable articles. The alternative account was LestWeBeScattered; you can find a description of my experience at WP:NEWT#Articles by Olaf Davis in case you are interested. Also, I want to apologise for having deceived you and used your time in this way, diverting it from real work on the encyclopedia. If I can offer my time and services for anything you need in return, feel free to ask at any time. Cheers, Olaf Davis (talk) 22:16, 5 November 2009 (UTC) Ah yes, i remember the mistake i made on that article pretty well, mostly because i felt particularly silly for tagging it. I had actually checked the article before tagging it, and having done so i found a couple of sources i wanted to add to it. At the same time i was busy working on Coreva, for which i needed an overview of the speedy deletion templates (conveniently listed under Twinkle's CSD tab). While busy with that task i forgot where i left my cursor and tapped the mouse, tagging the article, resulting in the nonsensical A3. I undid the damage quickly (At least, so i deemed it), and seeing this i doubted that the user would have seen the template before removing it. So i just made the improvements i had planned before proceeding to the next page and my coreva based activities. My thanks for that reality check you gave me describing what the new user would likely have experienced. I have become so utterly accustomed to seeing a message box, and using the page history, that i forgot how this could actually affect a new user who doesn't have to know this. In retrospect it may have been more prudent to drop a short note on this mistag, perhaps even extending it a bit to give some pointers for improving the article. Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 11:50, 6 November 2009 (UTC) Thanks for your reply, Excirial. I can definitely sympathise with that sort of click-in-the-wrong-place mistake. It's also very easy to see how logs of tagging work can disconnect you from what a newbie might think; I also sometimes tend to see templates, acronyms and so on as single units and sometimes forget what they looked like before I was familiar with them. It can take a conscious effort to remind myself I'm leaving messages to be read by an actual person! Anyway, I'm glad you've taken this as a constructive 'reality check' - as the experiment was designed to be. Happy editing, Olaf Davis (talk) 22:16, 7 November 2009 (UTC) AFD of Mac Tonnies Please take away your note on Mac ttonnies wikipage::Kesaloma (talk) 15:41, 8 November 2009 (UTC) Done. And my apologies for this definite mis-nomination for removal; I think i made a typo when searching for notability as i am certain i got only a handful of sources when i tried to establish notability (I think i searched for "Mac Tonies" instead, seeing as this gives a mere 27 links). Regardless of the reason its something that simply should not have happened in the first place; Again my sincere apologies for this mishap. Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 21:14, 8 November 2009 (UTC) Idea for Stubs on Wikipedia from Public Domain Books Hosted on Google Books Excirial, I wanted to get your opinion on an idea I had for creating new Wikipedia article stubs based on Public Domain Books hosted by Google Books. I got the idea when reading the Wikipedia Article on Wikipedia's Growth, link included here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Modelling_Wikipedia's_growth At one point in the article it mentioned that an article stub was created for every town in the United States by Rambot in October of 2002. Here is the quote from the article. "The sudden jump in article count in October 2002 is due to roughly 30,000 stub articles on U.S. towns and cities generated from a database being added by an auto-posting robot, Rambot, during an eight-day period. Although initially controversial as to whether these were "real" encyclopedia articles or merely "stubs", most of the Rambot articles have since been substantially expanded." That got me thinking that other large data sets of notable and important books might also be worth automatically creating stubs for which can then later be expanded upon. With this information still fresh in my mind I was checking up on the progress of Google Books and noted that they are now hosting more than 1,000,000 public domain books as part of their Google Books project. I think it would be an incredibly valuable resource to have a bot like Rambot which created the town stubs for the 30,000 cites of the United States to create 1,000,000 stubs for the public domain books hosted on Google Books. This is a resource of already vetted and notable material, hopefully in a standard format at Google of author, title, publication date, publishing group, summary of the book and more. Let me know what you think of the idea and if it has been tried before. I hope to hear from you soon. Sincerely, OrangeCorner OrangeCorner (talk) 11:23, 28 November 2009 (UTC) Melodycatcher Excirial, Why is the Melodycatcher article deleted again without any effort to comment on my changes or on what was needed. Why did I get no reaction on any question? What was different in this deleted article from the accepted article on the comparable system Musipedia ? Jvos (talk) 08:39, 1 December 2009 (UTC) Last reply 0ct 25?? Could I still expect any answer????? List of Governors of Rivers State I saw you speedy deleted this one in February 2008. I just recreated it - probably much the same. Check "What links here", for example Peter Odili, scroll to the navbox "Governors of Rivers State" at the foot of the page, and you will see the usage. Also see Wikipedia:A navbox on every page. The value of a list like this is to encourage users to browse articles on related subjects. Aymatth2 (talk) 21:05, 1 December 2009 (UTC) Herne Bay Museum and Gallery Hi Excirial. I have suggested the above page for Did You Know (December 3 section), but although most other entries for that day have received comments by administrators, Herne Bay Museum has so far not been noticed. Please could you let me know why? Thanks.--Storye book (talk) 21:05, 6 December 2009 (UTC)