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Injury

[1] — The second reference doesn't appear to be a correct one. I read the reference and it says nothing about Criss being injured for 3 weeks and having to stop production. Remove? — ク Eloc 貢 02:22, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Can we discuss the biggest embarrassment in magic history? The "IMPLOSION ESCAPE".After advertising a 'LIVE" show to show he could perform live, he used a PRE-RECORDED" tape showing him running through the building while he ran to the building next to it. While going through the first door inside, the handcuffs in his pocket disappeared when they cut to the tape. FOX13 NEWS reported this shortly after the live show ended, exposing his phony trick.I posted on the A&E board, a week before it aired how he would do this trick. He actually stole the method from David Copperfield who did the building implosion trick 18 years ago. Most of his tricks are edits and 'Digital Compositing'. He's the biggest fraud in the magic field.=No criticism listed? Really? Really?== The handicapped woman who's body was missing from the waste down in the "illusion" in the city park. Didn't he catch some flack for that stunt? Come on. This guy is one of the biggest douchebags in the entertainment industry. The article is fairly rosy, though. --24.21.148.212 (talk) 07:35, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Could it be that he didn't catch any flack for making half a woman disappear because it was an illusion? He often goes a step further with his act and try to make it look like he or someone else was injured, which can take at least as much talent as making look like he pulled off a trick successfully. Ian.thomson (talk) 11:54, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

I don't think you understand what he was saying. He should rightfully have been criticized for the stunt on the grounds that 1) it shows some (slight) insensitivity to the handicapped and 2) more importantly, it proves that his tricks aren't illusions at all. The entire premise of his act is "street magic" where he is supposedly going out and amazing random people in public. If he is using a mixture of stooges, camera cuts and special effects, then it really isn't any more of an "illusion" than Star Wars is. For example knowing a card that someone chose from a deck is somewhat impressive normally, but not impressive at all if the person is in on it. Disappearing into thin air in public would be impressive under normal circumstances, but isn't so if all you did was turn the camera off for a minute and then walk out of the shot. So yes, perhaps he should be criticized for holding himself out to be a magician rather than just an amateur special effects artist. 76.123.243.142 (talk) 17:46, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Edit: I don't really know how to address this in the article without getting into pure speculation, but the "woman pulled apart" trick and all of his other tricks can quite easily be explained by using stooges, special effects and camera cuts. Take the video in question: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OepvNl9AwtE . Note the fact that it is a small group of people watching, how the camera cuts every few seconds during the trick and uses extreme close-ups and how the people actually involved in the trick are the ones supposedly surprised. Take for example as well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBQLq2VmZcA where he walks on water. Again, despite the fact that this looks like a major hotel swimming pool, there are very few people actually there, and there is a camera cut every few seconds. The far away shots can be explained by him standing on glass or plastic in the pool, and the closer shots are all overhead ones or ones at foot level which can be explained by him simply being suspended over the water while moving his feet. (Note also the one point with an overhead shot where a swimmer goes under him and blows bubbles just to prove that he isn't really standing on something in the pool). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.123.243.142 (talk) 18:08, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

With what little 24.21.148.212 had written, and most of my past experiances with people that have a problem with Criss Angel (I've had the misfortune of coming across a number of folks that think he's demonically possessed, even after I explained how he pulled the tricks off), it appeared to me that he was talking about Criss Angel actually being responsible for the woman missing her legs. Bit of paranoia on my part. However, Webster's defines an illusion as "the action of deceiving," "a misleading image presented to the vision." Criss Angel's stuff isn't streeet magic, but it does consist of illusions (it deceives most of his viewers). If you can find a source that criticizes his act as being special effects and not prestidigitation, go on and put it in the article. Ian.thomson (talk) 20:32, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

--Part in Pop Culture about being in Harry Potter is completely made up. How to remove? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Howardcdavis (talk • contribs) 17:53, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay, he isn't a MAGICIAIAN really, he is an ILLOUSIONIST. He's a little bit of both, it's not ment to be magic in the first place. So get over yoursleves who think otherwise.

It isn't about him being in Harry Potter, it's about him as a character in an episode of Robot Chicken that makes fun of Harry Potter. Ian.thomson (talk) 02:52, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Added story

Criss Angel is under investigation for pet theft - here's the reference: [2] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yeknomgod (talk • contribs) 14:25, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Page Six, a noted gossip column, isn't going to work as a reference. If something develops, then its workable. --Bobak (talk) 17:09, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Another story regarding the pet theft - ref [3] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.77.85.59 (talk) 15:35, 26 May 2009 (UTC) and another [4]

The Sun and the Star Magazine? Two tabloids? Yeah, really reliable sources... Ian.thomson (talk) 14:57, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

He made it into the Hot Chicks with Douchebags website this week. Should that be noted (he obviously being the douchebag)?Ndriley97 (talk) 00:24, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Even if it was Rush Limbaugh, its not appropriate for Wikipedia. Ian.thomson (talk) 02:08, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Should it be added to the article that while filming the 5 lives of criss angel mindfreak that someone was injured, and rather seriously, while criss attempted the guillotine on hin. the video is on youtube, and here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB-H8LoHuN8. --JereMerr 04:42, 13 August 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeremerr (talk • contribs)

Considering that it was on Criss Angel's official youtube channel, I doubt it was real. He has a tendency to fake accidents and do publicity stunts. This looks like both. Ian.thomson (talk) 14:31, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Criss maintains contact with his uncle, Johnny Angel, in Pittsburgh, PA. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.75.142.3 (talk) 01:52, 22 November 2009 (UTC)