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`wikipedia.jp` and User:Tietew

The Japanese user is making references to the domain wikipedia.jp, so I made some research.

The Japanese Internet authority has its Whois service at http://whois.jprs.jp/en/ A query for the domain wikipedia.jp returns the following result:

Domain Information:
[Domain Name]                   WIKIPEDIA.JP
[Registrant]                    Tietew
[Name Server]                   ns1.tietew.jp
[Created on]                    2005/02/01
[Expires on]                    2011/02/28
[Status]                        Active
[Last Updated]                  2010/03/01 01:05:05 (JST)

All the contact information is invalid, so I will not repeat it here. (There is however a contact form available here.)

The domain tietew.jp contains a web page. More information is available at the About page:

Twitter: @Tietew
Wikimedias: see User:Tietew on meta

The Meta page makes the following statement: Tietew is a Japanese Wikipedian. A user box list his English skills as En-1. The page also lists a number of accounts:

The account User:Tietew on the English language Wikipedia was last active in May 2007.
Tietew (利用者:Tietew) is an administrator on the Japanese Wikipedia.

On the Japanese Wikipedia Tietew made his last edit on June 9, 2010 – to his appropriately named subpage ja:利用者:Tietew/activity. The subsection ドメイン contains the following additional information (as seen through Google Translate)

“

The following domains are owned by me, has kept at private expense.

wikipedia.jp
wikimedia.jp
wikinews.jp
wikimania.jp

Directly related to these domains and not the Wikimedia Foundation. No money changing hands.

”

I do see a potential for a real problem here. I do not think I need to go any deeper into this. At present wikipedia.jp redirects to the main page of the Japanese language version of Wikipedia. What would be the optimal solution is something like exists in France: The page wikipedia.fr is owned by Wikimédia France and serves as a portal to all Wikimedia projects.

Some additional trivia:

I did not come across any personal information on Tietew , His user page only contains a copy of the template WP:IFPROXY
Searching on the Japanese version of Google for "Wikipedia" does not return results for wikipedia.jp. This is most likely because Google dislikes redirects. The situation would change if the page had independent contents.

-- Petri Krohn (talk) 20:30, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I remove == from title. This topic has no relation to above. He is admin of ja.wikipedia who mainly active in blocking of open-proxies. That domain is taken in maybe 4 or 5 years ago (old domain). As far as I know, That domain is reserved for future use of local chapter of Japan in good faith. Local chapter has not yet realized in Japanese region. If that reservation is problematic for foundation and people of foundation or so contact him, he would talk and may reply about it. I want to say one thing. I feel prejudice about "Japanese Wikipedia". --Was a bee (talk) 07:50, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

His main work is similar to User:ProcseeBot, checking port and if it is open-proxy, then block it 6 months. You can confirm his admin log.

http://ja.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=Tietew

And his user page IS NOT the copy of WP:IFPROXY. WP:IFPROXY IS the copy of his user page. You can check it at history of that page(through google trans).

--Was a bee (talk) 09:35, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is a message to Jimbo. If you want to know this more deeply, I think it is good to ask it to User:aphaia. She know well about old days of Wikimedia project of Japanese region, and if I am not mistaken, she is one of the friend of Tietew. Also she can speak English nicely. --Was a bee (talk) 08:37, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I have already emailed her. I think there is no problem, Tietew is a known Wikipedian from a long time ago, and in many cases, community members registered domains for us to hold them away from spammers, etc. I'll also let the Wikimedia Foundation know what the situation is on this domain name once I get to the bottom of it. I really doubt there is any problem.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 09:07, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I think there is no problem. Those domains has been taken in good faith, and we once asked WMF if they wanted to get them transferred. At that time, we got a informal reply like "no, thank you, we'd rather be grateful for you a trusted Wikipedian to hold them in your own expense". That is why an individual Wikipedia user holds those domains. And Was a bee pointed out, there is no Wikimedia chapter in Japan yet. If asked by WMF or a future chapter, those domains would be transferred without trouble, I believe. --Aphaia (talk) 10:33, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There is no 利用者:Tietew in effective syaop. If syaop does not edit it in Japanese Wikipedia for three months, they are made to resign automatically (ja:Wikipedia:管理者の辞任#自動退任について).He is Tuesday, February 23, 2010 04:47 It was not done since（ja:Wikipedia:管理者の辞任#管理者の自動退任）. The resignation was confirmed.However, he does not give back sysop authority.--222.150.138.24 (talk) 11:18, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

His admin status has been confirmed in community by polling (ja:Wikipedia:管理者解任の投票/Tietew_20100602, through google trans). I want English speakers to know that how Japanese trolls anonymously spread distorted information about Japanese Wikipedia like this. Prejudices are come from there. If you have any doubts about Japanese Wikipedia, feel free to ask me, or post it to ja:Wikipedia:Help for Non-Japanese Speakers like Petri Krohn did, or visit irc.freenode.net#wikipedia-ja channel on IRC (Although I am not active on IRC). Many Japanese are not good at English, like me, but many would try to respond your questions sincerely. --Was a bee (talk) 12:09, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

利用者:Tietew problem divided into "Automatic resignation in regulations" sect and "Exception" sect, and an intense discussion was done. It is a vote forced so that "Exception" sect may confirm it. Therefore, "Automatic resignation in regulations" sect is not participating（ja:Wikipedia‐ノート:管理者の辞任#自動退任にしたらどうか・ja:Wikipedia‐ノート:管理者解任の投票/Tietew_20100602#異議申立）. It is not in the act of normality. No one has decided the confirmation of the authority（ja:Wikipedia‐ノート:管理者の辞任#Tietew氏の処遇について）. --山吹色の御菓子 (talk) 13:36, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not wanting to pay for the domain registration costs is a bad excuse for not transferring the domains to WMF. I can only imagine... (retracted because of WP:BEANS). Does WMF really want to put their faith in the good will of users? -- Petri Krohn (talk) 11:28, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't that exactly what our projects are? — Coren ^(talk) 13:41, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I should have said "good will of of one individual user?" -- Petri Krohn (talk) 16:52, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Quite a selection of wikipedia. whatever are held by somewhat random individuals. Only recently have we started to adress this.©Geni 17:23, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I want to hear it from Aphaia. With whom of Wikimedia Foundation did you speak?Can the content be clarified?The act is good intentions, and I feel that their act will contribute to Wikipedia in the future.However, the danger that it will be resold by owner's bankruptcy and others the way things are going cannot be prevented. --山吹色の御菓子 (talk) 12:24, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Can ja:Wikipedia:Info-ja（info-ja＠wikipedia.jp） that uses the domain of "wikipedia.jp" provisionally use continuance?　Wikipedia:Info-ja is a representative organization of Japanese Wikipedia.　It negotiates handling complaints.　Isn't there problem though 利用者:miya is receiving the E-mail?--山吹色の御菓子 (talk) 05:02, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The page seems to be some kind of contact page for the Japanese Wikipedia. I checked the Finnish language "Press contacts" page here: fi:Wikipedia:Lehdistölle. It lists an email address: info-fi@wikimedia.org for user help. There is also the name and private email address for press contacts. I guess there should be something like info-ja@wikimedia.org for Japanese language queries. The Japanese page ja:Wikipedia:Info-ja only lists info-ja@wikimedia.jp. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 13:57, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This really is a matter for the Japanese Wikipedia community, not an editor on the English Wikipedia. I suggest it be left to them to handle this. 62.25.109.195 (talk) 16:17, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That suggestion has been made many times, but this user comes back with this same complaint every few weeks/months now. Tarc (talk) 18:57, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have posted a question at ja:Wikipedia:Help for Non-Japanese Speakers#wikipedia.jp and User:Tietew. Jimbo's talk page is not the place to solve this, but at least we should be able to decide where to move this discussion. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 19:27, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It has negotiated on Wikipedia:Info-ja as Wikipedia representative organization. It is a problem of IOND University（Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/IOND_University）.It changed to the content that it had demanded by protesting against IOND Universityja:ノート:イオンド大学・ja:ノート:平和神軍観察会事件/メール200704. It was said that it sued wikipedia if not corresponding according to the demandja:Wikipedia:削除依頼/イオンド大学 20070329/メール. A disadvantageous content for IOND_University was deleted.The page protected in Mikegodwin instruction[1]・[2]ja:ノート:グロービートジャパン対平和神軍観察会事件#Info-ja対応について, and was deleted.The content will do the propaganda to a specific other party.Jimbo and Mike godwin transferred, and approved the disposal authority to the member of Info-ja.Afterwards, Mike godwin had retired temporarily. Is Jimbo permitted until the future though it is effective up to the present time?--山吹色の御菓子 (talk) 00:38, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This remark contradicts what Aphaia explained[3]--山吹色の御菓子 (talk) 00:56, 9 September 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Removal of a website from the external links section

Hi Jimbo,

This is Sigi. Please could you explain me the process how to get a page listed again in the external link section without removal. Our page - which is quite serious - is now removed after an entry.

Thank you in advance for your help! Sigi

You can reach me at sluger@vol.at —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.82.232.82 (talk) 07:08, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You should probably review our external links guidelines. The link was removed because it was inappropriate, and I don't really see it adding to the articles, so there would really be no way around that. Also, you may wish to review the guidelines on conflict of interest—your use of "we" makes it seem you have a connection with this company, which generally means you shouldn't be inserting links for them anyway. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 07:14, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]