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NHS Sheffield pamphlet
Does anyone have a link to the actual pamphlet? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tisane (talk • contribs)
- This was originally added with a normal signature but it did not appear due to a glitch caused by an unclosed "gallery" tag. —Soap— 10:30, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry, Tisane, although the media coverage it generated is noted in this report of theirs, http://www.sheffield.nhs.uk doesn't seem to have a downloadable copy on it that I can find. --Nigelj (talk) 22:06, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
"Problems for males" section
"Also, in males, excessive masturbation may lead to impotence or weak erections" None of the sources for this ludicrous-sounding claim are in any way scholary. A Chinese Acupuncture book talking about the "gate of life"? A website selling "herbal-remedy's" for all health problems ever known to mankind? wtf? With such sources the sentence should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.185.201.66 (talk) 22:24, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
- I removed the last two sources, since they were clearly not medical authorities, but I would rather hold off for someone who has more than a Google Books snippet view to speak about the others. However, if no one shows up before long, they should be removed too (and with it the sentence they are being used to support). —Soap— 22:34, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
- None of those sources meet WP:RS for such extraordinary medical advice. If such research were to come to light in mainstream medicine, those are not the places we would find it published and discussed. The sentence and its sources were added by one user on 8 - 9 May this year, and I didn't notice them at the time. I've removed it. Thanks for the heads-up. --Nigelj (talk) 22:43, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
Wikification needed
It is stated in various places in this article that masturbation is viewed as an acceptable practice. I propose that these statements be changed to state that masturbation is accepted my many cultures, religions, and societies, though not all. As others have said, I feel this article seems to sell masturbation and advertise it as a healthy and acceptable practice that everyone should adopt. I don't suggest that the information promoting masturbation be removed. Rather, I advise that it be made clear throughout the article that this acceptance of masturbation is not unanimous. Information on the views of cultures unaccepting of masturbation is very brief and also needs to be made more thorough to help balence this out. WP is here to inform, not advertise popular beliefs. We need thorough amounts of creditable information to support all views on the subject. A lack of information implies that it doesn't exist, in this case, falsely.Sk8r dan man (talk) 09:09, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
- Do you have any WP:V verifiable WP:RS reliable sources that tell us exactly which cultures and societies regard masturbation as unhealthy? Have a look at those two links to see what kind of sources are useful and why. Also have a look at Religious views on masturbation (as linked from Masturbation#Religious views) as some of what you are looking for may be covered in more detail there, and just briefly summarised here, per WP:SIZE. --Nigelj (talk) 11:53, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
- To Sk8r, could you give examples of passages in which you feel that there is bias? Youre right that we shouldnt be inserting opinions, but Im not seeing any of that in the main text other than possibly the very short cultural attitudes section. —Soap— 10:01, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
Masturbation by either sex is strictly forbidden. Some men who masturbate lost their hand and forearm due to nerve damage, a neurological condition. That is why some people say they should have their right hand amputated because it looks grotesque. The damage is irreversable. Now for women the same condition can arise but it is much more rare since usually two women masturbate together. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.67.134.92 (talk) 13:33, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
- There's not a sentence of your reply which doesn't have a serious problem. Who strictly forbids masturbation? Can you give me details of these men whose nerves are damaged? Who is saying they should have their right hand amputated? What reason do you have for believing that women masturbate in pairs more often than alone? The Wednesday Island (talk) 17:11, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Dead links
many of the source-links are 404, please remove them --79.224.250.121 (talk) 21:28, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
images?
um, i think that showing images of a woman masturbating is technically porn. I mean, people who are getting off by going to wikipedia... signed by DrStrangelove64 —Preceding undated comment added 18:25, 22 July 2010 (UTC).
- We have a Porn section if it interests you. This is an encyclopedia of human knowledge. --mboverload@ 01:37, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
>Um Ok, so a woman masturbatins is porn but a man masturbating is not? Use your logic, gay men and women get off on naked images of men just like gay women and men get off on images of naked women. Besides to pull one and not the other is one sidedness. Both images or neither, and i would prefer both because it shows act which this article is about. Naked women and men are not porn until it is on a porn site. To refer to all images of naked women as porn is demeaning to the naked female form. Just as many kinds of porn can be demeaning. They should not show men and hide women, it implies their is something to be ashamed of. There is not anything to be ashamed of. -sixshooter500
Recent research
I'm surprised that there is no reference to the recent research by a team from Edinburgh University in collaboration with UCLA. I think the guy leading it as a Prof. Winkman or Winkelman (?). Aparently there is something behind the old wives tale that masturbation produces hair growth on the palms of hands - except it's not the palms it's the fore-arms. They studied 100 women who used their fingers to masturbate more than 5 times a week and found "above average" hair growth compared to two control groups - women who used vibrators and women who claimed not to masturbate. I think the hypothesis was that there was a connection between excessive short jerky movements of the hand and nearby follicle growth. someone should look into this. Valuarr (talk) 12:19, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
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