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Newtown-Stephensburg Historic District

Hey Acroterion, I am working on the Newtown-Stephensburg Historic District (among other Stephens City, Virginia related pages) and the N-SHD only has 4 references. Not alot.

The references are...

  • Virginia Department of Historic Resources
  • nationalregisterofhistoricalplaces.com
  • United States Department of the Interior
  • Newtown History Center

Is there any other sources that I should be using for references? I feel the page is light on references, but am not sure where to turn. This is my first jount into the arena of National Register of Historic Places. If you could let me know where you go to reference pages like this and even take a look at the page, I would appreciate it :) - NeutralHomer • Talk • 00:15, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For Virginia, VLR and NRHP nomination PDFs and other materials are available, by county and independent city, at the Virginia Landmarks Registry here. This will be the actual NRHP nomination document, which should be essential. Acroterion (talk) 00:57, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Don't have the link to the only picture that site has, but I do have the PDF document for the nomination document and the PDF version of the map they used referenced on the page. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 01:03, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Then you're most of the way there; there usually aren't many other items available, although if the NRHP nom has a bibliography, those sources should be checked out. Acroterion (talk) 01:05, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I will check that out and add it to the page as well. I wasn't sure if NRHP articles had many edits or just a few as this is my first delve into it and trying to get it looking good. Might take some more pictures later on this Spring to get an updated shot of the town. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 01:10, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The next couple of weeks will be a good time to get pictures of streetscapes - there's a little green and some blossoms, but not big inconvenient treefuls of leaves. Acroterion (talk) 01:14, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, Virginia is a-bloom with Cherry and Apple Blossoms and Dogwoods among others.
Got a NRHP question. What is a "contributing" and "non-contributing" property? You can find it on the right hand side of this document, first page. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 01:21, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
A contributing property is of the time and character of the district, and usually either has some distinction of its own, or is an appropriate background structure in the historic district. A non-contributing structure is at odds with the place and is usually out of the time period. Think of a Sheetz store in the middle of a bunch of sober Federal-style houses. Acroterion (talk) 01:46, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hey...Good Example! There is a Sheetz right outside the N-SHD. You literally cross the street on the side of the Sheetz and you are in the N-SHD. But that makes sense, there are some apartments (probably built in the 80s) and of course the Exxon and Sheetz that would be out. So I can add that. I looked at the long history that the NHRP nomination had and it is pretty much a mirror (in different words) of the history on the Stephens City page, so I am going to stick with what I have. I might use your explanation of the contributing/non-contributing property, if you don't mind. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 01:52, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm pretty sure the Sheetz must have stuck in my mind from the last time I was in town a couple of years ago. I wouldn't try to highlight the contributing/non-contributing thing too much, as it's a bit jargonish, but it might be worth a couple of sentences. Acroterion (talk) 01:57, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, neat! I will add some information about it, but keep it to a sentence or two. Thanks for your help :) - NeutralHomer • Talk • 02:00, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mr. Ed

Actually, User:Tryntius editor was right. Snopes confirms it. Mr. Ed was a zebra. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 03:41, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, not buying it. B&W technology wasn't so bad that a zebra would appear as a palomino, zebras are notoriously hard to train, and there's more to a zebra than stripes. Also, the NFL business is fantasy, as is the Johnny Cash item. Acroterion (talk) 13:05, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
When I saw that Mr. Ed page on Snopes that Neutralhomer linked to, my first thought was that it was an April Fool's Day joke. --Orlady (talk) 14:12, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Every now and then, Snopes can be disappointing. In this case there are numerous sources verifying that the protagonist was a palomino horse named Bamboo Harvester, and the rest of the Snopes article stretches credulity even farther. Having watched Mister Ed in the original in the 60s, I find I know more than I should about talking horses. In later life I found it fascinating that as an architect in the days of hand-drawn plans, Wilbur Post had plenty of time to hobnob with his horse. Acroterion (talk) 14:25, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I am not saying we should use it, but was saying the source the user was using was correct, though going about it in a very bad way. I bet (though didn't look) there are plenty of better sources that show Mr. Ed. was a horse (of course, of course) and Snopes isn't going to change those. Just was pointing out this one instance. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 17:11, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

hi

who are you? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sabreena312 (talk • contribs) 13:00, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am what I am. Acroterion (talk) 13:06, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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A bold assertion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_Copenspire << That page is not vandalism. Why did you delete it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Qundzy (talk • contribs) 03:25, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I strongly disagree. Vandalism it was, deleted it is. Acroterion (talk) 03:29, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Acroterion. You have new messages at ThaddeusB's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Questions

I would like to ask you what is inappropriate about my article Dave Tower ? I have not done anything malicious, violent, expletive, or anything. I have just done an article about a person i know. Actually, my Harvard Professor. So i really do not understand what is wrong with my article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Redsoxworld (talk • contribs) 01:59, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Replied on your talk page. Acroterion (talk) 02:02, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

First off, this is no joke or prank. This is my professor. He is a brilliant man that is very smart. Yes, he has done LSD. And no, i am not going to lie to you since what is the point. The true meaning of this article is to show how the world is guided by young chemists. If you are really mad about this.. Then you would have already deleted this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Redsoxworld (talk • contribs) 02:06, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm glad you like your instructor, but you have provided no indication that the person meets our inclusion guidelines. Acroterion (talk) 02:19, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

www.themostseconds.com page

Why did you delete this? It was for a website that i was requested to make it for theem

Wikipedia isn't a place to advertise, or to post articles on websites that don't meet Wikipedia's guidelines for web content - see WP:WEB. Acroterion (talk) 23:18, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, im sorry for vandalising
Plz come make a profile at, www.themostseconds.com and see why i was making the page, these ppeople are really fun people, plz use your current name as well so i can identifie you, thank you!
Go in the chat room to meet them
Thanks
Thanks all the same. You weren't vandalizing, the article just doesn't meet inclusion requirements. Acroterion (talk) 23:39, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Category sorting

Just a reminder that the DEFAULTSORT markup is correctly in uppercase with a colon, not lowercase with a pipe, e.g. {{DEFAULTSORT:Saint-Cyr, Fort de}}, not {{defaultsort|Saint-Cyr, Fort de}}. —Paul A (talk) 01:24, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, thanks for catching that. Acroterion (talk) 01:29, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion converted to PROD: Whirls theory

Hello Acroterion. I am just letting you know that I have converted the speedy deletion tag that you placed on Whirls theory to a proposed deletion tag, because I do not believe CSD applies to the page in question. I'm maybe assuming too much good faith: it's clearly OR, but I don't think there is the intent to deceive which is the essence of a hoax. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 15:08, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's fine: I agree that there appears to be no deceptive intention there. The OR is another matter, but we have no CSD/OR. Acroterion (talk) 16:36, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

vandalism

Note that User:Eddievedder93, whom you warned recently about a bogus page creation, has now vandalized two pages. Tb (talk) 16:47, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for letting me know: blocked. Acroterion (talk) 17:18, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

North Georgetown

Thanks for responding to the question; I've added a reply. By the way, would you be willing to watch my talk and respond to other questions for several days? I'm planning to be gone from early Friday to mid-to-late Monday, and I'm not going to have consistent Internet. Nyttend (talk) 04:03, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Will do. Acroterion (talk) 16:34, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks much. I'm hoping to bring back pictures of various NRHP locations, including some Monongahela village sites in southwestern PA. I was hoping to visit the Meadowcroft Rockshelter, but unfortunately they don't open until May :-( Nyttend (talk) 22:45, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your help. Turned out that I only got one of the sites; most of them were too far away, and the roads were so poorly marked that I couldn't find the closest one. I'd never driven in the rural roads of Appalachia, so I never realised how slow and confusing they are if one isn't familiar with them. Nyttend (talk) 01:31, 20 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Happy Nyttend Day (after the fact) ! I've had much the same problem - I go out with a list, map, coordinates and a GPS, and still come back with nothing much. There's no safe place to park, or the subject is obscured by trees, wires, mountains, a big damn fence, dung heaps, signs ($1.99 special!!!), the subject's better lighted in morning/afternoon/summer/winter/never, or I just get lost anyway. It's hard enough when you know the place well, and it all takes three times as long as you'd expect. Still, I've learned a few things, but I will admit it's much easier in somewhere like, say, Delaware than the hills of SW PA. Acroterion (talk) 12:16, 20 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Frederick County Public Schools

As my quest to get the Stephens City, Virginia page up to Good Article snuff is at a lull, I am working on a side project. I am working on updating the Frederick County Public Schools page. So far, I have just the names of the schools (elementary, middle and high), the alternative schools, and the defunct schools.

My idea is that on the main Frederick County Public Schools page, there will be blurb histories of each school, a picture, and a link to the main article about the school. You can see the setup of the right now here.

What I was most surprised with was the defunct schools, by far. There are TONS of them. I though I knew alot about the county, was I sorely wrong. My question for you, since there will be articles about defunct schools (and historic ones probably) how should I proceed? There will be ALOT of information, ALOT of trips to the Archives Department at the library and ALOT of trips to the Archives in the county courthouse. I don't want to get wordy and put EVERYTHING in there or do I? What should I put in articles about defunct schools that would make them notable? I know current and recently defunct schools are notable, but these are like 40 and 50 years defunct, if not more.

If you could leave me some ideas, take a look at the page, and let me know what you think, as always, I would appreciate it. Take Care...NeutralHomer • Talk • 05:14, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You can usually see several phases of school construction in the eastern US: a frame schoolhouse built by locals for a hired schoolmaster, a county-sponsored brick schoolhouse from the late 19th century, a larger building from the teens or '20s, bigger, flatter schools from the 50s and 60s, and so on. It's an interesting research project: the problem is, it's a research project, and trips to the county archives and such amount to primary sources and original research. Not saying that it's not worthwhile, but it's of limited use here on WP. I'd summarize as much as possible, as detailed information starts to creep outside the project scope here. As you observe, notability issues are apparent, although they would be less so in a summary article. I would be in favor of a concise summary, focusing on schools that have some notability in WP terms and which are documented in secondary sources. You can mention others, but should keep it to a mention.
You may well end up with a small book that could be published under the auspices of the local historical society - in other words, a valuable contribution to scholarship on the history of Frederick County. But it's different in concept and scope from WP, so you'll have to keep that distinction in mind and use information judiciously. Acroterion (talk) 16:45, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Andrew Chrucky

Why did you delete my Andrew Chrucky entry? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jfeen (talk • contribs) 00:47, 17 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I deleted Talk:Andrew Chrucky, which was an orphaned talk page. The main article was deleted as a bare link to an eternal site. By the way, please do not remove speedy deletion tags from articles you've created yourself, and please review WP:ACADEMIC for notability criteria for academic figures. Acroterion (talk) 00:54, 17 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Phipple

why did you delete my article phipple? What did you find wrong with it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4everPhipple (talk • contribs) 00:36, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Do you really need to ask? "Phipple: A mix between a hippie and a pimple. You can find these rare Phipples inside 2001 year old trees. This spieces can be identified by thier afros and thier habbit to call people by thier last name." Hardly material for an encyclopedia. Acroterion (talk) 00:40, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion

why did you delete my page New Venetian Empire all my pictures were legitimate because i made them on inkscape Cheekyboyz93 (talk) 16:47, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Replied on your talkpage. Acroterion (talk) 16:48, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

i dont care i spent a lot of time making that page so please return it as i am a MICRONATION!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cheekyboyz93 (talk • contribs) 16:53, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia isn't a place for you to post hoaxes, fiction, or things you made up one day. Can you provide three articles in major newspapers that cover this place? This is a standard means for determining whether a subject meets notability guidelines.Acroterion (talk) 16:55, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

please reinstate my page thank you Cheekyboyz93 (talk) 17:00, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I proved Gatling (band) was liable to be on Wikipedia due to rule 11 of the qualification for notability. Please un-delete the article, or explain to me in greater detail why it was delted. Thanks!

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