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Integrity Watch Afghanistan

Dear JohnCD,

Thank you for having unblocked the Integrity Watch Afghanistan account and put the edited version live. I have taken over the account and put a request to change the username. The point that JamesBWwatson made about promoting the organisation - well as the current version stands, it only talks about the organisation but one of the main reasons why this page was created was to increase people awareness about the methodology of local based monitoring in post conflict countries and how this can empower citizens and include them in good governance.... this bit was originally there but taken away by help desk....do you think there is anyway to add a section about the methodology? Would I be able to add it myself or do I need a neutral party to review it?

Thank you very much for all your help!!! Kind regards, Karolina —Preceding unsigned comment added by Integrity Watch Afghanistan (talkcontribs) 10:30, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I will reply to your new talk page, but it will be a day or maybe two. JohnCD (talk) 21:48, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lauren Boquette Page

I was curious why the Lauren Boquette page was deleted?

Can you please give me more information on how to finalize the details of the page and make it stay on Wikipedia.com. I am a recording artist which is already linked to some pages already. (For example; Alfunction, Six, Argyle Park and more).

Thank you!

Lauren1605 (talk) 05:51, 5 November 2010 (UTC) Lauren Boquette[reply]

Page restored as a contested PROD; explanation and advice on your user talk page soon. JohnCD (talk) 21:52, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Eyeless (band)" page

Why did you delete the "eyeless (band)" page? Is not that "Wiki Vandalism?" It appears many parties put hard work into compiling all of that information from them onto that page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RobVanWinkle (talkcontribs) 22:32, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't, actually; what I deleted was a redirect from "Eyeless" to "Eyeless (band)", which had already been deleted three times by different administrators, for the same reason: it didn't show that the band (yet) meets Wikipedia's inclusion criteria, which are explained at WP:BAND. I'm sorry if people put a lot of work into it, but if they read WP:Your first article and WP:Notability (music) it will help them avoid wasting effort another time. JohnCD (talk) 22:47, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You deleted my Wiki Page

Dear JohnCD,

I am just asking why you flagged my wiki page to be taken down and deleted. I am doing this page for a class project that is due on Wednesday and when I went to put up the finishing touches on it with pictures and references, just now, your name popped up with a note saying you have deleted all of my hard work. It took me hours to do this page and I do not appreciate what you have down. I do not believe I will have enough time to complete my project thanks to you.

GradStudent407 —Preceding unsigned comment added by GradStudent407 (talkcontribs) 23:19, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a web host for class projects. What you wrote was blatantly promotional in tone; Wikipedia does not allow advertisements even in user space. Advice on your talk page soon. JohnCD (talk) 11:20, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It might be time to review the Bitcoin article deletion

Hi JohnCD,

I think it may be time to consider undeleting the Bitcoin article.

The bitcoin economy has grown to over a million dollars, and the number of businesses using it has continued to grow. Indeed, the Electronic Frontier Foundation accepts Bitcoin donations - how ironic that the EFF uses a currency that is not able to be explained by a Wikipedia article.

Is there a way by which we can formally reopen the discussion about the Bitcoin article?

Eiffel (talk) 14:55, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The right forum to request re-introduction of Bitcoin to the main encyclopedia is WP:Deletion review, where it has already been twice, on August 4 and September 26. There is a draft article for improvement at User:Message From Xenu/Bitcoin, and that is what should be presented for consideration, but nobody seems to have done much to it since the last deletion review. Read the DRVs first, particularly Robert Horning's comment half way down the Sept 26 one; you'll see that what is missing is the "substantial coverage in reliable independent sources" needed to establish notability. No references seem to have been added to the draft article since the last DRV; your EFF link is something, but I doubt if it is enough.
There has been some concern over the number of single-purpose accounts which seem to have been created only to push Bitcoin: but I see from your user page that you are the author of the oldest surviving Wikipedia edit, so you are, almost literally, the last person who could be accused of that!
Regards, JohnCD (talk) 18:22, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your detailed response. I'll see what new references have become available since the previous review.
Regards, Eiffel (talk) 23:05, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

A cookie by way of thanks for the prompt action on my requested deletion.ElijahBosley (talk ☞) 20:28, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please undelete this article? We have received OTRS permission for it which I can add as soon as it is restored and I'll be sure to let them know that they need to promptly address the promotional and notability aspects or it is likely to be deleted again. VernoWhitney (talk) 22:37, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! VernoWhitney (talk) 22:50, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It's awful, though: "that enigmatic, rare artist who comes along every once in a while, with uniqueness that simply radiates... " It'll need to be completely rewritten. That's a problem with copyvio tags, they think that's the only problem; but I did warn the author that even if the copyright were fixed the promotional tone tone would be unsuitable. JohnCD (talk) 22:59, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I personally try to use {{db-multiple}} in cases where it's clearly a problem like that, and if they don't clean it up fairly quickly I may very well put it up for deletion myself. VernoWhitney (talk) 23:02, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You can see at the bottom of User talk:Dee2u2 the boiler-plate section I usually add to the bottom of copyvio notices. I'm not sure it wouldn't be a good idea to build something like that into the standard notice. JohnCD (talk) 23:07, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I saw that and it looks decent. Of course if the article's hopeless and A7/G11 apply too and are mentioned in the deletion log then they can learn that way that there's more than just permissions that need resolving. Maybe there just needs to be a push for {{Db-notice-multiple}} to include details about all of the multiple reasons an article's been tagged for speedy. VernoWhitney (talk) 23:38, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Good idea. I don't like db-multiple precisely because the notice for the author doesn't explain the reasons - it says, "look at the page or if it has gone ask me... " but that's not really good enough. I see someone else has zapped our enigmatic, rare artist. JohnCD (talk) 11:45, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted Page Request - T. Markus Funk

Hi. I am trying to get a page put together on T. Markus Funk in anticipation of Chicago ABC 7 Reporter Chuck Goudie's profile of Funk this evening at 10:00 p.m. Apparently some other page on Funk was removed on a prior occasion, and it appears that my contribution was also shut down/deleted. Could you please consider un-deleting my contribution? Thanks, Peterjones1234 (talk) 18:25, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There is already a page at T. Markus Funk and you are welcome to chip in there. It's not a very good one - have a look at WP:Your first article and WP:Writing better articles to get an idea of what article structure should look like. Also, and first of all since I see you are editing other articles about living persons, read the extremely important policy on WP:Biographies of living persons.
You mention deleted contributions, but I see none from this account. Do you have more than one account? If so, choose one and stick to it, to avoid suspicions of WP:Sockpuppetry. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 18:35, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the quick response, John. I tried following your advice about modifying/editing/supplementing the entry, but was unable to save my changes, receiving the below deletion information (which is why I contacted you and mentioned that it appeared the entry had been deleted). Any advice you can give would be much appreciated.

11:15, 23 March 2010 Graeme Bartlett (talk | contribs) deleted "T. Markus Funk" ‎ (A7: Article about a real person, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject)

20:11, 21 March 2010 JohnCD (talk | contribs) deleted "T. Markus Funk" ‎ (G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion) Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log/delete"

Yours, Peterjones1234 (talk) 20:57, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Are you also Columbia1234 (talk · contribs)? I repeat my warning about using only one account.
Of those two deleted versions, the second said only "T. Markus Funk is a Lecturer in Law at the University of Chicago School of Law and a federal prosecutor in Chicago." You could usefully base on that a somewhat extended lead paragraph for the new article.
The earlier one that I deleted was not a biographical article: it was a bookseller's advertisement, giving brief "product details" of Funk's book like ISBN and number of pages, and then a string of reviews. That is not at all appropriate for an encyclopedia and I am not going to restore it. If you need a copy of the text, I will restore it into a user-page for an hour so that you can copy it.
If you want to help develop an article on Funk, edit the new one - it needs it. I see that another editor has added a string of "maintenance templates" which indicate necessary work, with the edit summary "a mess, but under the junk may be a notable person". You could help dig out that notable person. Don't worry about offending the first author - it is a principle here that nobody owns any article, see WP:OWN.
Regards, JohnCD (talk) 21:23, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, John. I will take a look at the new article and see what I can do (on a limited schedule). Don't know anything about Columbia1234 or a prior entry discussing ISBN numbers, etc. BTW, how do I make sure I am editing the "new" version, rather than the deleted one? I though I was working on the new version when I saw the various notes indicating the deficiencies in what was already written, but when I tried to save changes I received the notice that the version I was working on had been deleted in the interim between when I typed in the changes/edits and when I hit "Save Page." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Peterjones1234 (talkcontribs) 21:40, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For clarity, the precise message I get is: "Warning: An administrator deleted this page since you started editing it. Please check the deletion log to see the reasoning." The deletion log, in turn, lists deletions from March 2010.....

Peterjones1234 (talk) 21:51, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm baffled, I don't know how that could happen. What you have described is what would happen if an article was deleted while you were editing it, but there has been no version (at least under this exact name) since March, until this one was created at 23:47 yesterday, and it has not been deleted. Don't worry about editing a deleted version - you can't. Click on the blue-link T. Markus Funk, that will get you the current article, then click "Edit" at the top, and away you go. The worst that might happen is an "edit conflict" if someone else edits between the time you open it and and the time you press "Save page", but then you just mutter under your breath and try again. JohnCD (talk) 21:58, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dear John,

The page should not be deleted, as the book meets all the criterion of wikipedia. It is not a self-published book, but published by India's leading publisher. It has already sold thousands of copies. It is one of the most enjoyable book published in recent times. Check it out from India's largest online bookstore www.flipkart.com. Just type Jab se in the SEARCH field.

ISBN:9789380349152

Regards, Deep Kishore —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deepkishorewiki (talkcontribs) 12:28, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is not enough to have been published and to be enjoyable. Many thousands of books are published, and Wikipedia does not expect to have articles about them all. The inclusion criteria are explained at WP:BK#Criteria. The place for you to comment is the deletion debate at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jab se you have loved me. JohnCD (talk) 12:45, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Petition - please unblock our account

Dear Sir/Madam, I have been trying to correct outdated information on the Wikipedia page about the company that I work for (Elsevier). To that end, I created a username that transparently reflects our intentions of providing more up-to-date, accurate information for all Wikipedia readers. However, a few minutes after editing the first paragraph, I got blocked. I asked for the reason behind this decision, but apparently I am also blocked from the “talk” page. As part of Elsevier’s Corporate Relations team, my intention is simply to complete information, update numbers (which have not been revised since 2006), and add updated information about our business. I hope you can clarify why we do not have the possibility to update the Wikipedia page of our own company while others, who may not always have the correct information to their disposal, apparently can. I trust you share our aim to provide the public with quality, up-to-date information. (Our username was Elseviercorprelations - I am using this account because the other one does not allow me to appeal at this discussion board). We sincerely hope you will reconsider your decision of blocking us. Best,

Ruth Cespedes Press Officer - Elsevier —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ruthc83 (talkcontribs) 14:40, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There are two issues here. Wikipedia accounts must be for individuals only, who are personally responsible for them, so account names which are, or seem to be, those of organizations are not allowed. Your Elseviercorprelations account will therefore not be unblocked; you could request a change of username, but as it has made only one edit it will be simpler just to abandon it and continue using your new account. Factual edits of the type you describe are welcome, but under the strict conditions imposed on editors with a conflict of interest. More advice on your new talk page soon. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 16:32, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Uforia For The Masses

John give me feedback as to how I can add "Uforia For The Masses" without being deleted. I dont understand according to regulations why this company keeps getting deleted. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jettti (talkcontribs) 19:06, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ken Block - Moderate Party of RI, etc, etc

Hi John -

My Wiki page was deleted by you due to copyright issues. The info from my web page is perfectly OK to be used for my Wiki page.

How do I go about resurrecting this wiki page?

98.182.55.46 (talk) 22:47, 12 November 2010 (UTC)Ken Block[reply]

Ken Block again....

...I realized I did not leave you a way to contact me...kblock@moderate-ri.org —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.182.55.46 (talk) 22:48, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Userbox help

What in the world does this mean?
{{Userbox | border-c = #999 | border-s = 1 | id-c = red | id-s = 14 | id-fc = black | info-c = #EEE | info-s = 8 | info-fc = black | id = UBX | info = This is a '''[[WP:UBX|Userbox]]'''. | float = left }}
The things I am confused with: border-c, border-s, id-c, id-s, id-fc, info-c, info-s, info-fc, id, info, float. Not sure what those acronyms mean. Also, why is there only three symbols in the hex numbers? (eg. #EEE)? ThanksRomeEonBmbo (talk) 23:07, 13 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's explained at Wikipedia:Userboxes#Constructing a userbox. The colour symbols are three bytes to give values from 0 to 255 in each of R, G, B - see Web colors. JohnCD (talk) 20:02, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I've figured it out. :D RomeEonBmbo (talk) 20:04, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind

Hi! The problem I have is that the User Name as well as the article are a blanketed threat towards another Editor. Is there any way to speak with someone privately in order to explain why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Get lost in Boston (talkcontribs) 18:43, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You can send me an email if you like - click "Email this user" on the left of this talk page. You may have to click the heading "Toolbox" to expand it. But I much prefer to do things openly on-wiki; I doubt if I shall be willing to take any action on the basis of something which can only be said privately, but you can tell me and see. JohnCD (talk) 18:53, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Never mind. I have decided I will handle this matter differently. It would be one thing if I were "just imagining" things but I have concrete proof about my situation. I'm confident it will be handled appropriately. It should remain private. Thanks. Get lost in Boston (talk) 21:07, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Good. Best wishes. JohnCD (talk) 21:32, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You dont understand

You deleted my page for uncleverable on the grounds that it was a personal attack on someone. Uncleverable actually means intelligent and i dont believe this is an insult. You should think before you do things— Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaz4157 (talkcontribs) 21:19, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As "uncleverable" isn't in any dictionary, I have no way to know what it's supposed to mean, but our policy on Biographies of living persons is that: "Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced—whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable—should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion". JohnCD (talk) 21:32, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

My Mistake

Sorry bout that John. Millahnna (talk) 21:39, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not at all, don't apologise, someone who leaves an illegible message like that doesn't deserve an answer; but I was intrigued enough to go and look the word up and thought I might as well reply. JohnCD (talk) 21:44, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Your "fan club"

They never fail to crack me up. I don't remember why I started watching your page to begin with but it sure has turned out to be amusing in a warped way in hindsight.Millahnna (talk) 20:05, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Had you noticed that my current most enthusiastic fan is in Brazil? He could actually be cut off by a couple of quite small range-blocks, 2048 and 4096 IPs, but as long as you're happy to go on clearing up after him it's not worth it. Cheers, JohnCD (talk) 21:11, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Belen Echandia

Hi John,

Do you know if this page has really been opened up for deletion again for the third time this week? I can't see a new AFD but the "settled" section of text appears to have been removed. Thanks in advance. findingtruths (talk) 23.05, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

No, this is the same (second) debate continuing. These debates normally run for seven days; this one was closed early by a non-administrator, which is permitted only in absolutely non-controversial cases, such as if the nominator withdraws and nobody has expressed a delete opinion. A "non-admin closure" can be reversed by any administrator; this one was improper because there were some delete !votes (we call them !votes, the ! in front is a negation, "not-vote," to emphasise that debates are decided on the arguments not on a count of heads), so an administrator reversed it and the debate continues. JohnCD (talk) 10:22, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I see! I hadn't realised that a non-admin had closed it. findingtruths (talk) 10:56, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Anika Invada

Why did you delete that article, man?!? Was Wikipedias harddrive full again? Well, I'm glad there's Google cache. Obviously they don't have problems with disk space like Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.193.186.236 (talk) 22:16, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:MUSICBIO for what a musical performer needs to have achieved before having a Wikipedia article. JohnCD (talk) 13:56, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

AUTHOR REVISED PAGE

Please see newly created page for author Anuska Wirasinha and give feedback. We have tried to conact Shimeru for feedback and to relist the newly completely revised update but has not heard anything for months. Muthu

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Muthuwella/Anushka_Wirasinha —Preceding unsigned comment added by Muthuwella (talkcontribs) 00:44, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I will look at it again, but it will be a few days before I have time to read it all. JohnCD (talk) 13:57, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Petra Airlines -- a new chance?

Hi John, I'm planning to write an article about Petra Airlines, but have just noticed that a previous attempt was speedy deleted, because notability could not be established. Well, I do think that this company is notable, though. It is a start-up airline, so there aren't all-too many reliable sources to be found. But those that are there ([1], [2], [3], [4], [5] just to name some), are IMO enough to provide the significant coverage in reliable third-party media, which would be enough to pass the WP:CORP notability guideline. I'm starting editing on the article in my userspace, and would be glad if you could have a look at it before it may be copied into main space. Per aspera ad Astra (talk) 13:43, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The entire text of the article I deleted was "start with 3 ex gulf air a320 in 2011?" You should be able to do better than that, but I am not really convinced by the sources you link - no.1 is a blog, nos. 2, 4 and 5 look as if they are all regurgitating the same press release. You're doing the right thing by starting in your user space - I suggest you do the best you can and then post a request at WP:Requests for feedback to see what others think. Don't give up, I'm sure it will become notable, but you may have to wait until the airline is (literally) off the ground before there is enough substantial, independent comment to satisfy WP:CORP. You could probably get help and advice at Wikipedia:WikiProject Airlines. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 13:58, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your input. I completed the draft for the article, and placed the matter here and here. Per aspera ad Astra (talk) 14:53, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

About subpage in spanish

I want for that you erase that subpage, now I were reading Template:Db. I create it by error, I thought that was es.wikipedia. Pablo López We fly together 15:25, 17 November 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lopezpablo 87 (talkcontribs) [reply]

 Done. JohnCD (talk) 15:32, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, you excuse them annoyances. And the error in the signature is by copy-paste. Pablo López We fly together 15:39, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No problem. JohnCD (talk) 15:43, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You have new messages

Hello, JohnCD. You have new messages at Barts1a's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

redirect on Youvan's Apologetics

John, thanks for the help on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Youvan#Christian_Apologetics. Unfortunately, certain keyword searches on Google go to the deleted page and one is left hanging. Is there a way to make that redirect transparently move to the "Christian Apologetics" subsection on Douglas Youvan rather than to the deleted article? Bridgetttttttebabblepoop 22:47, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]