Talk:Owl City

{{Editprotected}} I want to hopefully redo this entire wikipedia page with the most correct information about Owl City possible. If it is possible, can you keep the page locked so no further disputes will occur, but I can still keep the page updated? Thanks for your time.

What I would like to do is add a complete biography, discography, and more. All sourced and credited of course.

{{Editprotected}} Some information should be added about Swimming with Dolphins. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.243.151.27 (talk) 17:53, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Icecreamfreeze (talk) 08:11, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

What you can do:

1. Write the article in your user area, e.g. at User:Icecreamfreeze/Owl City, making sure it satisfies the concerns of the two deletion discussions:
   • Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Owl City
   • Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Owl City (2nd nomination)
2. Open a deletion review, linking to your article and explaining why it is suitable for inclusion.

— Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:34, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

LittleWick58 18:00, 9 August 2009 (CST)

I have added the Adam Young Discography. The information included is from the actual discs, the various MySpace pages, virb.com and personal conversations and experience. We live just down the road from Adam and have been following his various projects since late 2006. I hope I didn't make any mistakes by doing the editing the way I did but after a couple of hours of trying to work my way through the instructions I took a path that seemed to work. Please lt me know if there is more information or editing required.

LittleWick58 (talk) 00:22, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I like how the complete discographies of all his bands are listed. However, the list is a bit confusing for first-time readers. Is there anything we could do about that? Appreciate your hard work! Wikiisawesome (talk) 21:54, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Owl City is NOT EMO

emo is a category of a music genre UNDER ROCK. Since many have contested that Owl city is not rock, therefore, owl city is not emo since emo is a sub-category of rock.

Rename to "Adam Young"?

Seeing as this page doesn't only include info on Owl City, adding a little more information about Adam Young and his other projects and renaming the page seems like a good idea. Or, create a new page specifically about Owl City? Musicguyguy (talk) 23:55, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Leave it like it is. For an example similar to this, please check out Iron & Wine. 「ɠu¹ɖяy」¤ • ¢  23:58, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry if I'm confusing things with this blurb- but I'd just like to note that Owl City is NOT Port Blue, but a separate project altogether. Port Blue should not be redirected to the Owl City page. I didn't know where else to make this known. Sorry if its bad placement. 72.23.224.17 (talk) 17:10, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Voice types?

I saw the voice type has been listed as a tenor, that doesnt sound right, can someone please check. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.180.84.62 (talk) 20:24, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

He's a tenor. I can sing "Hello Seattle" in a bass voice ("He-llo Se-" using F2-Bb2-D3) and he sings an octave above me. Musicguyguy (talk) 03:08, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

he's definetely a tenor. the only change that you could possibly make would be to call him a counter-tenor, but he doesn't quite sing that high. Saksjn (talk) 17:13, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

he is like a inspiration to all people. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pimpgal8 (talk • contribs) 03:13, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Style?

(from on his MySpace page, http://www.myspace.com/owlcity) That's in the Musical style section... is that relevant to what is being talked about, or a source? 131.151.26.13 (talk) 20:10, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Owl City and AutoTune?

I've read a lot of comments on YouTube about how Adam Young uses AutoTune. Perhaps with a verifiable source this can be put on the page? Musicguyguy (talk) 03:11, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Autotune is absolutely worth mentioning. Personally I find his relentless use of autotune to be an irritating crutch that highlights his limited vocal and melodic style. Maybe there's a less grumpy way to say that though. 74.106.69.230 (talk) 07:52, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

There's some good information (facts, quotes, etc) in this article: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/21/arts/music/21owl.html - if anybody is interested in improving this article Kevin chen2003 (talk) 04:07, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Oh, yeah, and some guy on a forum says it is not Auto-Tune.

"actually, it is NOT auto tune.

It is a very similar plug-in, but it's called Celemony Melodyne.

I use it myself. It is very similar to auto-tune, but with ALOT more controlling options.

and yes, i am %100 sure that it is in fact Melodyne.

But yeah..... a lot of compression haha."

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=244509 Can anyone find some more sources? Kevin chen2003 (talk) 04:14, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Huh?

"The fastest selling electronic/alternative song ever". Really? What does that even mean? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.196.192.7 (talk) 16:43, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Seconded, needs much more clarification. Also, somewhere in the article, it says that Owl City and Lights follow each other on Twitter. Most of that section seems to need revision, too much irrelevant information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.205.229.73 (talk) 15:17, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Ocean Eyes

Ocean Eyes is the 2009 sophomore album from Owl City, a project consisting of synthpop artist Adam Young. The album features guest vocals by Relient K vocalist Matt Thiessen on the number one single "Fireflies", "Cave In", "The Bird and the Worm" and "Tidal Wave." It was released on July 14, 2009, to iTunes, and on September 1, 2009 to stores with a photograph of the Burj Al Arab as its album artwork. On July 14, 2009, the song "Fireflies" was chosen as the Single of the Week by the iTunes music store. This led to a huge success as the song was downloaded over 650,000 times and helped the album reach #2 on the US store. This success also led to the record company pushing back the release date of the physical copy of the album to July 28, 2009 from September 1, 2009.[2] The album sold approximately 18,000 copies digitally in its debut week. The album has since sold over 180,000 copies worldwide and reached the top ten in the US peaking at #8 the same week its lead single "Fireflies" topped the Hot 100.

Track listing

All songs written and composed by Adam Young, except where noted.

1. Title Writer(s) Length

1. "Cave In" (featuring Matthew Thiessen) 4:02 2. "The Bird and The Worm" (featuring Matthew Thiessen) Young, Matthew Thiessen 3:27 3. "Hello Seattle" 2:47 4. "Umbrella Beach" 3:50 5. "The Saltwater Room" (featuring Breanne Duren) 4:02 6. "Dental Care" 3:11 7. "Meteor Shower" 2:14 8. "On the Wing" 5:04 9. "Fireflies" (featuring Matthew Thiessen) 3:48 10. "The Tip of the Iceberg" 3:22 11. "Vanilla Twilight" 3:51 12. "Tidal Wave" (featuring Matthew Thiessen) Young, Thiessen 3:10 iTunes Bonus tracks

1. Title Length

13. "Hello Seattle (Remix)" 5:53 14. "If My Heart Was a House" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.188.225.27 (talk) 01:00, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Unproven categories

Owl City is placed under some vegetarian, Christian and "bedroom musician" (??) categories, although the article text does not claim he is any of those, let alone provide any supporting references. These categories should be removed unless some proof is provided. 65.95.171.151 (talk) 04:20, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Took out the categories for which there was no mention in the article. The categories can be added back if WP:RS can be cited and supporting text added. Dl2000 (talk) 04:26, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Liner notes for Ocean Eyes say "All praise & glory to Jesus Christ, to whom I owe everything." His music may not be Christian rock, but he is definitely a Christian musician. 169.231.38.39 (talk) 08:33, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Postal Service rip-off and Relationships

Re this edit, note that a number of publications have accused Owl City of "ripping off" The Postal Service,and that his relationships included his girlfriend (name not disclosed) that passed away in a car crash. referenced. I also added that Owl City denies the claims, referenced. It is, per WP:NPOV, a "significant [view] that [has] been published by reliable sources," and by providing the other side of the argument, is presented quite fairly. How is this not NPOV? Perhaps the wording could be changed (something like "with a number of publications going as far as claiming [...]"), but the point is still significant. -M.Nelson (talk) 06:45, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

I haven't got a chance to look at all the references, but the 4th one (in the article, 2nd one below, "Whooo's Owl City?" says "His home recordings are a charming takeoff -- OK, sometimes they sound like a blatant rip-off -- of the Postal Service." which is by no means an actual accusation of being a rip off, so someone needs to go through those references and delete those not appropriate, or rephrase based on what the references actually say and not what those who referenced them want them to say. Valethar (talk) 11:24, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Owl City is not ....

...alternative rock. Nirvana is alternative rock. Radiohead is alternative rock. Owl City is not rock. Now, he MIGHT be considered alternative, but he's definitely not alternative rock.

...Emo. Owl City is emo influenced, yes, after all, Matt Thiessen of Relient K is basically an unofficial member of Owl City. You might say Owl City is post-emo.

...indie ROCK. Owl City is indie, yes. but he's not rock. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DriveMySol (talk • contribs) 22:28, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

What does it mean that his synths are more like late 90s rave music? That doesn't even make sense.64.81.167.213 (talk) 00:56, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Agreed. and the comment about late 90s rave music must have been written by someone with very little (if any) knowledge of music. The Prodigy, Aphex Twin, sound absolutely nothing like this pop singer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.150.32.5 (talk) 04:53, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Awkward Construction?

Sorry. I'm not well versed in how to edit Wikipedia pages, but could someone who is somewhat skilled at using this site rewrite the following: "Owl City is an American synthpop musical project by Adam Young. Young started out making music in his parents' basement in Owatonna, Minnesota[4] which he claims is a result of his insomnia." The way that this intro is worded suggests that his parents' basement is the result of his insomnia. I think that something like this might work a little bit better: "Owl City is an American synthpop musical project by Adam Young. Young claims he started out making music in his parents' basement in Owatonna, Minnesota[4] as a result of his insomnia."

Wikinovice828 (talk) 01:11, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Early Birdie

I just saw a music video on youtube for the song Early Birdie and it was deffinately Adam in it so I wondering was that song released as a single? Is there some way to find this out? As a side note I remember when Fireflies was #1 his other two albums were selling within the top 100 of iTunes so maybe they entered the billboard top 200? here's the link for the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUxLpFilyNM&feature=related 209.91.47.198 (talk) 18:15, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Influences?

Lets be honest. His only influence is The Postal Service. Its sounds like Give Up is the only album he's ever heard in his life. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.63.46.64 (talk) 03:22, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Do you have a source? BOVINEBOY2008 :) 05:51, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

separate biographical and musical project article?

Should there be a separate article on Young himself? This is his project and so it should only include minimal information about him (only his influences) and more on his music. Just a suggestion 121.91.95.130 (talk) 07:16, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Young is only really notable for his work as Owl City. All press, etc, relating to him is about his music; even if there was an article about him personally, there would not be enough sources to write a personal biography with. -M.Nelson (talk) 16:12, 13 January 2010 (UTC)