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Web Gallery of Art
Vernon, just for your info, this site (Raphael paintings etc) is itself a copyvio site, usually lifting it's copy wholesale from art history books. Personally I'd just remove these paras without bothering with the template. Johnbod (talk) 14:41, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, unless the art history books are public domain then the text is still copyvio from somewhere. But as far as removing the paragraphs, I could (or you could), but I'm just a sucker for classic art, so I'd rather see it rewritten than removed (and I'm not good at rewriting, which is why I'm blanking and listing them for others to clean up if they can). VernoWhitney (talk) 14:44, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, something (either deleting or rewriting) will happen to them about a week after I tag them, since that's how long things are left in queue at WP:CP. Some of my earlier taggings were delayed a bit because there was a glimmer of hope that wga.hu had given permission for a bunch of its text to be copied to Wikipedia, but I assure you that the won't "sit there looking ugly" for too long. Of course, if you're volunteering to rewrite them, feel free and the templates can be removed that much sooner. VernoWhitney (talk) 14:55, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ok - I've seen that "permission" in the past, but they don't have the copyright to give it away. I'm surprised the publishers have let them get away with it all these years - Hungarian copyright law is standard and enforceable. Johnbod (talk) 15:04, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If you happen to know which books they've copied from, I'd appreciate it, because there are four articles in particular ([1], [2], [3], and [4]) which we've been leaving alone because we have permission from the website, and I haven't come across the text online anywhere else besides that site and Wikipedia mirrors, but I'm willing to double check them against some hardcopy sources if you know some particulars. VernoWhitney (talk) 15:10, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In general no, they just seem to use fairly standard works on each artist, usually not available online. For example all the Durer print entries are word for word from the Dover complete engravings/woodcuts books. But it will be a copyvio from somewhere. Johnbod (talk) 15:24, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Since you obviously know more about this area than I do, any chance you know what the standard works might be for Caravaggio and Verrocchio, so I can track them down at my local library? VernoWhitney (talk) 15:40, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That's outstanding, thanks! And from what we saw he hasn't copied any material since he was notified that there might be a problem back in late '05, it's just that nobody went through and cleaned them up yet. Now at least we actually have a process for dealing with extensive copyright problems, so we've just added the artwork to the backlog. Thanks again for that reference. VernoWhitney (talk) 12:31, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I am confused how can I do copyright infringement on our own web site... it is our words we have the copyright? Can I please put it back up? It will take a week or two to get the page in order but allow us to do it before you start clipping it I have till the 20th to get it in order... I have serval others from the group that will swing by and make corrections but wow I can not put words from our own web site.... I give permission to myself to use our words. --Happypixie (talk) 18:50, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Could you please reference the source that you say the paragraph is infringing? Also could you add to the articles discussion page the the comparative sections so that other people can take a look at the alleged infringement? Onefinalstep (talk) 18:53, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I keep seeing your name pop up while reviewing copyright violations for speedy deletion. Keep up the good work :). - 2/0 (cont.) 19:28, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry that the automated message caused a panic. Unless the bibliography is only a selected portion of his works, then it can't actually be copyrighted, so there shouldn't be a problem anyways. Of course the bot doesn't know what content is creative and what isn't, and so tags anything that matches a large amount of text in order to notify people (like me), that a problem may exist. I'll keep an eye on your article for a while, but I don't expect any copyright problems. Cheers! VernoWhitney (talk) 12:27, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, VW. I've decided that the article would be better subtitled as (publisher) but there doesn't seem an immediate way to change this from (writer). Would you be kind enough to tell me how I can amend the heading? Thx Mzilikazi1939 (talk) 19:16, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I am new to wikipedia, probably this was one of my first article, though the article looks a close paraphrase I request you to keep the article as it until someone challenges to delete it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Udgikerian (talk • contribs) 11:04, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
For jumping in at the help desk - the OP was clealry not fully satisfied with my answer (not was I) so I'm happy to see additional comments on the subject.--SPhilbrickT02:04, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No problem, since MRG's taking a short break starting tomorrow, and I work in roughly the same area (although I'm not nearly as eloquent or expert as she) I'm just making an extra effort to stalk her page. VernoWhitney (talk) 02:12, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
BLANKING PAGE
cOPYRIGHT VIOLATION PAGE IS OBSOLETE, ARTICLE HAVING BEEN REWRITTEN ACCEPTABLY. (CONTINUED EXISTENCE OF PAGE GIVES IMPRESSION THAT REVISED ARTICLE IS IN VIOLATION.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hylomorphism (talk • contribs) 21:27, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi!
I'm quite new at Wikipedia. When creating an entry for GEF I did not intend to violate copyright, then I changed the entry just giving a brief idea of what was published earlier. Again there are some problems. Can you be so kind as to tell me what I can do know. I have acknowledged all the sources I have used. How can I defend my entry? Thanks in advance for your kind cooperation!
Lila Religa (talk) 22:36, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
While you reworded the text so it is not a direct copy of the source and so not in any danger of immediate deletion, it appears that User:GregJackP feels that what you have now is a close paraphrase, at least of http://www.gef.eu/index.php?id=4, which is still a copyright problem as a derivative work. Since he's the one that tagged the article as a continuing copyright problem, I recommend that you ask him for further clarification as to just which parts remain problematic. VernoWhitney (talk) 00:31, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
CHS Electronics
The CHS Electronics article is neither objective or factual. The author is obviously biased against the individuals. In the author's comments on your talk page he uses the word "prosecution" which shows malice and negative intent when the case was actually a dismissed class action suit. The company was built over 14 years, but the original writer has only talked about the bankruptcy and alleged fraud. I am making a formal request to remove this article, or I would happy to create a new article for CHS. This article should be the story about the company and not the individuals.
I agree with you that the author appears to be particularly biased, but as the article is not entirely negative in tone and does include sources, it does not meet our criteria for speedy deletion as an "attack page". I also agree that the article should be about the company and not the individuals. You are more than welcome to rewrite the article to bring it in line with our policies regarding a neutral point of view. The edits you have already made this morning appear to be a good start in that direction. VernoWhitney (talk) 13:31, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Question
Coren flagged a copy-vio on one article, where the 'violation' is copied track listings. These aren't copyrighted, are they? Acather96 (talk) 08:10, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, VernoWhitney. You have new messages at Acather96's talk page. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Uh, you're welcome, I guess. I can't say that I have a real opinion about the AfD myself, but I find canvassing to be reprehensible. VernoWhitney (talk) 12:31, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! I'm sorry I didn't come up with more, but for some odd reason most of the sources appeared to be in Portuguese (which I fail at), so I couldn't tell which ones even might be reliable sources with new information. I do have one news source to add later, but it will probably have to wait until tomorrow. Cheers! VernoWhitney (talk) 17:27, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I see. Thanks very much for looking into it. It looks like it all comes out in the wash, but I try to be "by the book", so knowing the exact score is never a bad thing! - Vianello (Talk) 22:58, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Reminder and Barnstar
I am very sorry that I was gone several days and had forgotten about the article List of The 39 Clues characters. I am continuing on editing the article today, and I'm hoping I could finish the article tomorrow or until Monday. I just want to remind you that I placed the "Currently Editing" Template once more for I will be expanding the article the next days. - FDJoshua22 (talk) 10:37, 20 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, and this is a barnstar that I think is appropriate for your hard works. I honestly think you have leadership quality because you are well-recognized with all Wikipedia guidelines.
Thanks a ton! There's no worries with the tag going back on, there's just not much point in it unless it really is being actively worked on. I think your rewrite of the article is outstanding, and there's almost no information remaining in List of teams in The 39 Clues that you haven't already put into List of The 39 Clues characters and sourced remarkably well. Cheers! VernoWhitney (talk) 12:50, 20 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, I have reverted to your clean version and tagged the article for further improvement. You may always rewrite the previous content to expand the article, so long as you use your own words and don't copy and paste from another web site to do so. VernoWhitney (talk) 19:18, 20 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I put it back, sorry - the user appeared to be legitimately trying to remove the copyright violation from their page so it didn't get speedily deleted and it took me a little bit to notice the AfD tag. VernoWhitney (talk) 19:25, 20 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, again. I am currently editing right now. I was just wondering if I should include storylines about the seven teams. e.g.:
Amy and Dan Cahill: Amy and Dan Cahill (from Boston, USA) are the protago....................In the third book, they formed an alliance with The Kabras.
I was just asking if I should do that for I did the same thing on Mission, Fictional Non-Cahill, and Non-Fictional characters. e.g.:
Theo Cotter: Theo Vale-Cotter (from Cairo, Egypt) is Hillary Vale's son. He is an archaeologist and Egyptologist who helped Amy and Dan Cahill recover the third Sakhet in the fourth book. However, he tried to steal it from them later with his aunt.
You'll have to take this as just my opinion, since I've never actually written about fiction on a scale like this before. That said, I don't see a problem with including storylines in the character list you're working, although I do think most of the emphasis for storylines should be included in the character section for each individual novel (and it may very well be easier for you to do the work all in one place and then only the relevant tidbits are copied to each book's article). VernoWhitney (talk) 04:52, 22 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Talkback
Hello, VernoWhitney. You have new messages at Greg L's talk page. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
You have been awarded the Sewer Cover Barnstar because you can read through anything. You don’t know the meaning of attention deficit disorder, laugh in the face of boredom, and are wasting your talents if you don’t become a patent examiner.
Verno, thank you very much for toughing through the Sewer Cover Barnstar challenge. Thanks also for the kind words (I think that your page might very well be the most interesting essay, or whatever you want to call it, that I've come across on Wikipedia) you left on my talk page telling me of your accomplishment. You have rightfully earned your place as a member of a very exclusive club: those who have toughed out the challenge by wading through four entire articles of date-related trivia. This club is populated exclusively by those who can tough through abject boredom and prevail using nothing but shear willpower. Greg L (talk) 21:54, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
