Talk:Caprica

Reception: Bias?

Reaction to Pilot is quite one-sided. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.214.182.165 (talk) 06:11, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

The meaning of this comment is quite unclear. David Spector 04:40, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Agreed, the reception section looks like it was compiled by a fan rather than an unbiased source. --76.169.78.52 (talk) 08:40, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Agree - lots of comment on how rubbish this series is turning out. All of those reviews seem to be of the pilot only. Many reviews into the series have been heavily critical of the series.121.209.148.37 (talk) 05:32, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

I removed the tag somebody put up. I don't see what the problem is because everything there is properly cited. If it has been given bad reviews, then find the cites and add them. Otherwise you're just complaining for no purpose. If it's broke -fix it!

One big problem, which makes the the Reception section read like advertisement copy, is that it primarily contains cherry-picked qualitative reviews, whereas it should, like most TV articles, make some mention of viewership and ratings. Furthermore, nearly all the cited reviews, for this and practically any other new TV show, references only the pilot material. Since the pilot was essentially a TV-movie event and, in good and bad ways, quite different from new episodes, this information doesn't do much to tell the reader how well the show is presently and even recently being received. 67.185.29.175 (talk) 10:07, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Clarice Willow

At what point does it say Clarice is the headmistress of the school? From watching it I figured that she was a counselor. -mattbuck (Talk) 08:23, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Brian Markinson

Brian Markinson is also billed as a regular after the pilot, even if he doesn't appear much and it hasn't been discussed as much as Sam (because of how minor Durham is). --71.150.248.191 (talk) 17:37, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Main cast?

I'm surprised to see that Zoe is not listed as a member of the main cast, as she is the crux that the show centers around. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.191.44.193 (talk) 00:42, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Criticism NPOV - Mike Hale

New York Times' Mike Hale describes Caprica as "a talky futuristic soap opera" that "[d]espite swooning reviews and obsessive fans" remains an utterly "ordinary show." Amongst other instances of logical inconsistencies and poor writing, Hale observes that "in a world in which we have perfected space travel and settled on other planets, big swaths of our new home look like present-day Vancouver." The show boils down to "hazy philosophizing" reminiscent of an undergraduate philosophy paper and "hasn’t yet developed enough humor or authentic domestic drama" to garner the attention of intelligent television viewers.

Having read that review, most claims are just straight-up wrong:

• Hale doesn't describe Caprica as a talky futuristic soap opera, he states that it presents the potentiality of becoming a talky futuristic soap opera.
• Hale refers to Caprica being a more ordinary show as compared to Battlestar Galactica due to the less fantastical setting (also the word utterly is misplaced and possibly NPOV).
• There is no mention of poor writing and logical inconsistencies (apart from the criticism of the strangeness of housing looking similar to Vancouver homes). As a matter of fact, Hale seems to commend Caprica for its well-rounded nature:

"The moral turpitude is represented by a welter of references to current times: absorption in virtual realities (i.e., the Internet), an overemphasis on sports, sensationalist television pundits. Racism and the struggles of immigrants are evoked in the lesser status of the Taurons (depicted using Italian and Eastern European organized-crime clichés). A memorial service for victims of the bombing looks just like the 9/11 memorials at ground zero. All this high-minded stage setting could produce an intriguing drama of ideas or a talky futuristic soap opera. The goal, presumably, is to achieve both"

• The article mentions nothing of undergraduate philosophy papers. This is a pretty bad hyperbole.
• The article mentions nothing of the intelligence of the show's viewers. It's unencyclopedic to call people that enjoy watching Caprica unintelligent (without a source, at the very least).

Someone fix it please.72.211.192.245 (talk) 03:31, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Fixed. I reworked it with quotes from the review and removed the flagrant violations of NPOV. DarthTaper (talk) 01:21, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Cancelled vs. On Hiatus

I don't want to get in some big edit war about this. It seems obvious to me that the status of the show is "Cancelled", notwithstanding the fact that some remaining episodes may be aired in the future. "On hiatus" is misleading, because it implies the show may resume production when SyFy has said explicitly that it won't. Clconway (talk) 16:43, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

"On hiatus" does not imply anything regarding production of the show. There are still five episodes left to broadcast, and they have been pushed back until 2011. So, while production has ben cancelled, broadcasting is on hiatus. — Edokter • Talk • 17:23, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

I looked and I didn't find any guidance about what Wikipedia:WikiProject Television considers "cancelled" vs. "on hiatus". I would not that the final five episodes will be available on DVD December 21, 2010, so that fact that SyFy might broadcast them in 2011 is barely even relevant. Clconway (talk) 20:40, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

I believe "cancelled" would be more appropriate. Broadcasting schedules are many and varied, the production is what is important here. I'm sure the network reserves the right to change their mind re: cancellation, but for now we should take their word for it. The Interior(Talk) 20:45, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

The show is canceled but the current status is on hiatus, they have confirmed that 5 episodes will be aired, just like we don't add a premier date in the infobox until the premiere happened, or don't put the finale date but "present" until that date. It should say what the show is currently on, which is a hiatus, it should say canceled after the five episodes have broadcasted. _Xeworlebi ^(talk) 20:53, 30 October 2010 (UTC)