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Plagarism?

This article is all over the Internet, usually in a shortened form, at music sites and encyclopedia tyes of sites. How do we know who's ripping off whom? I looked into this because I was suspicious of the closing statment, "Contrast with sixth chord". That doesn't feel Wikipedian, it seems like something out of a textbook. It also sucks. Tell us why, don't just order us to go do it. This isn't Wikiversity. --63.25.105.14 (talk) 21:49, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Requested audio

I have added some audio examples. Hyacinth (talk) 09:16, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Suspended from where?

Fundamentally, this page is wrong: a suspended chord needs to be suspended from somewhere. Just stating "However, in modern usage, the term concerns only the notes played at a given time; in a suspended chord the added tone does not necessarily resolve, and is not necessarily "prepared" (i.e., held over) from the prior chord." doesn't necessarily make it so: it simply defines a x4th chord. (example- a C4th chord)

A suspended chord, by its definition, implies a suspension; i.e. the retained note is suspended from something. It doesn't just magically happen by itself.

Joe Gerardi (talk) 22:15, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That would be logical, but terms are not always used according to their origin. Hyacinth (talk) 08:40, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, the term was originally used that way but now refers to chords where there is usually no preparation and not always a resolution though both are implied. This latter fact probably ought to be mentioned since it distinguishes sus chords from add2 and add4 chords. --Jubilee♫clipman 23:32, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jazz chord example

Is this correct? I don't know much about Jazz chord terminology (beyond the fact they usually ignore 7ths), but as far as I can can tell the first chord is actually G7sus2sus4, ie it has both "sus" notes but not the 3rd. Gsus (ie G7sus4) would surely be G-C-D-F? --Jubilee♫clipman 23:33, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The cited source says its correct. Hyacinth (talk) 13:22, 22 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your cited source can say it is correct a myriad times but nevertheless it is incorrect. The first chord in the picture is from bottom to top G-A-C-F which can be seen as F/G if you consider F to be the root note, or a G7sus2/4 (albeit omiting the 3rd and 5th) if you consider G to be the root note.

Anyway, Gsus4 would comprise of G-C-D and G7sus4 of G-C-D-F, I am not quite sure what you mean by saying that Jazz ingnores the 7ths though. As far as I can tell 7ths are like oxygen for Jazz musicians.

bad example in the right-hand box

Hi all, The so-called "suspended chord" in the example box is not a suspension at all. It's what would either be called a subdominant over a dominant (IV/V) or dominant 11 (V11) - according to the way the chord is laid out and resolved, it would act as a dominant chord in both pop and classical styles. I can imagine how confusing this might be for a beginning theorist to look at. I'll try to change it ASAP with a better example, but if anybody comes up with something first this problem should be solved quickly! I also agree with some of the commentary on here - the music theory articles on wikipedia are in need of serious, organic improvement. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.143.108.27 (talk) 13:04, 22 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Did you notice that the image is cited as is its explanation in the article? Hyacinth (talk) 13:21, 22 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

sus2/4

Thoughts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.85.216.120 (talk) 02:18, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mean a suspended chord with both the second and the fourth? Hyacinth (talk) 14:35, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

although the fourth is far more common?

I think that needs to be taken out. Did somebody go through every song ever composed and count sus4 vs sus2. Seems silly--Brian Earl Haines (talk) 22:48, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"which can suggest a minor or a major tonality."

The last sentence in the lead used to read, "The lack of a minor or a major third in the chord creates an open sound, which can suggest a minor or a major tonality." This is wrong. The lack of a third suggests nothing. So I removed the clause. A missing third can't suggest a minor or major tonality because the third is what defines a minor or major tonality. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.101.187.191 (talk) 20:34, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]