Talk:Unitatis redintegratio

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Merger proposal

I propose merging the Separated brethren article into this article (Unitatis Redintegratio). Though the term was apparently coined earlier, the term "separated brethren" was first officially used by the Catholic Church in the Unitatis Redintegratio document. It was this use, within the context of Vatican II, that gives the term whatever significance it has or had. There has been debate about the significance of the term on Talk:Separated brethren, including at least one editor who has doubts about the import of the term at all ([1]). Regardless, the term can be best explained and placed in context within this article. Giving the term its own article would either cause duplication of the context that Unitatis Redintegratio should provide or would make it seem as if the term has more independent significance than the reliable sources indicate, or worse, would allow for the Separated brethren article to stray into WP:OR and WP:NPOV problem areas as it has in the past. Novaseminary (talk) 17:03, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

provoking things again huh?

And bringing this matter up again for uptight personal reasons, when it was already a settled matter a while back.....even where you came to agree. Now you do this.

Of course that's no surprise at all, as other editors have come to know how you are....

Anyway...I already proved fairly well why it should be its own article, (more than once this matter has been discussed, but since you're unstable and you change your mind on a whim, and can't be trusted, this matter is brought up again by you....)

seriously this matter has been DISCUSSED AND SETTLED ALREADY. Do you care about "stand-alone" topics that are sourced by themselves, and true WP policy on the matter? Obviously not....cuz this nonsense is a running issue with you.

and I cited VERBATIM where you're wrong. Do I have to paste it here again? It's a stand-alone subject, and it is referenced by itself, and and and WIKIPEDIA POLICY SAID THAT THINGS LIKE THAT SHOULD NOT BE MERGED OR DELETED. I love how you respect that. Then you wonder why I have SEVERE problems with you, Nova....and why I wish you would just go away (at least from this article). You never change, and you can't be trusted. And you have serious issues. And find fault with almost everything. THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED AND SETTLED.......A LONG TIME AGO NOW... yet for some reason you neurotically cannot let this go.

and again, to re-iterate to you check this down below again:

Merging should NOT be considered if

  1. The resulting article is too long or "clunky"
  2. The separate topics could be expanded into longer standalone (but cross linked) articles
  3. The topics are discrete subjects and deserve their own articles even though they may be short

as for number 3, there's NO QUESTION that that applies to the "Separated brethren" article. It's a subject that ALONE is sourced and referenced and of interest and importance. There is a number of sources that deal with the specific term "Separated brethren" alone.

So, as I said, to answer your question, yes, I do have WP policy and guideline to support my position. This subject alone is easily sourced, and easily recognized, and independent, on its own, and can be proven to be so...and that's a lot of the criteria and policy.(As you yourself admitted.) Sweetpoet (talk) 21:54, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]