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B92* Prosecutor: One of KLA victims identified —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.82.247.17 (talk) 21:27, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

More Evidence —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.32.82.250 (talk) 20:25, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

An ethnic Albanian witness of KLA torture camps —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.217.193.209 (talk) 01:12, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

more —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.32.37.172 (talk) 16:26, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Video —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.32.40.115 (talk) 19:53, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Albanian locals stops the Council of Europe —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.32.35.134 (talk) 16:21, 12 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tagging

As most sources are from B92 I have added the pov tag.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 13:14, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Check again, "most source" are not from B92, which is anyway a reliable news-site. Not all Serbian sources are POV, you know. Athenean (talk) 17:16, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Apart from b92, The Huffington Post, which is a pov blog is cited many times.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 21:53, 17 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ha, ha, there is 17 sources, and you tagged it? By which argument you think that contemporary source is not neutral? Anyway, B92 was accepted at WP:RS as good, and reliable. So, please, remove your tag. --Tadijaspeaks 17:17, 18 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Please read this thread [1] again to refresh your memory. B92 is a fine source, not all Serbian sources are POV, you know. Athenean (talk) 22:18, 18 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

B92 and all the other Serbian so-called reliable sources

Copying from BBC End of the road for Kosovo organ claims? Even the Serbian authorities, who have propagated the tale of the yellow house most consistently, have their doubts today.

"I still believe something happened there," said a Belgrade source, close to the war crimes court, "but nothing on the scale of what has been suggested... and possibly not even connected to the KLA".

But constant revelations in the Serbian press that new evidence, or new witnesses have emerged for the organ-trafficking allegations, have all proven either false, or unsubstantiated...Even the Serbian authorities, who have propagated the tale of the yellow house most consistently, have their doubts today.

"I still believe something happened there," said a Belgrade source, close to the war crimes court, "but nothing on the scale of what has been suggested... and possibly not even connected to the KLA".

Not that I would call it a source, but these things are also mentioned in the writings of that no-good apologist for New World Order Carla Del Ponte. Definitely not a Serbian newspaper. Evlekis (Евлекис) 19:41, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Remove this article: investigation proves allegations to be false

The article at

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/10166800.stm
 End of the road for Kosovo organ claims?
 By Nick Thorpe BBC News, Pristina, Belgrade and Tirana 

puts an end to these allegations. I am not sure how could such an article with no evidence got in wikipedia in the first place. None of the references mentioned in the article give a name of an existing live person who's organs were stolen.

Please remove this article. It is in the best interest of Albanians Serbs.

Agroni (talk) 04:01, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That article is two months older than the latest one.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 09:10, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It's a continuing situation, timescale is not important. 99.236.221.124 (talk) 03:41, 16 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

vetevendosje statement

http://www.vetevendosje.org/?cid=1,2,2627&author=0 Translation

Swiss Rapporteur of the Assembly of the Council of Europe, Dick Marty presented his report on claims that members of the KLA paskan paskan trafficked abused people and human organs. These claims are disclosed in the wake of allegations and përbaltjeve raised by the former chief of the Court at The Hague, Carla del Ponte. Among those who apostrofohen as protagonists of such inhumane actions and connected to organized crime referred to the former Prime Minister of Kosovo, Hashim Thaci.

VETËVENDOSJE! considers that the claim to the KLA spotted, this time by Hashim Thaci, is the trend of embarrassing and unacceptable, designed to degrade in the low activity of the criminal war of liberation of the people of Kosovo. KLA who can not tarnish by Hashim Thaci, or any individual. Despite the fact that certain persons may have misused the noble war of liberation with the purpose cleaner for personal gain, it can not interfere with the efforts of our people for freedom, a noble effort to emerge from the shackles of violence to escape repression and ethnic cleansing.

KLA summarizing the history of war and sacrifice for the liberation of the Albanians, 2.500 martyrs of the war, families of martyrs, war veterans and invalids. Anyone who may have misused the KLA, not to hide behind the KLA.

On the other hand, if the EC and the EU suspect Hashim Thaci, let's not use it only to spotted KLA. And instead treat it as their main strategic partner in maintaining stability at the expense of the people of Kosovo, let them decide to justice. We druhemi that these claims are not Council of Europe in view of justice, but more towards increasing the pressure on Hashim Thaci to new negotiations and concessions to Serbia for its entry as to accelerate the EU. The people of Kosovo does not have to pay the price of the machinations of regional stability through political figures linked to organized crime Balkans. Even raids EULEX in ministries and luxury homes of politicians, never followed the law, but political pressure in exchange for obedience.

All of these charges, which are only remaining charges are being made only now, before negotiations with Serbia. Boris Tadic said he would confer with Thaci until charges are proven CEO. Everything is showing that Tadic is Hashim Thaci turn love.


Pristina, 16 December 2010

VETËVENDOSJE!

Hope this helps. Mike James Michael DuPont (talk) 11:38, 17 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, it doesn't. Vetevendosje is an ultranationalist organization. Your additions to the article are also extremely POV and unacceptable. I will replace them with material from the Guardian, a reliable source. Athenean (talk) 17:57, 17 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
All views should be presented although it does not mean we can include what everyone has said. In this case and news relating to Kosovo Guardian has a leftist bias against Kosovo. --NOAH (talk) 19:41, 17 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

NPOV

Right now the article contains a lot of propaganda and allegations presented as facts. It must be rewritten to comply with NPOV rules of Wikipedia. --NOAH (talk) 19:38, 17 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]