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Qatar Airways Cargo[edit]

Someone created a seperate article for it unecessarily, can it be deleted? Mustangmanxxx (talk) 19:34, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

A redirect is more appropriate.--Jetstreamer Talk 23:22, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

List of airline flights that required gliding[edit]

Listed for AfD deletion discussion. — Cheers, Steelpillow — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 17:35, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Wataniya Airways[edit]

Previous information of airline is continuously deleted by some one, even if its referenced. (talk) 22:37, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Edit war starting at destinations section. (talk) 01:49, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
This seems to be an edit war between (talk · contribs) and CBG17 (talk · contribs). I am not sure of the rights and wrongs of their positions but CBG17 deleted the above, which does not bode well for them, and I had to restore it. Any help in restoring calm would be gratefully received. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 14:23, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
I have protected both articles for a couple of weeks to encourage users to come to some consensus on the changes required, thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 17:13, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
What happened? I requested historic route information be retained, instead, it's been reverted to only new routes in old text style list, is there really even a need for a destinations page in this case? if you think this is a new airline that doesn't warrant retaining past information, then start a new article for it like varous other restarts using defunct carriers names with different IATA and ICAO codes. I do not need consensus, as I set it per Wikipedia standards. (talk) 02:58, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
Specifics of the article content should be discussed at Talk:Wataniya Airways and not here. I will be watching, and I hope some others of us will put it on their watchlists too. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 08:42, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Round 2[edit]

The edit war is beginning again, currently over whether the list of destinations should use wiki list or table format. Does this Project have any guideline for the list format? — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 10:17, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

Tigerair destinations[edit]

Artclie redirects to merged Scoot destinations list instead of TR previous own list, is it ok or sould TR list be restored?. (talk)

Project standards?[edit]

Can someone clarify why there are standards and consensuses to approve them? some years back a simplified table format was decided upon for destinations, yet people are creating new destination articles with old text style list and saying it's still allowed, if it's so, then why the consensus and upgrade to table style list?

btw so far only one person dared to create old text list at Wataniya airways and interestingly my attempts to update it to new wiki standard table list is being reverted repeatedly with project admin support and old textd look is being allowed to stay and we edit warriors are being told to hold consensus on it amongst ourselves while admin deliberate over it, sounds kinda like a joke, deliberate over what? hold consensus on what? its a simple matter of either keeping new style list or old text style, nothing else.

initially edit warrior kept removing former routes but now has relented to include them but in old text list format looking exactly like current route, it was also decided by consensus is text style list days that terminated routes would only be listed by country name in bold non-wikilinked style and city name next to it in regular text but wiki-linked, no airport information or wikilink to be included, so again consensus format being flouted.

anotjer question is why was he allowed to create a separate destinations article listing only 3-4 routes when these could have been easily accommodated in main airline article? be it in old text style list or even table format, ofcourse i would keep putting in the former routes while he kept tossing them out, so flouted another standard again, with project admin support who allowed edit warrior to keep reverting my project standard edits and maintain his ex-standard article, as mentioned initially he kept removing former routes i.e historic data and information which was included with reference per wiki project standard. (talk) 04:47, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

How can you complain about using text style list when you yourself changed a table to a text style list on Swaziland Airlink [1] so why are you trying to act like you are the innocent one if you are doing exactly the same thing on another page. Also you haven't even messaged me about this to try and resolve it, you're just bringing in other users who quite frankly do not care about the situation which is why no conclusion has been made. So if you want to try and resolve it try actually talking to me instead of others who aren't even involved. CBG17 (talk) 12:24, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
Uninvolved editor's comment: Please do not resort to personal attacks. Also, asking for somebody else's opinion (when clearly the dispute does not seem to be moving forward) can't be classified as a bad idea. (talk) 17:33, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
It is a bad idea if they haven't even acknowledged the person they are having the miss understanding with and tried to resolve it between the two of us but they haven't they have involved other people when it could have been settled between the two of us if they had written a comment on my talk page about the situation CBG17 (talk) 23:03, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
Incase you are not aware there is no rule for listing a handful of destinations on main article page, it can be text or table, and WOW! tracking m edits in other articles, i don't follow yours so stay away from mine. (talk) 11:44, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
Creating a new article for destinations in text style list is not allowed, posting a table format list in main article for less than five destinations is nonsensical. (talk) 11:53, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Why am I not allowed to see what you're editing there is nothing against this so what is the problem if i want to look at them i will. I only check them to see what rubbish you're saying about me on various pages that don't need to be said. Where does it say that a text style list in a new article is not allowed give me some evidence instead of picking stuff out the air to show thag you are right in this situation. CBG17 (talk) 2:25, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

@ It is perfectly OK to track another editor's contributions, for example if you are concerned about their quality. What is not OK is to stalk them and meddle in their editing just to harass them. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 16:48, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
I am not stalking or meddling I'm not a weirdo why would i possibly want to stalk someone or here.CBG17 (talk) 13:59, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
I am not aware that you are, I was merely clarifying Wikipedia's position with respect to the IP editor's comment. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 14:15, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
He stalkd my IP and therefore my edit at Arlink Swaziland, not me stalking him read caefully before you post. (talk) 13:56, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
That's plain silly. I presume you are referring to this edit of his at Airlink Swaziland, in which he trivially tidied your edit. That is perfectly normal if one is concerned about another editor's behaviour, it is baked into Wikipedia for very good reason. And don't tell me to be careful, that's even sillier coming from an IP editor who makes unsubstantiated accusations of stalking. If you can't be sensible I am not going to be able to help you. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 14:20, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

It appears that believes that the consensus for destination tables was to use the simple table format, but clearly WP:ALD has never been changed and allows both formats. I protected the Wataniya Airways destinations article to stop edit warring between the list and table formats. If both are allowed by WP:ALD then it should be up to a talk page consensus as to which is suitable. If 139 is not happy then perhaps we should discuss and see if there is support for changing to just one recommended format. Anybody have any thoughts on this, thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 16:43, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

It is ridiculous to have multiple layouts for destination list, initially there was just a single one, text version, there was no need for any kind of table, but now instead of one there are three or four options for table, including collapsible in main airline article. it can handle so many destinations that separate destination articles should have become redundant, there should be a single format for destinations, either collapsible table in the main airline article, OR text OR table in separate destinations article, please standardise. (talk) 13:56, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
text list continent wise is causing the same problem for Turkey, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Armenia as before, some want to list he Islamic ones in Asia the other two in Europe, table format has no such issues.. (talk) 14:06, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
We dont have to use continents in the text list format so not really an issue. MilborneOne (talk) 15:18, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
Perhaps you have a suggestion on which format that can be discussed and a new consensus agreed as that is the only way to change the current guide. MilborneOne (talk) 15:18, 17 August 2017 (UTC)